• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:51
CEST 20:51
KST 03:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double1Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon105
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Bot on ladder [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7834 users

[GSL] Blizzard Cup Grand Finals - Page 262

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 260 261 262 263 264 495 Next
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5221
This is why MMA is by far my favorite SC2 player. Such a baller. :D
kslghost
Profile Joined June 2011
246 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5222
He also thinks those medivacs are empty so why bother, they look like they are just there to slow down the army
aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5223
if DRG makes more mistakes than MMA on a regular basis, is he really the better player? i wonder...
Bogus ST_Life IMMVP
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5224
On December 17 2011 19:49 GreyKnight wrote:
im wondering if MC was here instead of DRG would this be as one sided...


Final is supposed to be one-sided you know.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5225
On December 17 2011 19:52 Superouman wrote:
What the f at tastosis with bow ties. i couldn't stop laughing xDDD


It was an award ceremony, they dressed up ;D
elbooN
Profile Joined January 2011
United States255 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5226
On December 17 2011 19:51 Whiteman103 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:50 AndAgain wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:49 Whiteman103 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:47 AndAgain wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:46 Resolve wrote:
wtf? why mutalisks no kill free siege tanks in medivacs?


I don't get this either...


the reason is he messed up duh BUT theres a good reason for it you DONT a move mutas when theres 3-4 thors so they just flew over the medivacs


The thors were no where near the medivacs.


yes but DRG doesnt know that


the medivacs were literally right on top of his army, he could easily see the thors weren't in range.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5227
On December 17 2011 19:51 SpecFire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:49 Pratoss wrote:
can't seem to understand whether the majority of TL are MMA fanboys or just blind to DRG's bad play ;/

2 winnable games botched by DRG

so sad to watch


IT WASNT BAD PLAY

seriously if u have TONS of marines getting rushed by banes and ling, u use ur mutas to accompy them. they were ON THEIR WAY to the marines. WOULD U GO FOR TONS OF MARINES which would WIN YOU THE GAME or kill TWO RANDOM MEDIVACS which COULD BE EMPTY?!

it was SUCH GOOD MMA control stop blaming "fanboyism and "bad play" and just FUCKING APPRECIATE THE MATCH

If you are guardian your broodlords from the said marines you know the marines will have to come back to you to fight...so why rush of towards a PF? take out medievacs MMA cant replace because he is probably cranking out vikings and the marines die from your infestors...

Tasteless's explanation makes sense, he was just so busy microing against the deadliest threat of them all -- the marine -- that he didnt notice until it was too late.
kc
Profile Joined August 2006
Canada212 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5228
its true it was a pretty stupid move, drg mis-microe'd he just got hella lucky
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5229
On December 17 2011 19:50 MrCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:49 Pandain wrote:
Can someone fully explain that to me?
At first I thought MMA was accidently picking up two tanks and sending them to their death(by mutas.)
How did he know the mutas wouldn't kill them?
How exactly was DRG out of position to deal with the tanks anyway?



A-Move won't target medivacs first, DRG would have to manually target them if there are other battle units near by.
DRG was too busy managing the front of his army.

A move targets the closest units. Medivacs were in front of the army, therefore an a-move would have attacked them
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
my0s
Profile Joined March 2010
United States193 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5230
Artosis: It looks like the clock is about to strike midnight on this Cinderella story, turning DRGs dream into the proverbial pumpkin.

