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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned.

The same goes for the regular crowd of:

-Balance whiners
-Stream whiners
-Event and caster bashers
-HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters

Stick to the games and enjoy your free event.
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
December 04 2011 23:55 GMT
#681
On December 05 2011 08:45 Scribble wrote:
For next season I'd really like to see them have multiple streams. It's bad enough having things drawn out and delayed so much, but it's especially odd that the delays are for HoN in a *star*league.


Star in NASL doesn't stand Starcraft. It's meant to mean League of Star players from North America
d=(^_^)z
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 00:00:27
December 04 2011 23:55 GMT
#682
On December 05 2011 08:51 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 08:45 Scribble wrote:
For next season I'd really like to see them have multiple streams. It's bad enough having things drawn out and delayed so much, but it's especially odd that the delays are for HoN in a *star*league.

Sigh..

The HoN games aren't a "delay" - they are part of the official schedule; they had a regular season, just like the SC2 had a regular season. HoN is a part of the NASL. Even though it has the word "star" in it! I KNOW IT'S CRAZY RIGHT!!?!?!?!

Seriously..


Would you care to actually read the post? Because there is only one stream for the HoN games to be played on, they do delay the start of SC2. If there were 2 streams, HoN could be played alongside SC2. At the very least, it would make the schedule more flexible.

I also didn't suggest that HoN shouldn't be apart of the NASL. I'm just saying that it's frustrating having SC, the focus of a starleague, played at hours that are so difficult for so many people and it is an issue that should be taken care of for next season...by having 2 streams.
metbull
Profile Joined April 2011
United States404 Posts
December 04 2011 23:56 GMT
#683
it's not late. It's in PST. You know like how Blizzard does Patches & Maintenance on PST.
Follow the logic bread crumbs.........

California = PST
NASL = California
therefore is is reasonable to determine NASL operates on PST time not EST or any other timezone, timeline, or parallel dimension.
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
December 04 2011 23:58 GMT
#684
Nice , I went to sleep and came back thinking that I had missed everything then I had this awesome surprise :D.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
December 04 2011 23:58 GMT
#685
From Day9s Twitter: "About to do Day[9] Daily #380 live at @nasltv grand finals ! Www.twitch.tv/naslseasontwo"

I dont get it.....why?
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
VForce
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany90 Posts
December 04 2011 23:59 GMT
#686
On December 05 2011 08:43 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 08:41 VForce wrote:
On December 05 2011 08:37 Stanlot wrote:
Just tuned in, wet myself after hearing the BW terran theme <3


Experienced the same thing yesterday. Was also wondering whether you could get the soundtrack somewhere. Did not do any research so far myself but maybe someone knows the answer to that.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=122119


Thank you for the link, now that I see the thread title I am a bit ashamed that I did not look for it myself. Normaly I am a big fan of try first on your own, then ask.
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 00:05:40
December 05 2011 00:00 GMT
#687
On December 05 2011 08:54 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 08:51 gh0un wrote:
On December 05 2011 08:28 Ruscour wrote:
On December 05 2011 08:24 gh0un wrote:
On December 05 2011 08:22 Ruscour wrote:
On December 05 2011 08:20 gh0un wrote:
On December 05 2011 08:17 Proko wrote:
I have a question... Is HoN gonna survive when Blizz dota and dota2 come out? isn't it smaller than LoL already?


Its already pretty much dead considering that both LoL and Dota1 have much larger playerbases (HoN has 50k at a time while LoL and Dota have several millions at a time).
Therefore i dont even understand why NASL picked up HoN as their "dota" game instead of LoL or even Dota1 or 2.

It was a sponsored title, Dota1 has a small player base in comparison in the west and HoN is going up and up in terms of players :-/ don't just assume things mmkay


Im not assuming things.
Dota1 has over 15 million players just in the west, with US definitely having the least players.
China on its own has that amount of Dota players aswell. These numbers come from Icefrog himself (1 year old numbers).

How is HoN going up in players? Back in the beta it had 100k peak (i know because i was playing).
After it went retail it dropped to like 20k. After it went f2p it went up to 50k. For the last few weeks it was dropping to like 40k again. Dont just assume things yourself.

There is absolutely no way Dota1 has 15 million ACTIVE players in the west. LoL is way, way bigger and it doesn't even have that many accounts if I recall correctly.


The download count on the map version says otherwise.
It probably has even more than 15 million western players considering that not everyone downloads from the official website.


MLG (anahiem I want to say?) had 22.5 million stream views. Therefore, it had 22.5 million individual viewers? Consider smurf accounts, reinstalls, multiple PCs, etc etc.



MLG having 22.5 million stream views makes alot of sense because many people do have to restart the stream like after every ad (i have to aswell).
Thats like a 100x multiplicator for me and everyone else that has the same problem and im not even counting the countless switching between streams.

Downloading a map version more than once in the other hand, especially in the first couple days, makes absolutely no sense.
The smurf account argumentation doesnt make any sense because you dont download the map version twice for each account.
I have never downloaded a map version more than once because that just doesnt make any sense, sorry brother.

