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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 17 2011 10:30 GMT
#4661
ruh roh!

Blizzard should implement ads in those drop boxes lol.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
December 17 2011 10:30 GMT
#4662
On December 17 2011 19:29 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:27 Serpico wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:25 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:24 Disastorm wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:23 Fionn wrote:
Also MMA was never behind. DRG lost his entire army. He didn't kill the Starport. He had nothing to counter banshees.

MMA was miles behind, drg could haev easily had spores in time which would have countered the banshees along with his queens.

Not with 3 OCs.

agreed. triple mules and 3 scvs produced at the same time with a tech advantage? He wasnt miles behind. He was behind, but not miles

No he was dead if DRG had spores up.


no. 3 cloaked banshees can still do a lot even if drg had spores in time. first zerg must spend money/drones to make spores. second complete map control until mutas are out, and mma would most definitely be picking things off with 3 banshees. he had an insane tech advantage, along with 3 orbitals which gives around 12 scvs of income.

He had already lost 22 SCVs, you arent guaranteed to kill anything with spores up and 4 queens unless you want to sac 3 banshees for like 7 drones and be behind because he can drone behind it after having made spores anyways,
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
December 17 2011 10:31 GMT
#4663
On December 17 2011 19:29 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:27 Serpico wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:25 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:24 Disastorm wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:23 Fionn wrote:
Also MMA was never behind. DRG lost his entire army. He didn't kill the Starport. He had nothing to counter banshees.

MMA was miles behind, drg could haev easily had spores in time which would have countered the banshees along with his queens.

Not with 3 OCs.

agreed. triple mules and 3 scvs produced at the same time with a tech advantage? He wasnt miles behind. He was behind, but not miles

No he was dead if DRG had spores up.


no. 3 cloaked banshees can still do a lot even if drg had spores in time. first zerg must spend money/drones to make spores. second complete map control until mutas are out, and mma would most definitely be picking things off with 3 banshees. he had an insane tech advantage, along with 3 orbitals which gives around 12 scvs of income.


He had 4 queens. All he needed was one spore at each base and he won with ease, his spire was on the way.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
December 17 2011 10:31 GMT
#4664
Yeah, bronze leaguers will be super safe with MMA's playstyle, hehe.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 17 2011 10:31 GMT
#4665
On December 17 2011 19:29 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:27 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:25 Sub40APM wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:23 TheDwf wrote:
You can smell SlayerS preparation in this game. This reactor hellion with cloaked banshees to cover double expand was designed in such a way that it would not die to this kind of roach/bane/ling push. Wp.

? It would have died if DRG put up 1 spore for visions. Even with 3 CCs worth of mules he wouldnt have crawled back...

3 MULEs = 13 SCVs.
DRG had to cut drones to attack.
DRG should have built many spores to hold Banshee follow-up.
So, no, MMA was not dead at all, even after losing 22 SCVs.


MMA was ridiculous dead. Once mutas come out he would have fallen apart. You can't afford mistle turrets when you have 16 SCVs and only one rax up.

People need to GTFO with the terran hate and get out of silver league before making ridiculous statements.


On what tech should DRG get Muta's you don't pop 20 muta's instant on 2 base without the buildings.
Stop talking nonsense MMA had 3 orbits and even if DRG defended against the Banshee's he could not take a 3th that easy atleast not before MMA could.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 17 2011 10:31 GMT
#4666
On December 17 2011 19:27 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:26 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Tal'Darim Altar

In the bottom left is DRG

While in the bottom right is MMA

2:10


Expansion first for DRG

2:20


Expansion first for MMA

2:50


Gas for MMA

Pool for DRG

3:30


Barracks for MMA

Gas for DRG

4:00


Two queens for DRG

Factory for MMA

5:10


Ling speed for DRG

Two barracks and a reactor for MMA


6:00


Spine and macro hatch for DRG

Stim for MMA


7:00


More gas for DRG

Starport on the way for MMA
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
December 17 2011 10:31 GMT
#4667
now it is just a question of which 2 base timing push he is gonna do
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
December 17 2011 10:31 GMT
#4668
1 Factory 4 rax ready for MMA.
DRG already walled off and negated any kind of hellion harass.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
December 17 2011 10:31 GMT
#4669
Hmm DRG didn't do anything to punish CC first or take advantage of it?
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
December 17 2011 10:32 GMT
#4670
On December 17 2011 19:29 Olsson wrote:
Do I have to buy some tickets to watch the blizzard cup stream? Im registered n all.

Nope, it's free. There's a twitch stream as well if the GOM Player doesn't work for you.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
December 17 2011 10:32 GMT
#4671
On December 17 2011 19:29 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:27 Serpico wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:25 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:24 Disastorm wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:23 Fionn wrote:
Also MMA was never behind. DRG lost his entire army. He didn't kill the Starport. He had nothing to counter banshees.

MMA was miles behind, drg could haev easily had spores in time which would have countered the banshees along with his queens.

Not with 3 OCs.

agreed. triple mules and 3 scvs produced at the same time with a tech advantage? He wasnt miles behind. He was behind, but not miles

No he was dead if DRG had spores up.


no. 3 cloaked banshees can still do a lot even if drg had spores in time. first zerg must spend money/drones to make spores. second complete map control until mutas are out, and mma would most definitely be picking things off with 3 banshees. he had an insane tech advantage, along with 3 orbitals which gives around 12 scvs of income.

