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CygnusAres
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore893 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5241
At least we won't see the lame hellions roasting drones which is quite common on foreign TvZ...
"I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul" - Invictus. Favorite Players: TaeJa, Bogus, and Zest, Fighting!
XceL24
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1 Post
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5242
It was so quick, that's why it's brilliant. You can analyze things when it's all over and find little things both players did wrong, but that was just wow.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5243
zvt december must be below 40 % right now, taking into consideration what maps are coming up i see no hope for drg :/
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5244
On December 17 2011 19:52 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
for people saying he should have targeted down the medivacs, their armies were already fighting and the medivacs were just flying off. in drgs mind those are already dead and he can just kill them later. he probably thought it was better to use the mutas to attack actual attacking units instead of medivacs too far away to heal anything. i doubt he was worried about anything substantial coming out of those medivacs that would actually turn the tide of the fight


I might have missed it but I thought he saw the tanks go in there but I just assumed he did I was wrong obviously. Smart by MMA sucks for DRG
When I think of something else, something will go here
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5245
imo i thought mma did that risky move but it wasn't as "fail" as some people think.
unsieged tanks were quite useless in that scenario, even if both medivacs were taken out.. i dont think drg could have won the game on the spot either
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5246
I really really hope this goes to a 7th game but at the same time I want MMA to confirm his dominance in sc2 over everyone
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5247
SPAIN eps finals happening at the same time, if anyone feels to watch it during the downtime, (sadly spanish casters.)
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5248
On December 17 2011 19:52 kslghost wrote:
He also thinks those medivacs are empty so why bother, they look like they are just there to slow down the army

It takes like 2 seconds to kill 2 medivacs with that number of mutas. It wasn't like he had to seperate them from his infestor/broodlord army to snipe them as well.
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DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 10:54:15
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5249
The only thing i can think of is that DRG thought MMA was sacking his medivacs for some extra seconds to get back to the PF, so he moved his mutas forward to chase down the marines.


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Pratoss
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada201 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5250
On December 17 2011 19:51 SpecFire wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:49 Pratoss wrote:
can't seem to understand whether the majority of TL are MMA fanboys or just blind to DRG's bad play ;/

2 winnable games botched by DRG

so sad to watch


IT WASNT BAD PLAY

seriously if u have TONS of marines getting rushed by banes and ling, u use ur mutas to accompy them. they were ON THEIR WAY to the marines. WOULD U GO FOR TONS OF MARINES which would WIN YOU THE GAME or kill TWO RANDOM MEDIVACS which COULD BE EMPTY?!

it was SUCH GOOD MMA control stop blaming "fanboyism and "bad play" and just FUCKING APPRECIATE THE MATCH

1) calm down caps just proves your fanboyism really

2) it's not like he couldn't have sniped the medivacs and then continued with the attack
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5251
On December 17 2011 19:49 Fionn wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:49 SpecFire wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:47 Fragile51 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:46 Rowa wrote:
This is already the best TVZ Finals ever of the history of the game..


Jjakji v Leenock is still better, this is still too onesided.


no, jjajki vs leenock was NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT as good as this


Jjakji/Leenock was better.

DRG's decision making/nerves are subpar this series.


Jjakji / Leenock seems much higher level so far.

... at least in terms of leenocks play compared to Drgs.

MMA is at least closer to Jajkji, but it might be that Drg isn't a good enough opponent for MMA to show off his skill properly.
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kslghost
Profile Joined June 2011
246 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5252
If the medivacs are empty and he tries to snipe them and the mutas gets owned by thors, everyone here complains that DRG should have left those medivacs alone. Standard observer mentality that you can only lose games by not playing omnipotently.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5253
On December 17 2011 19:53 MasterKang wrote:
I really really hope this goes to a 7th game but at the same time I want MMA to confirm his dominance in sc2 over everyone

except polt
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thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 10:54:05
December 17 2011 10:53 GMT
#5254
Next time I'm losing a fight in TvZ I'm going to load up my tanks into some medivacs and find the nearest muta flock to fly them into.
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5255
On December 17 2011 19:52 elbooN wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:51 Whiteman103 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:50 AndAgain wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:49 Whiteman103 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:47 AndAgain wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:46 Resolve wrote:
wtf? why mutalisks no kill free siege tanks in medivacs?


I don't get this either...


the reason is he messed up duh BUT theres a good reason for it you DONT a move mutas when theres 3-4 thors so they just flew over the medivacs


The thors were no where near the medivacs.


yes but DRG doesnt know that


the medivacs were literally right on top of his army, he could easily see the thors weren't in range.


could be barly outside of range. all i was saying is you dont a move mutas........ he should have just press hold/stop to kill real fast but he messed up. still was a nice move by MMA though
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5256
On December 17 2011 19:51 SpecFire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:49 Pratoss wrote:
can't seem to understand whether the majority of TL are MMA fanboys or just blind to DRG's bad play ;/

2 winnable games botched by DRG

so sad to watch


IT WASNT BAD PLAY

seriously if u have TONS of marines getting rushed by banes and ling, u use ur mutas to accompy them. they were ON THEIR WAY to the marines. WOULD U GO FOR TONS OF MARINES which would WIN YOU THE GAME or kill TWO RANDOM MEDIVACS which COULD BE EMPTY?!

it was SUCH GOOD MMA control stop blaming "fanboyism and "bad play" and just FUCKING APPRECIATE THE MATCH


so do you think attacking into a planetary with thors and a ton of marines with just ling/bling/muta was a good decision.. leaving his broodlords and infestor exposed?? not just to those medivacs but to any reinforcements from the natural of mma??
Xeteh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States589 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5257
The difference between a great move and a stupid one is whether or not it works, I don't see why people are so confused.

Anyways, I had no idea TL had so many future GSL champions that refuse to give MMA credit for his play.
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5258
Honestly MMA had retreated so far that DRG's got to be feeling uncomfortable with his army there. It's probably one of those things where a top player has a gut feeling that it'd work somehow.
aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5259
On December 17 2011 19:53 CygnusAres wrote:
At least we won't see the lame hellions roasting drones which is quite common on foreign TvZ...

LOL thank you thorzain...-.-
and all the other european terrans out there xD
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Mithridates
Profile Joined June 2011
United States446 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5260
On December 17 2011 19:52 pdd wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:50 MrCash wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:49 Pandain wrote:
Can someone fully explain that to me?
At first I thought MMA was accidently picking up two tanks and sending them to their death(by mutas.)
How did he know the mutas wouldn't kill them?
How exactly was DRG out of position to deal with the tanks anyway?



A-Move won't target medivacs first, DRG would have to manually target them if there are other battle units near by.
DRG was too busy managing the front of his army.

A move targets the closest units. Medivacs were in front of the army, therefore an a-move would have attacked them


No, Attacking units have priority and the medivacs werent attacking. Example: hold position micro with workers
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