• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:59
CEST 18:59
KST 01:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy0GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding0Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1434 users

DreamHack Winter 2011 Day 2 - Page 58

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 56 57 58 59 60 299 Next
Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 10:41:44
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1141
Well Stephano didn't seem on top of his game at Dreamhack, both the games yesterday and today were pretty lacklustre. I guess winning that much makes one less hungry, we have seen that quite a lot in starcraft history.
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1142
Naniwa played that last game very well.
HuK couldnt get a solid 4th base up.
It denied him from teching up to BL, investor army.
Also, Stephano doesnt seem up to his normal strength today
Great game by Naniwa though.
Always look on the bright side of life
xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1143
On November 25 2011 19:39 sleepingdog wrote:
dammit, who ninja-reports all the balance-whines before I can...reporting bad posts is the only joy I've left

I feel the same way
A guy can't even casually report posts in a LR thread anymore without others ninjaing D:
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1144
On November 25 2011 19:41 n00b3rt wrote:
Just tuning in just after I almost had a car accident with a gypsy with a horse (Meanwhile in Bulgaria). So ...
"The best two foreigners" down 0:1 against the underdogs, and Dreamhack trolling EG more than MLG. Wow, I've missed a lot :O WTF. Also were the games till now good ?


Between this event and MLG, it's turning out to be a huge mindfuck.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 10:42:55
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1145
Puma is 2-0 in his group.

IdrA is 1-1.

HuK is 1-1.

Orly is 0-2.

All 2-0s.

If HuK 2-0s Orly, as is likely, IdrA's chances of advancing are miniscule - he has to 2-0 Puma to even have a chance in a three-way tie-break. If he drops just one game to Puma, he'll not advance.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 25 2011 10:41 GMT
#1146
@TeamLiquidLIVE: Sheth saves his fifth base which is so hard to hold on Shakuras. ClouD has a tiny army now. Still, marines.

Frown upon it on the forum - do it yourself on twitter. :p
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
November 25 2011 10:42 GMT
#1147
On November 25 2011 19:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:37 bgx wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 mrscheng wrote:
so stephano was a fluke

60-70k $ fluke -_-


Wouldn't be the first time.

FruitDealer comes to mind.

Problem with his statement was more that Stephano is still winning good tournaments.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
November 25 2011 10:42 GMT
#1148
On November 25 2011 19:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:37 bgx wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 mrscheng wrote:
so stephano was a fluke

60-70k $ fluke -_-


Wouldn't be the first time.

FruitDealer comes to mind.


FD wasnt really a fluke, he just stopped practicing all together.

Stephano is no fluke either, hes just over hyped by some people. He may be the highest paid foreigner when it comes to prize money but I would hardly call him the best foreigner.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
November 25 2011 10:42 GMT
#1149
On November 25 2011 19:36 Steamroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:35 jeeeeohn wrote:
WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED MR. BITTER? PROTOSS HAS 60 WORKERS AND ROUGHLY 120 WORTH OF ACTUAL UNITS. NEWSFLASH: TOSS UNITS>ZERG UNITS. IT'S NOT A MIRACLE. IT'S NOT SHOCKING. STOP THE HYPERBOLE. IT'S UTTERLY PREDICTABLE.


all caps rage!


I'm just sick of casters thinking Zerg has this mysterious advantage even though their army is literally half the size of the Protoss army (and half the strength besides). I'm just sick of, "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE NANIWA HELD OFF FIVE ROACHES AND 10 HYDRAS." Day9 was the only one completely bored with that push.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
SolidZeal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States393 Posts
November 25 2011 10:42 GMT
#1150
Great 2nd game by both Naniwa and Stephano, looked like it could have gone either way.
In the clearing stands a boxer and a figher by his trade
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
November 25 2011 10:42 GMT
#1151
On November 25 2011 19:40 Morale wrote:
Lets face it Stephano didnt look as sick as he usually does and Nani is one of the best tosses out there recentley beating very top zergs. The 2nd game Stephano couldnt play his normal game due to Nani denying his great macro game.


We don't have to forget about the mental status either!

