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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
November 25 2011 10:39 GMT
#1121
On November 25 2011 19:37 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:37 Rammstorm wrote:
Stephano got figured out + he ain't playing that good. Naniwa w the 1 build to go. huK getting pwnt by PUMA, and didn't see Idra vs HuK was it 1 sided ?


yeah it was. game 1 idra lost to DT's plain and simple, game 2 he tried a roach expansion cancel all in and failed. Not good and nothing to learn from not even entertaining :/.


Idra should beg MC to play 1000 games with him and learn how to friking zvp.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1122
On November 25 2011 19:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:37 Grantler wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:35 aderum wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:34 Grantler wrote:
oh protoss


please dont start this. Stephano its playing an outdates style.


Lol? What would you have him do?

Tech up to either mutas or broodlord/infestor like everyone good at ZvP has been doing? Seriously, if you plan on going roach hydra you have to be aggressive but he didn't even try.


Yep. Every zerg whiner here makes me sick. You understand ZvP better than they do. Seriously.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1123
On November 25 2011 19:39 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Wheres the terrifying quick hive + spine play ive seen stephano play so well?

Yeah, Stephano didn't played like Stephano at all this serie.
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1124
On November 25 2011 19:39 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:38 DoubleB wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 enemy2010 wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:35 aderum wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:34 Grantler wrote:
oh protoss


please dont start this. Stephano its playing an outdates style.

Can you quick please tell me, what kind of army Stephano needed to win this/stay more on top in that fight?

I am low platinum myself and I end up having exactly the same comp of units against a protoss in my games.

Thanks

Stephano could have teched earlier. Some Infestors or BLords would have helped him alot!


no he couldn't have

Naniwa killed off all his expansions and kept him on 6 gas all game

he would have died if he teched to hive or infestors


What? You need more than 6 gas to tech to infestors? Please be serious for a moment.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1125
On November 25 2011 19:39 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:38 DoubleB wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 enemy2010 wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:35 aderum wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:34 Grantler wrote:
oh protoss


please dont start this. Stephano its playing an outdates style.

Can you quick please tell me, what kind of army Stephano needed to win this/stay more on top in that fight?

I am low platinum myself and I end up having exactly the same comp of units against a protoss in my games.

Thanks

Stephano could have teched earlier. Some Infestors or BLords would have helped him alot!


no he couldn't have

Naniwa killed off all his expansions and kept him on 6 gas all game

he would have died if he teched to hive or infestors


Then that's good play by Naniwa not imbalance.
nick1689
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia494 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1126
Arrgghh, I want Huk to beat Orly, but if he does that means that Idra definitely isnt going to the next stage (if he beats Puma). I really want Idra to win :D Though Huk is going to beat Orly... EG has been stomping him
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1127
How was Sheth versus Stephano?
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1128
On November 25 2011 19:33 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:32 jjhchsc2 wrote:
is it really laggy for anyone else?


No TT sorry must be your end.

TTT
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13005 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1129
On November 25 2011 19:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:37 bgx wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 mrscheng wrote:
so stephano was a fluke

60-70k $ fluke -_-


Wouldn't be the first time.

FruitDealer comes to mind.

Lol except that FruitDealer won only one tournament and it was the easiest GSL ever.
Stephano won 3 tournaments against very good opponents
WriterMaru
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1130
On November 25 2011 19:40 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:39 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:38 DoubleB wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 enemy2010 wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:35 aderum wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:34 Grantler wrote:
oh protoss


please dont start this. Stephano its playing an outdates style.

Can you quick please tell me, what kind of army Stephano needed to win this/stay more on top in that fight?

I am low platinum myself and I end up having exactly the same comp of units against a protoss in my games.

Thanks

Stephano could have teched earlier. Some Infestors or BLords would have helped him alot!


no he couldn't have

Naniwa killed off all his expansions and kept him on 6 gas all game

he would have died if he teched to hive or infestors


Then that's good play by Naniwa not imbalance.


I agree

I was just saying that "he should have teched faster!" isn't the awnser
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1131
I don't think Stephano is out
If Sheth goes 3-0 and Cloud loses to Stephano there's a 3-way tie
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1132
Awesome! Love Naniwa & detest Stephano. Feels a bit weird but fun to cheer against a fellow zerg but its great because since the zerg are supposed to be up in supply everything feels like a come from behind victory.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1133
Lets face it Stephano didnt look as sick as he usually does and Nani is one of the best tosses out there recentley beating very top zergs. The 2nd game Stephano couldnt play his normal game due to Nani denying his great macro game.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#1134
On November 25 2011 19:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:37 bgx wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 mrscheng wrote:
so stephano was a fluke

60-70k $ fluke -_-


Wouldn't be the first time.

FruitDealer comes to mind.


Except that was one tournament at Sc2's release. Stephano has won 3 big tournaments in the last couple of months.
HuK and IdrA crash out early in tournaments all the time, everyone has bad tournaments!

n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1135
Just tuning in just after I almost had a car accident with a gypsy with a horse (Meanwhile in Bulgaria). So ...
"The best two foreigners" down 0:1 against the underdogs, and Dreamhack trolling EG more than MLG. Wow, I've missed a lot :O WTF. Also were the games till now good ?
Yeah, whatever
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1136
Stephano has not been playing as well recently, eventhough he won the UK ipl qualifier (10 000$) against very good players, his games and especially his zvp didn't seem as solid as it did in other tournaments...
I guess some people forgot how to beat pure roach that's why he had some success with this style because it's very safe against early agression, but against a player of the caliber of Naniwa you can't expect them to loose a sentry/blink stalker/colossus/immo fight vs pure roach...
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1137
That map is awful for roach aggression without some serious ling runby dual pronged attacks or overlord drops anyway.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1138
On November 25 2011 19:38 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:37 hugman wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:34 PG13 wrote:
PvZ is the same every time. If protoss gets over 170 Zerg just dies.


If you play a year old style then yeah
Roach Hydra Corruptor sucks unless you max on it by 14 minutes and just GO


Foreigner zvp is just on such a lower level than korean zvp. Foreigner zergs like roach hydra corruptor too much. When koreans do that they actually only really hit timings with it, not play all passive.

I think you never saw Ret or especially Morrow play ZvP
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1139
On November 25 2011 19:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:37 bgx wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 mrscheng wrote:
so stephano was a fluke

60-70k $ fluke -_-


Wouldn't be the first time.

FruitDealer comes to mind.

Ya compare 1 tourney at the start of sc2 to 3 tourneys ~18 months later
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1140
On November 25 2011 19:40 hugman wrote:
I don't think Stephano is out
If Sheth goes 3-0 and Cloud loses to Stephano there's a 3-way tie

Yup, just impossible for both nani and stephano to advance.
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