He was dead. On that map, if you're behind in TvZ you will never be able to secure your third and a player with as solid of macro as DRG would not allow MMA to get back into the game. Also, DRG's classic Mutaling style is perfect for that map. MMA would have lost that game had DRG had Spores up.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
December 17 2011 10:32 GMT
#4672
On December 17 2011 19:30 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:29 akalarry wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:27 Serpico wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:25 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:24 Disastorm wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:23 Fionn wrote:
Also MMA was never behind. DRG lost his entire army. He didn't kill the Starport. He had nothing to counter banshees.

MMA was miles behind, drg could haev easily had spores in time which would have countered the banshees along with his queens.

Not with 3 OCs.

agreed. triple mules and 3 scvs produced at the same time with a tech advantage? He wasnt miles behind. He was behind, but not miles

No he was dead if DRG had spores up.


no. 3 cloaked banshees can still do a lot even if drg had spores in time. first zerg must spend money/drones to make spores. second complete map control until mutas are out, and mma would most definitely be picking things off with 3 banshees. he had an insane tech advantage, along with 3 orbitals which gives around 12 scvs of income.

He had already lost 22 SCVs, you arent guaranteed to kill anything with spores up and 4 queens unless you want to sac 3 banshees for like 7 drones and be behind because he can drone behind it after having made spores anyways,


And did he really have a tech advantage? The tech he needs is stim+combat shields and seige mode and maybe blue flame. I think MMA had stim on the way, but dont think he had the rest.

Anyway back to the current game.
Unreliablex
Profile Joined October 2011
141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 10:32:59
December 17 2011 10:32 GMT
#4673
On December 17 2011 19:31 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:29 akalarry wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:27 Serpico wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:25 TheDwf wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:24 Disastorm wrote:
On December 17 2011 19:23 Fionn wrote:
Also MMA was never behind. DRG lost his entire army. He didn't kill the Starport. He had nothing to counter banshees.

MMA was miles behind, drg could haev easily had spores in time which would have countered the banshees along with his queens.

Not with 3 OCs.

agreed. triple mules and 3 scvs produced at the same time with a tech advantage? He wasnt miles behind. He was behind, but not miles

No he was dead if DRG had spores up.


no. 3 cloaked banshees can still do a lot even if drg had spores in time. first zerg must spend money/drones to make spores. second complete map control until mutas are out, and mma would most definitely be picking things off with 3 banshees. he had an insane tech advantage, along with 3 orbitals which gives around 12 scvs of income.


He had 4 queens. All he needed was one spore at each base and he won with ease, his spire was on the way.


no. Tasteless misspoke.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 17 2011 10:32 GMT
#4674
On December 17 2011 19:27 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:26 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Tal'Darim Altar

In the bottom left is DRG

While in the bottom right is MMA

2:10


Expansion first for DRG

2:20


Expansion first for MMA

2:50


Gas for MMA

Pool for DRG

3:30


Barracks for MMA

Gas for DRG

4:00


Two queens for DRG

Factory for MMA

5:10


Ling speed for DRG

Two barracks and a reactor for MMA

6:00


Spine and macro hatch for DRG

Stim for MMA


7:00


More gas for DRG

Starport on the way for MMA


8:10


MMA killing creep tumours

Lair melee +1 and baneling nest for DRG

Siege tech and a ebay for MMA
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
December 17 2011 10:33 GMT
#4675
Stim done for MMA, Medivac and tanks on the way.
Lair done for DRG and +1 melee attack almost done.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 17 2011 10:33 GMT
#4676
mighty push coming for mma
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 17 2011 10:33 GMT
#4677
On December 17 2011 19:27 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:26 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Tal'Darim Altar

In the bottom left is DRG

While in the bottom right is MMA

2:10


Expansion first for DRG

2:20


Expansion first for MMA

2:50


Gas for MMA

Pool for DRG

3:30


Barracks for MMA

Gas for DRG

4:00


Two queens for DRG

Factory for MMA

5:10


Ling speed for DRG

Two barracks and a reactor for MMA

6:00


Spine and macro hatch for DRG

Stim for MMA

7:00


More gas for DRG

Starport on the way for MMA


8:10


MMA killing creep tumours

Lair melee +1 and baneling nest for DRG

Siege tech and a ebay for MMA


9:00


Baneling speed and spire on the way for DRG

MMA is dropping killing overlords and a few lings
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 17 2011 10:33 GMT
#4678
MMA's macro is insane, that supply.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 17 2011 10:34 GMT
#4679
On December 17 2011 19:27 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 19:26 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Tal'Darim Altar

In the bottom left is DRG

While in the bottom right is MMA

2:10


Expansion first for DRG

2:20


Expansion first for MMA

2:50


Gas for MMA

Pool for DRG

3:30


Barracks for MMA

Gas for DRG

4:00


Two queens for DRG

Factory for MMA

5:10


Ling speed for DRG

Two barracks and a reactor for MMA

6:00


Spine and macro hatch for DRG

Stim for MMA

7:00


More gas for DRG

Starport on the way for MMA

8:10


MMA killing creep tumours

Lair melee +1 and baneling nest for DRG

Siege tech and a ebay for MMA


9:00


Baneling speed and spire on the way for DRG

MMA is dropping killing overlords and a few lings


10:20


Push from MMA positioning himself in the sweet spot

+1 on the way for MMA
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
December 17 2011 10:34 GMT
#4680
Wow DRG is so dead. I sometimes do this push with just marines and tanks at around 9 mins. Because of the CC first it's at 10 mins with medivacs and stim+combat shields.
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