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Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 18:12:01
November 26 2011 18:11 GMT
#4061
Is anyone else really bothered by the mouse-pointer on the screen lol?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 26 2011 18:11 GMT
#4062
On November 27 2011 03:11 DoubleDouble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:09 Coolhwip wrote:
On November 27 2011 03:08 DoubleDouble wrote:
why would you ever go collosus over immortals against 1-1-1


To kill marines?


marines arent even the unit that makes 1-1-1 strong.

Uhh they play a big role. They do so much damage...
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 26 2011 18:11 GMT
#4063
On November 27 2011 03:09 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On November 27 2011 03:07 Noocta wrote:
On November 27 2011 03:07 1Eris1 wrote:
I hate this whole
"oh puma is such a bad player because he relies on 1-1-1)
HE PLAYS TO WIN
The guy can play amazing macro games we've all seen it, he's not fucking bitbyebye or something, he just plays smart.
Why the fuck would you play only macro games if thats where your oppenent is strongest?

If 1-1-1 is imbalanced or whatever fine, hate the build, not the player. Players should always play to win.


He just use it a bit too much for everyone taste.


MorroW used 5RR too much.

MC used 6gate blink too much.

etc.

It's called winning


Exactly. Its a tournament not a popularity contest. Who cares how you win as long a you do it

There's a big difference in winratio for those builds though
Near1985
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
November 26 2011 18:11 GMT
#4064
<3 mouce cerser
Maybe Hes Born with it, Maybe its OGC!, Its how old we are, but When old we are.!
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4065
people that hate on 1-1-1 are just mad/jealous/retarded..

User was warned for this post
IM & EG supporter
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4066
On November 27 2011 03:10 Beardedclam wrote:
Why does Artosis still think 1 base is good vs 1-1-1 lol?


Because it's him. Hopefully some people think for themselves.
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4067
Nobody talks about how well he executed the build... typical.
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 18:13:02
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4068
Why bm Puma for doing 1-1-1? It's part of the game. Just like cannon rush and 6 pool. Stop whining and enjoy the games.

Besides. It was nightend's mistakes that cost him the game. Not the 1-1-1
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4069
regardless, nightend handled that terribly. i want to see a good defense instead of whining about what the other player did.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4070
On November 27 2011 03:11 syllogism wrote:
Haha puma does like the first one base build in the whole tournament and the tears start falling

It is because people can be sure to see a 1/1/1 out of puma in a Bo3/5/7 or whatever vs a P at least one.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4071
On November 27 2011 03:09 Goshdarnit wrote:
Regardless of the build that was a fun match to watch puma play. Great positioning. Also why not colossus range?


If you go 1-base Colossus with range you have no gas for anything else
Saw how few Stalkers Nightend had? Yeah well forget about those
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 18:12:38
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4072
his name isnt pewma
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4073
Oh yeah guys, keep whining about 1-1-1, I LOVE IT !! Even as a protoss player I find this behavior completely pathetic. This strategy is perfectly legit, just deal with it and enjoy dreamhack.

Nightend fighting!
o choro é livre
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4074
IMO, 1base Colossus only works if Terran doesn't go Cloak and attacks you really fast. If he just waits and builds up a tank/banshee count then you will lose.

That is how I lose doing it everytime, I just can't see a way around it, you need to expand--one base just doesn't have the income
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4075
Nightend would have fucking held that if he used 2 hotkeys for his army ffs.
asdfasdfa

makes me so mad
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4076
On November 27 2011 03:10 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:08 mvtaylor wrote:
On November 27 2011 03:08 DoubleDouble wrote:
why would you ever go collosus over immortals against 1-1-1


These experts seem to have found some reasons for you lol

i still say immortals..harden shield/50 damage to take out the tanks, bunch of stalkers with obs for banshees, and sentry/zealot for FF/tanking shots? idk


The hardened shields don't help in the 1-1-1 fights because they are small enough fights to where you can easily just focus marines on immo and tanks on everything else
DoubleDouble
Profile Joined August 2011
United States106 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4077
On November 27 2011 03:11 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:11 DoubleDouble wrote:
On November 27 2011 03:09 Coolhwip wrote:
On November 27 2011 03:08 DoubleDouble wrote:
why would you ever go collosus over immortals against 1-1-1


To kill marines?


marines arent even the unit that makes 1-1-1 strong.

Uhh they play a big role. They do so much damage...

they arent the backbone of the build they can be picked off by gateway units. dealing with tanks is almost priority
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4078
On November 27 2011 03:11 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:11 DoubleDouble wrote:
On November 27 2011 03:09 Coolhwip wrote:
On November 27 2011 03:08 DoubleDouble wrote:
why would you ever go collosus over immortals against 1-1-1


To kill marines?


marines arent even the unit that makes 1-1-1 strong.

Uhh they play a big role. They do so much damage...

Maybe, but the siege tanks are the real problem, not to mention the raven if you include one.
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 18:13:49
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4079
On November 27 2011 03:11 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:10 Skyline026 wrote:
On November 27 2011 03:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
I've tried one base Colossus so many times, and it doesn't work at all vs the 1-1-1.



Ok bronze.

Ill make sure everybody gets the memo.


Multiple pros have said that one base collosus does not counter 1-1-1


The build that Koreans use to stop 1-1-1 is 1 gate expand into 3gate robo around 24-26 supply. It's very strong but the hard part is that if the Terran does damage with banshees like Puma vs Genius he can just expand and he ahead.
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
ig0tfish
Profile Joined July 2009
United States345 Posts
November 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#4080
LOL @ everyone who says 1/1/1 is a free win. It's actually not.
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