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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5201
On December 17 2011 19:50 EnSky wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:49 SpecFire wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:47 Fragile51 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:46 Rowa wrote:
This is already the best TVZ Finals ever of the history of the game..


Jjakji v Leenock is still better, this is still too onesided.


no, jjajki vs leenock was NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT as good as this

I have to agree. MMA and DRG are just on a different level. Momentum just swings either way but MMA is just showing some very very good decision making and plays.

nah, MMA won cause DRG miscontrolled that. Jjakji vs leenock was epic cause neither player fucked up enough to lose, the winner played well to win instead.
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5202
Just because it was risky dosent make it a bad move. He gambled that DRG would be not looking at his mutas for a split second, maybe larvae injecting or following the front of the army looking for siege blasts, and it worked out really well. You have to take big risks to win big!
Mystgun
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong311 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5203
so hard to snipe the medivacs when you don't know what's inside and there are marines and thors on the front lines to take care of
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5204
On December 17 2011 19:50 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:49 SpecFire wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:47 Fragile51 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:46 Rowa wrote:
This is already the best TVZ Finals ever of the history of the game..


Jjakji v Leenock is still better, this is still too onesided.


no, jjajki vs leenock was NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT as good as this

It was actually way better, higher level play from both leenock and jjakji, just slightly less entertaining.

I thought it was more entertaining. I think the only thing this match has over that one is the story behind it.
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Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5205
On December 17 2011 19:51 Hassybaby wrote:
What's the score? Seeker hasn't updated


+ Show Spoiler +
MMA 2-0
EatCrow
Profile Joined April 2010
Estonia333 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5206
DRG didn't snipe medivacs because of possible thor volleys. It was a brilliant move by MMA, because tanks were no good in that fight anymore because of broodlords.
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5207
On December 17 2011 19:50 AndAgain wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:49 Whiteman103 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:47 AndAgain wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:46 Resolve wrote:
wtf? why mutalisks no kill free siege tanks in medivacs?


I don't get this either...


the reason is he messed up duh BUT theres a good reason for it you DONT a move mutas when theres 3-4 thors so they just flew over the medivacs


The thors were no where near the medivacs.


yes but DRG doesnt know that
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5208
On December 17 2011 19:51 SpecFire wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:49 Pratoss wrote:
can't seem to understand whether the majority of TL are MMA fanboys or just blind to DRG's bad play ;/

2 winnable games botched by DRG

so sad to watch


IT WASNT BAD PLAY

seriously if u have TONS of marines getting rushed by banes and ling, u use ur mutas to accompy them. they were ON THEIR WAY to the marines. WOULD U GO FOR TONS OF MARINES which would WIN YOU THE GAME or kill TWO RANDOM MEDIVACS which COULD BE EMPTY?!

it was SUCH GOOD MMA control stop blaming "fanboyism and "bad play" and just FUCKING APPRECIATE THE MATCH


caps lock broken?
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Exsonic
Profile Joined June 2011
China124 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5209
DRG fight!!! beat MMA!!!
NesTea>DongReaGu≈Losira
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5210
On December 17 2011 19:48 MrCon wrote:
Yeah, and if DRG right click the dropship this "brilliant tactics" fails. It was a missclick, he wanted to load the tanks and bring them elsewhere to save them, not flank and fly 2 medivacs into 20 mutas...it looked cool because DRG derped and forgot to micro and was on move command.
In fact he was on move command for the rest of the battle, terrible ><


Perhaps the tank-drop confused him.

I do agree that it was probably a miss-click from MMA. It certainly looked that way when he flew 2 dropships towards 20 muta
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Bergys
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden337 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5211
On December 17 2011 19:49 Pandain wrote:
Can someone fully explain that to me?
At first I thought MMA was accidently picking up two tanks and sending them to their death(by mutas.)
How did he know the mutas wouldn't kill them?
How exactly was DRG out of position to deal with the tanks anyway?



Usually you try to magic box mutas vs thors, if you just a-move they stack and get one-shotted. MMA probably anticipated that/took the risk since tanks are pretty much useless unsieged vs brood lords.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#5212
On December 17 2011 19:50 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:49 SpecFire wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:47 Fragile51 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:46 Rowa wrote:
This is already the best TVZ Finals ever of the history of the game..


Jjakji v Leenock is still better, this is still too onesided.


no, jjajki vs leenock was NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT as good as this

It was actually way better, higher level play from both leenock and jjakji, just slightly less entertaining.


ITA, though it's just IMHO.
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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5213
What the f at tastosis with bow ties. i couldn't stop laughing xDDD
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5214
2-0 mma favor
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p0rkguy
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5215
On December 17 2011 19:48 Original exxo wrote:
If he tried to target the medivacs the mutas would clump and the thors would wreck them


You clearly didn't watch that battle closely.
The fully loaded medivacs ran into DRG's army and the medivac was basically "magic boxed". Mutas don't clump up when their target is within them.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5216
On December 17 2011 19:50 Krossfire wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:48 mazwoo wrote:
How was that genius? There were 10 mutas doing nothing....it was very very risky and i dont know why drg didnt target that down....


cuz his main target was the marines...if hes cleans them up then MMA is kinda fucked

but he controlled that engagement perfectly and killed everything w/o losing rines

Have you tried fighting 3-3 marines with 1-0 mutas? The mutas are there ONLY to snipe siege tanks and medivacs
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5217
On December 17 2011 19:51 SpecFire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:49 Pratoss wrote:
can't seem to understand whether the majority of TL are MMA fanboys or just blind to DRG's bad play ;/

2 winnable games botched by DRG

so sad to watch


IT WASNT BAD PLAY

seriously if u have TONS of marines getting rushed by banes and ling, u use ur mutas to accompy them. they were ON THEIR WAY to the marines. WOULD U GO FOR TONS OF MARINES which would WIN YOU THE GAME or kill TWO RANDOM MEDIVACS which COULD BE EMPTY?!

it was SUCH GOOD MMA control stop blaming "fanboyism and "bad play" and just FUCKING APPRECIATE THE MATCH

using CAPS makes MY POINTS make MORE SENSE and does a BETTER JOB of CONVINCING YOU I'm RIGHT
Exempt.
Profile Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5218
On December 17 2011 19:51 SC2Phoenix wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:48 Krossfire wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:46 FinestHour wrote:
how the fuck did he not target down those medivacs wtffffffffffffffffffffffffff


doubt he could tell that they had tanks in them...was too busy chasing the marine force.....
Doesn't matter if they had units in them or not, thats how you play zerg. Your muta are suppose to target the medivacs while your lings and banelings engage the army.


nope, actually wrong, mutas target tanks first while banes chase and lings try to hinder marine movement.
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5219
Leenock vs Jjakji was better.

The series itself was class above anything I've ever seen SC2 yet
Chewie
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark708 Posts
December 17 2011 10:52 GMT
#5220
On December 17 2011 19:50 MrCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:49 Pandain wrote:
Can someone fully explain that to me?
At first I thought MMA was accidently picking up two tanks and sending them to their death(by mutas.)
How did he know the mutas wouldn't kill them?
How exactly was DRG out of position to deal with the tanks anyway?



A-Move won't target medivacs first, DRG would have to manually target them if there are other battle units near by.
DRG was too busy managing the front of his army.

Thats it right there. MMA was not going to win that engagement in a straight on fight either. He got creative.
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