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Radook
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden326 Posts
November 27 2011 09:39 GMT
#12621
Sad that my favorite player Puma didn't win but happy Hero won a tournament.
Woop Woop!
Normalised
Profile Joined August 2011
Macedonia27 Posts
November 27 2011 09:42 GMT
#12622
On November 27 2011 14:47 Hemula wrote:
who won in quake? please, summarize it shortly if you can. since I was sleeping could not watch it.


rapha lost to his recurring sens bug.

a far cry from his 90% rail earlier in the tournament. you could tell he just couldnt hit any of his shots and it was upsetting his whole gameplay. sad final really.

cypher played really well but it was a real anticlimax.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 27 2011 09:47 GMT
#12623
i was wondering if anyone captured the moment when hero won and the TL guys rushed out to hug him and congratulate him. I was sad that Dreamhack did not capture this moment! Please tell me someone has it!
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 11:55:29
November 27 2011 11:49 GMT
#12624
This was the first live event I've gone to and I have to say the atmosphere was just amazing. The stream does not even begin to show how loud and intense the cheering was throughout the finals. The youtube video someone posted earlier show is a bit better but being there in the crowd in person was just so intense!

Also, during the whole finals Day9 (and to some extent the other casters on the couch) went totally banans everytime there was a huge roar from the crowd, which was awsome to see. They were really getting in to it !
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
November 27 2011 12:30 GMT
#12625
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\



Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
November 27 2011 12:42 GMT
#12626
Wow HerO did it!

Must have been a awesome finals since it was 4:3!! :D

Shame i was working and had no internet there =/

Gonna watch the vods now
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
November 27 2011 12:45 GMT
#12627
such a great tourney!
<3 Moonbattles
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
November 27 2011 12:57 GMT
#12628
On November 27 2011 18:42 Normalised wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 14:47 Hemula wrote:
who won in quake? please, summarize it shortly if you can. since I was sleeping could not watch it.


rapha lost to his recurring sens bug.

a far cry from his 90% rail earlier in the tournament. you could tell he just couldnt hit any of his shots and it was upsetting his whole gameplay. sad final really.

cypher played really well but it was a real anticlimax.


thats what happens when you choke, not because of a phantom game bug.

he was choking because cypher hit almost 100% of his railguns in those rail vs rail exchanges. (railgun average doesn't tell the whole story, you're lookikng at accuracy for many different types of shots that have varied difficulty)


cypher won almost all of the rocket vs rocket and lightning gun vs lightning gun as well.

cypher completely outplayed rapha in the games i watched.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 27 2011 12:59 GMT
#12629
Just managed to catch the vods and holy shit that was an epic series! An actual good and nailbiting final! ( not to ditch mlg, but their finals are crap, hello extended series).

Again big grats to hero and team liquid, keep up the good work.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 13:08:45
November 27 2011 13:06 GMT
#12630
On November 27 2011 21:30 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtd91_ZtJD0

Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity


How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there.
At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality.
Batch
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden692 Posts
November 27 2011 13:15 GMT
#12631
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 21:30 Technique wrote:
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtd91_ZtJD0

Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity


How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there.
At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality.

If you actually read the discussion you would understand that they were talking about the production and not the players.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 27 2011 13:26 GMT
#12632
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 21:30 Technique wrote:
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtd91_ZtJD0

Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity


How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there.
At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality.


If you're getting high level games, why would you care about the ethnicity of the people playing?

A lot of highly rated Koreans at MLG end up showing mediocre games for one reason or the other (horrible format rules, treadmill scheduling, bad form, not being used to one-weekend-long tournaments, tiredness etc).

The quality of play at MLG wasn't higher at all and this whole obsession with Koreans in SC2 is getting stale. You can't just count flags to determine the quality of a tournament.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
November 27 2011 13:33 GMT
#12633
On November 27 2011 22:26 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
On November 27 2011 21:30 Technique wrote:
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtd91_ZtJD0

Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity


How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there.
At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality.


If you're getting high level games, why would you care about the ethnicity of the people playing?

A lot of highly rated Koreans at MLG end up showing mediocre games for one reason or the other (horrible format rules, treadmill scheduling, bad form, not being used to one-weekend-long tournaments, tiredness etc).

The quality of play at MLG wasn't higher at all and this whole obsession with Koreans in SC2 is getting stale. You can't just count flags to determine the quality of a tournament.


But the fact is they are better right now. Why deny it.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 27 2011 13:36 GMT
#12634
On November 27 2011 22:26 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
On November 27 2011 21:30 Technique wrote:
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtd91_ZtJD0

Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity


How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there.
At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality.


If you're getting high level games, why would you care about the ethnicity of the people playing?