Once you manage to beat Nestea.....TWICE (!)....then I guess you have to feel really, really good about your PvZ. As in every competitive sport, confidence is of tremendous importance.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 10:48:40
November 25 2011 10:42 GMT
#1152
On November 25 2011 19:39 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Wheres the terrifying quick hive + spine play ive seen stephano play so well?
Yeah, he played incredibly well up to 200 vs 140, then decided to make himself a coffee or something, and just staled, banked useless minerals, didn't tech, threw away countless armies -- and even after all that he could have won the final battles, but he was pulling drones prematurely, so he basically killed himself. It's absurd to see this game as "Stephano getting figured out", he was outplaying with ease, and then stopped playing for no apparent reason.

He did a "Nestea vs MVP" thing, where he could have won with his left foot, but instead something happened and he suddenly made all the only moves that could have possibly lost him the game. (I don't think Nestea lost that game on purpose, by the way, and same for Stephano, but I have no idea what happened in their heads in these situations)
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 10:43:52
November 25 2011 10:42 GMT
#1153
On November 25 2011 19:38 Sareth wrote:
Whats going on at Cloud vs Sheth?


1-0 Sheth atm, probably gonna be 2-0!
Toast and coffe
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
November 25 2011 10:42 GMT
#1154
On November 25 2011 19:40 hugman wrote:
I don't think Stephano is out
If Sheth goes 3-0 and Cloud loses to Stephano there's a 3-way tie

no, because he didnt won a single map.
he has no chance to continue.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
November 25 2011 10:43 GMT
#1155
On November 25 2011 19:41 Seronei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:40 hugman wrote:
I don't think Stephano is out
If Sheth goes 3-0 and Cloud loses to Stephano there's a 3-way tie

Yup, just impossible for both nani and stephano to advance.


Nope, because even if Naniwa lost 0-2, and Stephano beat Cloud 2-0, Naniwa would advance due to maps won(3-4 vs 2-4)
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
November 25 2011 10:43 GMT
#1156
On November 25 2011 19:37 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:37 Rammstorm wrote:
Stephano got figured out + he ain't playing that good. Naniwa w the 1 build to go. huK getting pwnt by PUMA, and didn't see Idra vs HuK was it 1 sided ?


yeah it was. game 1 idra lost to DT's plain and simple, game 2 he tried a roach expansion cancel all in and failed. Not good and nothing to learn from not even entertaining :/.


Thank you for the info.what a bummer.TT .., clearly we need more koreans to step up the skill lvl and bring good games
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 25 2011 10:43 GMT
#1157
On November 25 2011 19:36 mrscheng wrote:
so stephano was a fluke


He's won three major international tournaments in like 1-2 months
Losing here doesn't mean anything, he's already proved himself. IdrA's gonna go out, does he suck too?
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
November 25 2011 10:43 GMT
#1158
Some of you dissing Stephano is pathetic he has won 3 major tournament in a month. No player got 100% win ratio. He is still the best foreign zerg by a mile he just didnt play good today and thats it. Typical NA and there hate towards Stephano
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
November 25 2011 10:43 GMT
#1159
On November 25 2011 19:39 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:37 bgx wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 mrscheng wrote:
so stephano was a fluke

60-70k $ fluke -_-


Wouldn't be the first time.

FruitDealer comes to mind.

i wouldnt say fruitdealer was a fluke...
Stork[gm]
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
November 25 2011 10:43 GMT
#1160
Idra will probably not advance either, does that make him a fluke too?
Prev 1 56 57 58 59 60 299 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .310
TKL 161
BRAT_OK 55
mouzHeroMarine 45
MindelVK 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3453
Jaedong 1180
Shuttle 801
ggaemo 359
Snow 298
Mini 275
Larva 212
Rush 158
hero 149
Soulkey 145
[ Show more ]
PianO 96
Dewaltoss 69
Sharp 53
Hyun 29
soO 22
scan(afreeca) 22
Terrorterran 20
NaDa 9
Sexy 9
Dota 2
Gorgc7924
420jenkins258
Counter-Strike
fl0m2214
pashabiceps1860
byalli523
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King83
Other Games
FrodaN1391
Grubby1053
B2W.Neo990
Beastyqt740
RotterdaM241
C9.Mang0120
ArmadaUGS107
KnowMe75
Trikslyr54
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Shameless 36
• Adnapsc2 3
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 10
• blackmanpl 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota259
League of Legends
• Nemesis3400
Other Games
• Shiphtur151
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 1m
The PondCast
17h 1m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 7h
WardiTV Team League
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
OSC
3 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.