But if you want to go to the what ifs then ill tell you this.
Consider the chinese that do NOT download from the official website, because they have their own chinese dota hub website. Actually consider everyone that doesnt download from the official website.
Consider the countless pc bangs that do not keep the version up to date at all and only have to download the version once anyways. There is plenty of stuff to consider that actually increases the amount of players but not that many that decreases it.

There are countries in which you can enter a pc bang and see everyone play dota on every single pc.
The phillipines, turkey, china, russia, i could go on but i think i made my point.
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
December 05 2011 00:00 GMT
#688
Why don't tournaments do official restreams to match the timezones? Would have loved to catch the games today and almost missed the whole tournament, doing this would really increase viewership and revenue?
If you can chill.. Chill!
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 05 2011 00:01 GMT
#689
Can someone who does actually watch the finals report back on the peak viewer count they see?
Most I saw during the RO8 games was Puma vs Idra and it peaked at about 47k stream viewers I think. Didn't watch the all of the semi finals because I went to bed instead, so I don't know if they were higher, but I remember seeing about 42k during the first semi final I think.

I would be surprised if they manage to break 50k during the finals.
HOLY CHECK!
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
December 05 2011 00:02 GMT
#690
these commercials. i just wish. just once. that the volume would not instantly scale 300%.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
December 05 2011 00:03 GMT
#691
On December 05 2011 08:58 Enki wrote:
From Day9s Twitter: "About to do Day[9] Daily #380 live at @nasltv grand finals ! Www.twitch.tv/naslseasontwo"

I dont get it.....why?

i dont get it either, without it i would stay awake... but this way. no.
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 05 2011 00:03 GMT
#692
On December 05 2011 08:55 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 08:51 bkrow wrote:
On December 05 2011 08:45 Scribble wrote:
For next season I'd really like to see them have multiple streams. It's bad enough having things drawn out and delayed so much, but it's especially odd that the delays are for HoN in a *star*league.

Sigh..

The HoN games aren't a "delay" - they are part of the official schedule; they had a regular season, just like the SC2 had a regular season. HoN is a part of the NASL. Even though it has the word "star" in it! I KNOW IT'S CRAZY RIGHT!!?!?!?!

Seriously..


Would you care to actually read the post? Because there is only one stream for the HoN games to be played on, they do delay the start of SC2. If there were 2 streams, HoN could be played alongside SC2. At the very least, it would make the schedule more flexible.

I also didn't suggest that HoN shouldn't be apart of the NASL. I'm just saying that it's frustrating having SC, the focus of a starleague, played at hours that are so difficult for so many people and it is an issue that should be taken care of for next season...by having 2 streams.

Somehow the fact that there are no games now plus the day9 daily being played before the sc2 finals makes me think the timeslot for the SC2 finals is deliberate and not resultant.

But it's ok to be EU
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
brucebanner
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway31 Posts
December 05 2011 00:03 GMT
#693
I was kinda disappointed by Sen, figured he would put up more of a fight against Hero. Then again, Hero is insane. Was hoping for a Huk vs Idra grand finals, but kinda figured Hero vs Puma would be the one actually happening. Which is far from a bad match-up. Too bad I won't be able to watch it live, as it's so late it stops being night and starts being morning when it airs.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
December 05 2011 00:04 GMT
#694
It's on! :D
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
itungle
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States90 Posts
December 05 2011 00:04 GMT
#695
I think NASL should have side show matches like ASUS ROG. That was really fun and its also kill downtime. ~_~
Tasteless: "This turret, is it ever going to complete?" Artosis: "That turret man is like all my highschool papers. Good intentions but it was never gonna finish."
terialk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States770 Posts
December 05 2011 00:05 GMT
#696
Aww yeah, Hero v Sen analysis? So tasty :3
"This is not the beginning of an end. Instead, it is the end of a beginning." // Little Sprite Fan :D // Never go full China. // At least NA won at Dota 2.
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
December 05 2011 00:05 GMT
#697
unnecessary sean.
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
December 05 2011 00:05 GMT
#698
fuck yeah i love day9
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
December 05 2011 00:05 GMT
#699
On December 05 2011 09:03 Swiv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 08:58 Enki wrote:
From Day9s Twitter: "About to do Day[9] Daily #380 live at @nasltv grand finals ! Www.twitch.tv/naslseasontwo"

I dont get it.....why?

i dont get it either, without it i would stay awake... but this way. no.


OMG

1 AM EUROPE, and NASL... is doing a day9 daily. WTF is wrong with this NASL.. rofl. cu NASL maybe next finals.
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
December 05 2011 00:06 GMT
#700
On December 05 2011 08:55 elmizzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 08:45 Scribble wrote:
For next season I'd really like to see them have multiple streams. It's bad enough having things drawn out and delayed so much, but it's especially odd that the delays are for HoN in a *star*league.


Star in NASL doesn't stand Starcraft. It's meant to mean League of Star players from North America

Well, it's logical people would think NASL would mean North American Starleague where star means starcraft. Since season one it was only starcraft. Not to mention OSL,MSL,GSL, all have "starleague" and it is meant for starcraft.
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