EPTDreamHack Winter 2011 Day 3 - Page 632
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Radook
Sweden326 Posts
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Normalised
Macedonia27 Posts
On November 27 2011 14:47 Hemula wrote: who won in quake? please, summarize it shortly if you can. since I was sleeping could not watch it. rapha lost to his recurring sens bug. a far cry from his 90% rail earlier in the tournament. you could tell he just couldnt hit any of his shots and it was upsetting his whole gameplay. sad final really. cypher played really well but it was a real anticlimax. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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Intact
Sweden634 Posts
Also, during the whole finals Day9 (and to some extent the other casters on the couch) went totally banans everytime there was a huge roar from the crowd, which was awsome to see. They were really getting in to it ! | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On November 27 2011 15:11 mrtomjones wrote: I'd say MLG was better done in man ways. I liked the couch casters for the finals though. Was like the panel between periods in hockey dreamhack is quality, mlg is quantity | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
Must have been a awesome finals since it was 4:3!! :D Shame i was working and had no internet there =/ Gonna watch the vods now  | ||
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
On November 27 2011 18:42 Normalised wrote: rapha lost to his recurring sens bug. a far cry from his 90% rail earlier in the tournament. you could tell he just couldnt hit any of his shots and it was upsetting his whole gameplay. sad final really. cypher played really well but it was a real anticlimax. thats what happens when you choke, not because of a phantom game bug. he was choking because cypher hit almost 100% of his railguns in those rail vs rail exchanges. (railgun average doesn't tell the whole story, you're lookikng at accuracy for many different types of shots that have varied difficulty) cypher won almost all of the rocket vs rocket and lightning gun vs lightning gun as well. cypher completely outplayed rapha in the games i watched. | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
Again big grats to hero and team liquid, keep up the good work. | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there. At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality. | ||
Batch
Sweden692 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote: How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there. At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality. If you actually read the discussion you would understand that they were talking about the production and not the players. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:06 ElephantBaby wrote: How is that quality, when you only get 4 decent Koreans out there. At least get 10 Code S players, then we can talk about quality. If you're getting high level games, why would you care about the ethnicity of the people playing? A lot of highly rated Koreans at MLG end up showing mediocre games for one reason or the other (horrible format rules, treadmill scheduling, bad form, not being used to one-weekend-long tournaments, tiredness etc). The quality of play at MLG wasn't higher at all and this whole obsession with Koreans in SC2 is getting stale. You can't just count flags to determine the quality of a tournament. | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:26 Talin wrote: If you're getting high level games, why would you care about the ethnicity of the people playing? A lot of highly rated Koreans at MLG end up showing mediocre games for one reason or the other (horrible format rules, treadmill scheduling, bad form, not being used to one-weekend-long tournaments, tiredness etc). The quality of play at MLG wasn't higher at all and this whole obsession with Koreans in SC2 is getting stale. You can't just count flags to determine the quality of a tournament. But the fact is they are better right now. Why deny it. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:26 Talin wrote: If you're getting high level games, why would you care about the ethnicity of the people playing? A lot of highly rated Koreans at MLG end up showing mediocre games for one reason or the other (horrible format rules, treadmill scheduling, bad form, not being used to one-weekend-long tournaments, tiredness etc). The quality of play at MLG wasn't higher at all and this whole obsession with Koreans in SC2 is getting stale. You can't just count flags to determine the quality of a tournament. God Bless you dude. If only more people had your thought process on this site... Actually, what should happen is for every big tournament we should fly out the entirety of Code S, because otherwise it won't be legitimate. Not enough Korean Terrans? Tournament was weak. No Nestea/MVP/MC? Best in the world weren't there so it didn't matter. Great, great tournament, and really excellent finals. Hopefully MLG can change at least the quarter/semi finals and finals to not be extended series... | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:15 Batch wrote: If you actually read the discussion you would understand that they were talking about the production and not the players. If only talking about production, I would vote MLG for better production quality. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:36 ElephantBaby wrote: If only talking about production, I would vote for MLG for better quality. MLG actually does have better quality and quantity than DH imo. It's just that extended series tends to create bad finals. The crowds during finals at MLG are never THAT good because the finals are never THAT exciting. So people say "Oh DH was so great quality" but... that was just because it had really good finals. | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:41 Flonomenalz wrote: MLG actually does have better quality and quantity than DH imo. It's just that extended series tends to create bad finals. The crowds during finals at MLG are never THAT good because the finals are never THAT exciting. So people say "Oh DH was so great quality" but... that was just because it had really good finals. Not liking the extended series thing also. | ||
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bertu
Brazil871 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:33 ElephantBaby wrote: But the fact is they are better right now. Why deny it. Some players are better than the others at any given time, and some of them are Korean, that is the only fact. And even that is a meaningless fact if they show up at an event and don't bring their A game. The current SC2 Koreans are neither superior nor dominating as a whole so that you can determine tournament quality by counting how many there are. | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:57 Talin wrote: Some players are better than the others at any given time, and some of them are Korean, that is the only fact. And even that is a meaningless fact if they show up at an event and don't bring their A game. The current SC2 Koreans are neither superior nor dominating as a whole so that you can determine tournament quality by counting how many there are. They are dominating and superior currently imo. Only 4 decent Koreans came here, they got a level playing filed, not like in MLG, none of them are eliminated by foreigners. | ||
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