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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
In the top left is SupernovaWhile in the top right is Gumiho | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:41 dapierow wrote: so what your saying is that, huk could have gone 3 nexus before gateway and it would still be considered a build order loss? where do you draw the line between build order and playing greedy? The TL definition isn't flawless: a build order that hard counters an opponent's build order is a strategic victory - how is it a win "not from strategy?" | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:41 blade55555 wrote: Actually if Keen did no damage he would be fucked. Huk would roll over him if he held that. So yes by definition keen's attack was all in (did he even plop down an expansion?). A nexus first toss vs a terran who's expansion is way later, loses units and doesn't do damage is guaranteed to lose if the protoss doesn't fuck up. See heres the wonderful thing about reactionary builds. You do them because you know they are going to do damage. They have the timings ironed out. In no universe can Huk get a Nexus first and shut that down completely imo. Even if he doesnt takes double gas and adds a gateway or 2 thats what 2? 3 ? stalkers. While its a big diff and Keen might not kill him he would for sure lose his nat and maybe some probes in the least. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
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DoubleB
Germany870 Posts
@Reasonable: Its more like the western world vs the east  | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote: Game one on Calm Before the Storm In the top left is SupernovaWhile in the top right is Gumiho1:30 Gas for supernova followed by a barracks | ||
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Lord_J
Kenya1085 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:44 ZenithM wrote: These maps are so Zerg favored. Leenock should take it. LOL. oh I dont think the Gumiho/Leenock jokes will ever get old. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
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synkronized
United States125 Posts
Huk needs to work on his decision making and openers, I've seen him play greedy either with aggression or econ and it always bites him in the ass. | ||
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n0ise
3452 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:41 dapierow wrote: so what your saying is that, huk could have gone 3 nexus before gateway and it would still be considered a build order loss? where do you draw the line between build order and playing greedy? But THAT'S WHAT BO LOSS MEANS. Playing greedy blindly. R O F L hahahahahaahhaha Anyway. Instead of trying to scout he decided to go for the metagame counter, with 15 nexus, 2 gas and fast robo. He got lol'd on. HuK would've been more than fine with 3 gates and constant chrono on cybercore. Such is life. | ||
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Ezkaton
Japan416 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
Do help me wrap my head around that statement, because that doesn't make sense to me. Usually playing greedy means that you sacrifice army to gain some sort of advantage, usually economical, which basically means that greedy play gets hardcountered by anything that takes advantage of that sacrifice in armysize. How is that not a build order loss by playing greedy? | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:46 Ezkaton wrote: Is it just me or does Gumiho kinda look like leenock? It's not just you, they really look alike :p | ||
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Lord_J
Kenya1085 Posts
 GuMiho was one of the real innovators of mech TvT... | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:38 Pipeline wrote: Why Huk went Nexus first against a terran on a 2 player map is beyond me. If he just did a standard 3 gate 1 robo expand (or even a 1 gate 1 robo) he could have held against any hellion push. 3 gate 1 robo expands would have been safe but does not fare very well against 1-1-1 variations though. The expand comes too late to be able to do the continuous 5 gate+robo production you need vs 1-1-1s. Huk was probably expecting Keen to go for something like that. Fast nexus is actually the best soft counter to the 1-1-1 the problem is it's extremely vulnerable to other kinds of early pressure. | ||
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Pajegetc
United States3158 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:46 Ezkaton wrote: Is it just me or does Gumiho kinda look like leenock? Yeah, they look like they could be brothers. | ||
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:44 Drazerk wrote: Game one on Calm Before the Storm In the top left is SupernovaWhile in the top right is GumihoI've been out of the loop for a while it seems. Don't even know this map. An in base natural and a close third? Is this Delta Quadrant?  | ||
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colingrad
United States210 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:44 Reasonable wrote: Distance from Ukraine to Canada is roughly 7900 kilometers, while distance from Ukraine to South Korea is 7400 kilometers. Hence, Huk is more foreign to me than Keen. Why would I root for foreigner if he is as foreign to me as he is to Koreans? I like how this guy from Singapore is pissed that "foreigner" lost. Is there any logic behind this? the origins of the term 'foreigner' go wayyy back, essentially if you're not korean, you're a 'foreigner' | ||
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