Tasteless: I sure do like pumpkins, Cotton.
spatz
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany153 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5231
u ve to admit that mmas marine split micro is just amazing.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5232
Lets be honest, that was a desperate move but it was brilliant. What top level gamer would do such a thing as go "kamikaze" with medivacs..I think drg thought they were empty so bothered not to waste time on them..still..a terrible decision on drg part
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5233
On December 17 2011 19:52 p0rkguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:48 Original exxo wrote:
If he tried to target the medivacs the mutas would clump and the thors would wreck them


You clearly didn't watch that battle closely.
The fully loaded medivacs ran into DRG's army and the medivac was basically "magic boxed". Mutas don't clump up when their target is within them.

also where the medivacs were were not within thor range, so they were on their own.
Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5234
for people saying he should have targeted down the medivacs, their armies were already fighting and the medivacs were just flying off. in drgs mind those are already dead and he can just kill them later. he probably thought it was better to use the mutas to attack actual attacking units instead of medivacs too far away to heal anything. i doubt he was worried about anything substantial coming out of those medivacs that would actually turn the tide of the fight
Team LiquidPoorUser
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5235
what happened was DRG underestimated him. the reason we are freaking out is the same reason why DRG didn't focus them really quick, that was a impossible to live from situation for the terran. the whole army on retreat, no counter to any of his tech (ghost/viking), and he was nearly completely cornered.

in a last ditch effort, MMA filled two medivacs with siege tanks and dropped them behind onto infesters to be met up with rallied marines from his main. DRG might've thought that was a move to buy time, or a distraction, regardless, it was brilliant and a last ditch effort in that moment to turn around a loss, as losing his whole army with the zerg right outside his base is pretty much GG.
CarlosOmse
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany507 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5236
On December 17 2011 19:51 DystopiaX wrote:

nah, MMA won cause DRG miscontrolled that. Jjakji vs leenock was epic cause neither player fucked up enough to lose, the winner played well to win instead.



jep DRG attacked into the thors with his mutas instead of saving his infestors
a book is like a mirror if a monkey looks into it no philosopher will look back
p0rkguy
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 10:53:35
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5237
On December 17 2011 19:51 Bergys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:49 Pandain wrote:
Can someone fully explain that to me?
At first I thought MMA was accidently picking up two tanks and sending them to their death(by mutas.)
How did he know the mutas wouldn't kill them?
How exactly was DRG out of position to deal with the tanks anyway?



Usually you try to magic box mutas vs thors, if you just a-move they stack and get one-shotted. MMA probably anticipated that/took the risk since tanks are pretty much useless unsieged vs brood lords.

The problem with your "theory" is that the medivac flew into the flock of mutas, not by them. Meaning those medivacs were already magic box'd.
Unreliablex
Profile Joined October 2011
141 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5238
On December 17 2011 19:50 Keltanokka wrote:
sigh, had DRG had his mutas on a-move, the tank-drop micro would have never happened and the game would be completely diffrent.


Yeah, lets a move mutas vs marines / thors.

no, lets not.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5239
lol @ everyone spending minutes to support their argument in that battle, when drg had 1 second to respond to events he's never experienced before.
Corvette
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States433 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5240
oh my godddd
Prev 1 260 261 262 263 264 495 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#65
RotterdaM923
TaKeTV 380
TKL 336
IndyStarCraft 238
BRAT_OK 120
ZombieGrub14
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 923
TKL 336
IndyStarCraft 238
MaxPax 162
BRAT_OK 120
UpATreeSC 91
JuggernautJason38
EmSc Tv 20
Nathanias 17
ZombieGrub14
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 696
ggaemo 180
White-Ra 132
firebathero 107
910 55
Barracks 54
Hyun 37
Trap 28
Killer 27
Bale 23
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 18
soO 15
Shine 14
yabsab 9
Dota 2
qojqva4537
Counter-Strike
Fnx 776
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby7510
crisheroes1815
Liquid`Hasu1598
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi3958
singsing1430
Beastyqt776
ceh9647
B2W.Neo415
C9.Mang0160
shahzam144
ArmadaUGS144
KnowMe110
summit1g83
Trikslyr54
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream448
Other Games
BasetradeTV177
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 20
EmSc2Tv 20
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 138
• Reevou 7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 19
• Azhi_Dahaki14
• FirePhoenix13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2391
• TFBlade921
Other Games
• Shiphtur306
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 9m
Afreeca Starleague
15h 9m
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
1d 5h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 16h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Online Event
4 days
FEL
4 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.