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MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5261
On December 17 2011 19:50 synapse wrote:
Really bad micro from DRG

Ugh... please dont 4-0 >_>

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On December 17 2011 19:50 MrCash wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:49 Pandain wrote:
Can someone fully explain that to me?
At first I thought MMA was accidently picking up two tanks and sending them to their death(by mutas.)
How did he know the mutas wouldn't kill them?
How exactly was DRG out of position to deal with the tanks anyway?



A-Move won't target medivacs first, DRG would have to manually target them if there are other battle units near by.
DRG was too busy managing the front of his army.

A-move on his mutas would have attacked the medivacs since the marines weren't in range. But you can't a-move mutas because then they'll stack and the thors will kill you....


Thanks for the input, I don't play zerg so I was making some assumptions.
So to pull that off you really have to have to keep your thors and marines together to make the zerg be more careful.
mlevar
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia266 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5262
What the hell was that commercial? With the woman bathing lol
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 10:54:52
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5263
On December 17 2011 19:50 silverstyle wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:48 Kyhol wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:47 BlueyD wrote:
I DO NOT understand why DRG did not use the mutas to take down the medivacs.

Because he wanted to chase the section of all the army with his units. It was a good time. The tank load up was out of his vision.
Very high level tactic by MMA.


That and if he were to right click on the medvac if MMA were to target the clump with his thors, it would have been GG as well.

EXTREMELY great on the fly decision making by MMA, very very sick.


That's what I call blind fanboyism. DRG was allining in the last battle, and even if he won that battle he would lose anyway. MMA just needs 20 marines to clean up everything since banelings and infestors would be out of equation. I still think terran is OP btw. DRG didn't do anything wrong but he still lost by quite margin. It wasnt even close.

User was temp banned for this post.
Its grack
Trsjnica
Profile Joined April 2011
United States477 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 10:54:47
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5264
This is the sixth consecutive GSL tournament won by a Terran. (This is over.)
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5265
On December 17 2011 19:52 Exempt. wrote:
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On December 17 2011 19:51 SC2Phoenix wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:48 Krossfire wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:46 FinestHour wrote:
how the fuck did he not target down those medivacs wtffffffffffffffffffffffffff


doubt he could tell that they had tanks in them...was too busy chasing the marine force.....
Doesn't matter if they had units in them or not, thats how you play zerg. Your muta are suppose to target the medivacs while your lings and banelings engage the army.


nope, actually wrong, mutas target tanks first while banes chase and lings try to hinder marine movement.
Ya because you shirft click your mutas on the retreating unsiege tanks right lol?
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5266
They game took a rly bad turn for drg when he lost his fourth expansion. My guess is that drg misjudged the size of the army mma used to kill that hatch. He could have destroyed that army consisting of a few marines, a thor and couple of siege.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5267
On December 17 2011 19:47 KMARTRULES2 wrote:
Stop freaking out. It was NOT a good move.

The tanks were so vulnerable in the medivac, the only reason this worked was because DRG failed his control.


Considering he went from near death with absolutely nothing to deal with the Broodlords to winning the game 10 seconds later, I'd say that was ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT.

Haters gonna hate I suppose.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5268
I don't know why people DON"T think it was a good move. Yes if was risky, BUT if you think about it, he was going to lose all of those tanks/medivacs anyways to the broodlords, so he might as well take a risk and hope that DRG didnt notice or couldn't micro, and it definitely paid off
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5269
On December 17 2011 19:52 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
for people saying he should have targeted down the medivacs, their armies were already fighting and the medivacs were just flying off. in drgs mind those are already dead and he can just kill them later. he probably thought it was better to use the mutas to attack actual attacking units instead of medivacs too far away to heal anything. i doubt he was worried about anything substantial coming out of those medivacs that would actually turn the tide of the fight


ty!

cant wait for next game
•|SlayerS_MMA| • Ryung • Fin • Puzzle •
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12947 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5270
On December 17 2011 19:51 ElephantBaby wrote:
That engagement is more mistakes from DRG than genius from MMA.

DRG mistakes:
1. Not targeting Medivacs with muta, they just flew by with mutas in very close distance.
2. Army split into two parts, one part even attacking the fortress.


