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artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
December 07 2011 09:49 GMT
#701
IMHO should have tried to keep the banshee
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
December 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#702
On December 07 2011 18:47 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:41 blade55555 wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:40 Rykros wrote:
To all those weak minds who think that was an all in and have no sense of judgement. It wasn't. Keen could transition out of it easily if Huk didnot just die.


Actually if Keen did no damage he would be fucked. Huk would roll over him if he held that. So yes by definition keen's attack was all in (did he even plop down an expansion?). A nexus first toss vs a terran who's expansion is way later, loses units and doesn't do damage is guaranteed to lose if the protoss doesn't fuck up.


The thing is, it's impossible for him to not do damage. The Protoss must be a way better player in order to come out ahead.
And your point is? If Protoss had taken no damage then his build would be simply too abusive. There's a reason why SCII isn't such a bad game: there are counters and hard counters to various builds on various maps.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#703
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Game one on Calm Before the Storm

In the top left is Supernova

While in the top right is Gumiho

1:30


Gas for supernova followed by a barracks

4:30

Expansion on the way for bothj players

Supernova is going banshees

5:40


Second expansion on the way for supernova

Ebay on the way for gumioh

6:30

Lots of turrets on the way for Gumioh

Factory for Gumioh as well as the banshee starts harassing

Blue flame on the way for Supernova


7:30


BFH drop inc for supernova


9:00


Hellions trap the scvs killing 10 scvs before going down

Supernova is going mech
vetinari
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:51:30
December 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#704
On December 07 2011 18:48 Ruscour wrote:
There's no Costco in Australia.


I thought one opened in melbourne.

On December 07 2011 18:49 PiPoGevy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:48 Ruscour wrote:
There's no Costco in Australia.

There is in Melbourne :D


Beat me. DAMN YOU!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:51:00
December 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#705
Pretty nice defence from Gumiho vs the hellions.

Blocked with the SCV's and then instantly pulled away the back ones before they got vaporized.
colingrad
Profile Joined March 2008
United States210 Posts
December 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#706
On December 07 2011 18:48 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:42 gruff wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:41 Pajegetc wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:40 figq wrote:
Stupid question, but why didn't they ever show Huk on camera today? Something wrong with him?


Probably falling asleep from all the travel.


Are we sure it was Huk playing?
Probably yes, but I got suspicious that he might not be playing from the studio booth for some reason. Couldn't see him anywhere.


they did show him in his booth, it was before the match started when they were showing his stats/results from this month's games
For the Emperor!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
December 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#707
LET'S DO THIS SUPERNOVA!!!

I'm hoping he can shake up GuMiHo enough that Gumiho just can't macro this game
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#708
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Game one on Calm Before the Storm

In the top left is Supernova

While in the top right is Gumiho

1:30


Gas for supernova followed by a barracks

4:30

Expansion on the way for bothj players

Supernova is going banshees

5:40


Second expansion on the way for supernova

Ebay on the way for gumioh

6:30

Lots of turrets on the way for Gumioh

Factory for Gumioh as well as the banshee starts harassing

Blue flame on the way for Supernova

7:30


BFH drop inc for supernova


9:00


Hellions trap the scvs killing 10 scvs before going down

Supernova is going mech


10:30

Another BFH drop kills seven scvs before both hellions die
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
December 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#709
money shot lol
HitMonkie
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia518 Posts
December 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#710
On December 07 2011 18:50 vetinari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:48 Ruscour wrote:
There's no Costco in Australia.


I thought one opened in melbourne.


Yea, and I think they are planning for some in Sydney and Brisbane
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
December 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#711
SuperNova taking a decisive lead
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
December 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#712
Money shot Line em up takes out 6 more SCV's.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#713
3-3-3 OP
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:52:12
December 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#714
Guminho defends pretty well against that, only loses 4 scvs. Edit* Oh it was 6?
I post only when my brain works.
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:52:29
December 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#715
wow 17 workers killed vs 0, I can't see SuperNova losing this, especially with GuMiho going bio.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
December 07 2011 09:52 GMT
#716
On December 07 2011 18:51 Drazerk wrote:
3-3-3 OP


..... don't make me report u.....
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 07 2011 09:52 GMT
#717
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote:
Game one on Calm Before the Storm

In the top left is Supernova

While in the top right is Gumiho

1:30


Gas for supernova followed by a barracks

4:30

Expansion on the way for bothj players

Supernova is going banshees

5:40


Second expansion on the way for supernova

Ebay on the way for gumioh

6:30

Lots of turrets on the way for Gumioh

Factory for Gumioh as well as the banshee starts harassing

Blue flame on the way for Supernova

7:30


BFH drop inc for supernova

9:00


Hellions trap the scvs killing 10 scvs before going down

Supernova is going mech


10:30

Another BFH drop kills seven scvs before both hellions die


12:00


Lots of vikings out for gumioh but the drops are still doing a lot of damage
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 07 2011 09:52 GMT
#718
On December 07 2011 18:52 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:51 Drazerk wrote:
3-3-3 OP


..... don't make me report u.....


♥
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
December 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#719
On December 07 2011 18:46 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:44 dapierow wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:43 Fragile51 wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:41 dapierow wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:40 Bayyne wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:38 tztztz wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 Bayyne wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:34 Ezkaton wrote:
What in the actual fuck just happened in those 2 games? I'm a huk fan but i gotta say well played by keen just punishing a greedy opening and doing what he had to do.


Build order loss, plain and simple.


no, it was not a build order loss


Taken from Liquipedia:

Build Order Win or Build Order Loss:
When a player wins or loses not from skill or strategy but from a build order which hard counters the opponent's build order.

Do I really need to explain what keen did in those two games to hard counter Huk's opening? Are you really going to argue this? lolol


so what your saying is that, huk could have gone 3 nexus before gateway and it would still be considered a build order loss? where do you draw the line between build order and playing greedy?


Why do you think that a build order loss and playing greedy are two different things?


because they are


Do help me wrap my head around that statement, because that doesn't make sense to me. Usually playing greedy means that you sacrifice army to gain some sort of advantage, usually economical, which basically means that greedy play gets hardcountered by anything that takes advantage of that sacrifice in armysize. How is that not a build order loss by playing greedy?


Most of the time people use BO lose referring to situations where you cannot scout, like 6 pool vs hatch first because there's absolutely no way you can scout your opponent before you make that pool. The difference in what we saw with Huk is that Keen did what he did because he scouted Huk and then chose to do what he did.
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:53:44
December 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#720
On December 07 2011 18:52 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:51 Drazerk wrote:
3-3-3 OP


..... don't make me report u.....


It'd be like one of those wild west showdowns, simultaneously everyone points their report button at each other ;P.
\
Ouch Guminho just being roasted.
I post only when my brain works.
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