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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#721
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Game one on Calm Before the Storm

In the top left is Supernova

While in the top right is Gumiho

1:30

Gas for supernova followed by a barracks

4:30

Expansion on the way for bothj players

Supernova is going banshees

5:40

Second expansion on the way for supernova

Ebay on the way for gumioh

6:30

Lots of turrets on the way for Gumioh

Factory for Gumioh as well as the banshee starts harassing

Blue flame on the way for Supernova

7:30

BFH drop inc for supernova

9:00

Hellions trap the scvs killing 10 scvs before going down

Supernova is going mech

10:30

Another BFH drop kills seven scvs before both hellions die


12:00

Lots of vikings out for gumioh but the drops are still doing a lot of damage


13:00

Turret range upgrade thingy on the way for supernova while making his fourth base
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
December 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#722
On December 07 2011 18:53 Reaper9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:52 Seeker wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:51 Drazerk wrote:
3-3-3 OP


..... don't make me report u.....


It'd be like one of those wild west showdowns, simultaneously everyone points their report button at each other ;P.


LOL!

A traditional western showdown....... DRAW!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
December 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#723
On December 07 2011 18:47 dapierow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:45 n0ise wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:41 dapierow wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:40 Bayyne wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:38 tztztz wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 Bayyne wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 Ezkaton wrote:
What in the actual fuck just happened in those 2 games? I'm a huk fan but i gotta say well played by keen just punishing a greedy opening and doing what he had to do.


Build order loss, plain and simple.


no, it was not a build order loss


Taken from Liquipedia:

Build Order Win or Build Order Loss:
When a player wins or loses not from skill or strategy but from a build order which hard counters the opponent's build order.

Do I really need to explain what keen did in those two games to hard counter Huk's opening? Are you really going to argue this? lolol


so what your saying is that, huk could have gone 3 nexus before gateway and it would still be considered a build order loss? where do you draw the line between build order and playing greedy?


But THAT'S WHAT BO LOSS MEANS. Playing greedy blindly. R O F L hahahahahaahhaha

Anyway. Instead of trying to scout he decided to go for the metagame counter, with 15 nexus, 2 gas and fast robo. He got lol'd on. HuK would've been more than fine with 3 gates and constant chrono on cybercore. Such is life.


No it doesn't, and your second sentence is retarded, metagame counter? wow...


I think he was joking about bo loss but yeah, the second sentence...after I read "instead of trying to scout" after Huk clearly scouted i knew whatever was going to follow was probably going to be wrong
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 07 2011 09:54 GMT
#724
Gumiho doing the anti-hellion wall in at his front nat =)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 07 2011 09:54 GMT
#725
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Game one on Calm Before the Storm

In the top left is Supernova

While in the top right is Gumiho

1:30

Gas for supernova followed by a barracks

4:30

Expansion on the way for bothj players

Supernova is going banshees

5:40

Second expansion on the way for supernova

Ebay on the way for gumioh

6:30

Lots of turrets on the way for Gumioh

Factory for Gumioh as well as the banshee starts harassing

Blue flame on the way for Supernova

7:30

BFH drop inc for supernova

9:00

Hellions trap the scvs killing 10 scvs before going down

Supernova is going mech

10:30

Another BFH drop kills seven scvs before both hellions die

12:00

Lots of vikings out for gumioh but the drops are still doing a lot of damage


13:00

Turret range upgrade thingy on the way for supernova while making his fourth base


14:10

Siege tech bio attack +2 and concussive shells on the way for Gumioh

Thors, ravens and a fifth base for supernova
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
December 07 2011 09:54 GMT
#726
AWESOME depot positions. ;________;
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
December 07 2011 09:54 GMT
#727
i doubt gumiho has much chance..supernova making more ravens
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
December 07 2011 09:54 GMT
#728
So...... I think SuperNoVa has the STRONGER army.....

but gumiho has the mobile army
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 07 2011 09:55 GMT
#729
On December 07 2011 18:53 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:46 Fragile51 wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:44 dapierow wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:43 Fragile51 wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:41 dapierow wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:40 Bayyne wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:38 tztztz wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 Bayyne wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 Ezkaton wrote:
What in the actual fuck just happened in those 2 games? I'm a huk fan but i gotta say well played by keen just punishing a greedy opening and doing what he had to do.


Build order loss, plain and simple.


no, it was not a build order loss


Taken from Liquipedia:

Build Order Win or Build Order Loss:
When a player wins or loses not from skill or strategy but from a build order which hard counters the opponent's build order.

Do I really need to explain what keen did in those two games to hard counter Huk's opening? Are you really going to argue this? lolol


so what your saying is that, huk could have gone 3 nexus before gateway and it would still be considered a build order loss? where do you draw the line between build order and playing greedy?