A lot of highly rated Koreans at MLG end up showing mediocre games for one reason or the other (horrible format rules, treadmill scheduling, bad form, not being used to one-weekend-long tournaments, tiredness etc).

The quality of play at MLG wasn't higher at all and this whole obsession with Koreans in SC2 is getting stale. You can't just count flags to determine the quality of a tournament.

God Bless you dude.

If only more people had your thought process on this site...

Actually, what should happen is for every big tournament we should fly out the entirety of Code S, because otherwise it won't be legitimate. Not enough Korean Terrans? Tournament was weak. No Nestea/MVP/MC? Best in the world weren't there so it didn't matter.

Great, great tournament, and really excellent finals. Hopefully MLG can change at least the quarter/semi finals and finals to not be extended series...
I love crazymoving
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 13:40:41
November 27 2011 13:36 GMT
#12635
On November 27 2011 22:15 Batch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
On November 27 2011 21:30 Technique wrote:
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtd91_ZtJD0

Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity


How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there.
At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality.

If you actually read the discussion you would understand that they were talking about the production and not the players.


If only talking about production, I would vote MLG for better production quality.

Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 27 2011 13:41 GMT
#12636
On November 27 2011 22:36 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 22:15 Batch wrote:
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
On November 27 2011 21:30 Technique wrote:
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtd91_ZtJD0

Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity


How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there.
At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality.

If you actually read the discussion you would understand that they were talking about the production and not the players.


If only talking about production, I would vote for MLG for better quality.


MLG actually does have better quality and quantity than DH imo. It's just that extended series tends to create bad finals. The crowds during finals at MLG are never THAT good because the finals are never THAT exciting. So people say "Oh DH was so great quality" but... that was just because it had really good finals.
I love crazymoving
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
November 27 2011 13:43 GMT
#12637
On November 27 2011 22:41 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 22:36 ElephantBaby wrote:
On November 27 2011 22:15 Batch wrote:
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
On November 27 2011 21:30 Technique wrote:
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtd91_ZtJD0

Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity


How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there.
At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality.

If you actually read the discussion you would understand that they were talking about the production and not the players.


If only talking about production, I would vote for MLG for better quality.


MLG actually does have better quality and quantity than DH imo. It's just that extended series tends to create bad finals. The crowds during finals at MLG are never THAT good because the finals are never THAT exciting. So people say "Oh DH was so great quality" but... that was just because it had really good finals.

Not liking the extended series thing also.
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
November 27 2011 13:53 GMT
#12638
I just finished the VODs. It is great to watch hero win and it is great to watch puma lose. Amazing tournament.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 27 2011 13:57 GMT
#12639
On November 27 2011 22:33 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 22:26 Talin wrote:
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
On November 27 2011 21:30 Technique wrote:
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtd91_ZtJD0

Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity


How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there.
At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality.


If you're getting high level games, why would you care about the ethnicity of the people playing?

A lot of highly rated Koreans at MLG end up showing mediocre games for one reason or the other (horrible format rules, treadmill scheduling, bad form, not being used to one-weekend-long tournaments, tiredness etc).

The quality of play at MLG wasn't higher at all and this whole obsession with Koreans in SC2 is getting stale. You can't just count flags to determine the quality of a tournament.


But the fact is they are better right now. Why deny it.


Some players are better than the others at any given time, and some of them are Korean, that is the only fact. And even that is a meaningless fact if they show up at an event and don't bring their A game.

The current SC2 Koreans are neither superior nor dominating as a whole so that you can determine tournament quality by counting how many there are.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 14:08:37
November 27 2011 14:01 GMT
#12640
On November 27 2011 22:57 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 22:33 ElephantBaby wrote:
On November 27 2011 22:26 Talin wrote:
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
On November 27 2011 21:30 Technique wrote:
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 27 2011 14:43 Scarecrow wrote:
That 1 archon shot on the vikings turned out to be so huge!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtd91_ZtJD0

Just amazing energy and production value.

I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey

dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity


How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there.
At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality.


If you're getting high level games, why would you care about the ethnicity of the people playing?

A lot of highly rated Koreans at MLG end up showing mediocre games for one reason or the other (horrible format rules, treadmill scheduling, bad form, not being used to one-weekend-long tournaments, tiredness etc).

The quality of play at MLG wasn't higher at all and this whole obsession with Koreans in SC2 is getting stale. You can't just count flags to determine the quality of a tournament.


But the fact is they are better right now. Why deny it.


Some players are better than the others at any given time, and some of them are Korean, that is the only fact. And even that is a meaningless fact if they show up at an event and don't bring their A game.

The current SC2 Koreans are neither superior nor dominating as a whole so that you can determine tournament quality by counting how many there are.


They are dominating and superior currently imo. Only 4 decent Koreans came here, they got a level playing filed, not like in MLG, none of them are eliminated by foreigners.
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