It was genius because DRG was fucked had he targetted the medivacs with muta (which was fucking hard to do anyways, so if you don't have Stephano's micro...) because of the thors, and fucked anyways with the drop.
I don't know if they thought about a situation like that or if it was on the fly decision making, but it was awesome.
When MMA is on fire he is really really good in TvZ that's scary
WriterMaru
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5271
On December 17 2011 19:53 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:52 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
for people saying he should have targeted down the medivacs, their armies were already fighting and the medivacs were just flying off. in drgs mind those are already dead and he can just kill them later. he probably thought it was better to use the mutas to attack actual attacking units instead of medivacs too far away to heal anything. i doubt he was worried about anything substantial coming out of those medivacs that would actually turn the tide of the fight


I might have missed it but I thought he saw the tanks go in there but I just assumed he did I was wrong obviously. Smart by MMA sucks for DRG

Well it was in his vision
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ubikuuu!
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 10:55:10
December 17 2011 10:54 GMT
#5272
GOM really really need to fill this pauses with something man...
"…I guess you can't live very long without arousing hostility; you can't please everybody, because people want different things. Please one and you displease another."
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
December 17 2011 10:55 GMT
#5273
On December 17 2011 19:52 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
for people saying he should have targeted down the medivacs, their armies were already fighting and the medivacs were just flying off. in drgs mind those are already dead and he can just kill them later. he probably thought it was better to use the mutas to attack actual attacking units instead of medivacs too far away to heal anything. i doubt he was worried about anything substantial coming out of those medivacs that would actually turn the tide of the fight


The armies weren't already fighting. The thors and marines were still running away and out of range of DRGs army. It would've taken half a second to a-move and kill those medivacs.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
December 17 2011 10:55 GMT
#5274
MMA, what else ?
The risky move was his only chance to win the battle, it was well executed taking advantage of DRG focus being elsewhere, you don't only play a race, you play an opponent as well. Touch of genius in the move
Shadow and dust
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
December 17 2011 10:55 GMT
#5275
On December 17 2011 19:53 akalarry wrote:
lol @ everyone spending minutes to support their argument in that battle, when drg had 1 second to respond to events he's never experienced before.


lol @ people claiming they know what someone halfway around the world who does this for a living has experienced.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
Troublesome
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom522 Posts
December 17 2011 10:55 GMT
#5276
On December 17 2011 19:54 bokeevboke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:50 silverstyle wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:48 Kyhol wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:47 BlueyD wrote:
I DO NOT understand why DRG did not use the mutas to take down the medivacs.

Because he wanted to chase the section of all the army with his units. It was a good time. The tank load up was out of his vision.
Very high level tactic by MMA.


That and if he were to right click on the medvac if MMA were to target the clump with his thors, it would have been GG as well.

EXTREMELY great on the fly decision making by MMA, very very sick.


That's what I call blind fanboyism. DRG was allining in the last battle, and even if he won that battle he would lose anyway. MMA just needs 20 marines to clean up everything since banelings and infestors would be out of equation. I still think terran is OP btw. DRG didn't do anything wrong but he still lost by quite margin. It wasnt even close.

How ironic.
Roll with the punches.
deathzz
Profile Joined September 2011
669 Posts
December 17 2011 10:55 GMT
#5277
On December 17 2011 19:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:53 MasterKang wrote:
I really really hope this goes to a 7th game but at the same time I want MMA to confirm his dominance in sc2 over everyone

except polt

it's so fun when mvp>polt>mma>mvp
Korean overlords
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
December 17 2011 10:55 GMT
#5278
On December 17 2011 19:53 akalarry wrote:
lol @ everyone spending minutes to support their argument in that battle, when drg had 1 second to respond to events he's never experienced before.


That's just like NBA finals last second. People will spend the entire summer talking about that last shot. It is supposed to be like this.
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
December 17 2011 10:55 GMT
#5279
Don't forget we saw on the screen the medivac full with 2 white bars above, but DRG couldn't see that, so maybe was he thinking the medivacs were empty and that it was better to attack the rest of the army
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 10:56:12
December 17 2011 10:55 GMT
#5280
Mutas were not on amove, they were either on move or right clicked on the broodlords on follow. On amove they would have shooted the medivacs as the were the only in range target. (in fact the only target at all)
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