Why do you think that a build order loss and playing greedy are two different things?


because they are


Do help me wrap my head around that statement, because that doesn't make sense to me. Usually playing greedy means that you sacrifice army to gain some sort of advantage, usually economical, which basically means that greedy play gets hardcountered by anything that takes advantage of that sacrifice in armysize. How is that not a build order loss by playing greedy?


Most of the time people use BO lose referring to situations where you cannot scout, like 6 pool vs hatch first because there's absolutely no way you can scout your opponent before you make that pool. The difference in what we saw with Huk is that Keen did what he did because he scouted Huk and then chose to do what he did.


Ah, i see. Thanks
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 07 2011 09:55 GMT
#730
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Game one on Calm Before the Storm

In the top left is Supernova

While in the top right is Gumiho

1:30

Gas for supernova followed by a barracks

4:30

Expansion on the way for bothj players

Supernova is going banshees

5:40

Second expansion on the way for supernova

Ebay on the way for gumioh

6:30

Lots of turrets on the way for Gumioh

Factory for Gumioh as well as the banshee starts harassing

Blue flame on the way for Supernova

7:30

BFH drop inc for supernova

9:00

Hellions trap the scvs killing 10 scvs before going down

Supernova is going mech

10:30

Another BFH drop kills seven scvs before both hellions die

12:00

Lots of vikings out for gumioh but the drops are still doing a lot of damage


13:00

Turret range upgrade thingy on the way for supernova while making his fourth base


14:10

Siege tech bio attack +2 and concussive shells on the way for Gumioh

Thors, ravens and a fifth base for supernova


16:10

More bases on the way for supernova and gumioh
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 07 2011 09:55 GMT
#731
This map is crazy, ridiculous, insane, mad.

But hilarious. Go go Supernova!
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:56:29
December 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#732
On December 07 2011 18:54 Frazzlehoon wrote:
AWESOME depot positions. ;________;


They really are...

It allows bio to walk through but doesn't allow hellions to pass. Basically you can have your depot wall up the whole time and be impervious to hellion runby's while easily rallying out bio and occasionally dropping depots to move out tanks etc.

Anyway, mech is crazy good on this map xD
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#733
K, that's outclassing
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#734
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Game one on Calm Before the Storm

In the top left is Supernova

While in the top right is Gumiho

1:30

Gas for supernova followed by a barracks

4:30

Expansion on the way for bothj players

Supernova is going banshees

5:40

Second expansion on the way for supernova

Ebay on the way for gumioh

6:30

Lots of turrets on the way for Gumioh

Factory for Gumioh as well as the banshee starts harassing

Blue flame on the way for Supernova

7:30

BFH drop inc for supernova

9:00

Hellions trap the scvs killing 10 scvs before going down

Supernova is going mech

10:30

Another BFH drop kills seven scvs before both hellions die

12:00

Lots of vikings out for gumioh but the drops are still doing a lot of damage


13:00

Turret range upgrade thingy on the way for supernova while making his fourth base

14:10

Siege tech bio attack +2 and concussive shells on the way for Gumioh

Thors, ravens and a fifth base for supernova


16:10

More bases on the way for supernova and gumioh


17:00

Armies engage, vikings land after the thors and ravens kill gumioh's air forces
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:56:37
December 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#735
Omg Gumiho is going to scout that 4th expand! Vikings! Edit: Casters show it after I said it hah >:D
I post only when my brain works.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
December 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#736
LOL!!

SuperNoVa's like

"fuck this, I don't even want to siege, I just want to end this and go to game 2"
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
December 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#737
supernova op. i've always been a fan of him, hes so good :0
Maruprime.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
December 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#738
Poll: Recommend GuMiHo vs SuperNoVa Game 1?

Yes (8)
 
80%

If you have time (2)
 
20%

No (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend GuMiHo vs SuperNoVa Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
December 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#739
Flawless game by supernova.
xlord 5:0
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
December 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#740
On December 07 2011 18:50 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:47 K3Nyy wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:41 blade55555 wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:40 Rykros wrote:
To all those weak minds who think that was an all in and have no sense of judgement. It wasn't. Keen could transition out of it easily if Huk didnot just die.


Actually if Keen did no damage he would be fucked. Huk would roll over him if he held that. So yes by definition keen's attack was all in (did he even plop down an expansion?). A nexus first toss vs a terran who's expansion is way later, loses units and doesn't do damage is guaranteed to lose if the protoss doesn't fuck up.


The thing is, it's impossible for him to not do damage. The Protoss must be a way better player in order to come out ahead.
And your point is? If Protoss had taken no damage then his build would be simply too abusive. There's a reason why SCII isn't such a bad game: there are counters and hard counters to various builds on various maps.


My point was that it wasn't an allin because you're guaranteed damage.
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