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Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
November 24 2011 12:30 GMT
#761
On November 24 2011 21:27 sleepingdog wrote:
so, why hasn't select taken like the whole map by now?


If he takes a base or the map like you suggesting he is going to be give thorzain an opening, however small. He was 4 base to thorzains 2 - 2.5. No need to take any more
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HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
November 24 2011 12:30 GMT
#762
On November 24 2011 21:28 Seeker wrote:
Oh geez.... that game..... Select completely outplayed him :/


Not really the map position favors select. But Thorzain should never have alowed Select to get tanks below his natural. So yea Select played well and did what the player positions invited
Carush
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
November 24 2011 12:31 GMT
#763
On November 24 2011 21:30 MikeG wrote:
God that headphone commercial music is amazing.

that orange and black headset looks even more amazing i might just get dat
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 24 2011 12:31 GMT
#764
On November 24 2011 21:29 defteH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:28 Terminal wrote:
Tasteless looks shattered. Poor guy


Dudes got an eye infection! Should have read the thread bro!


god damn it i hate it when people say bro.

his eye infection looks bad to me as well.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
StanzA
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada478 Posts
November 24 2011 12:31 GMT
#765
On November 24 2011 21:28 KinQuh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:27 february wrote:
On November 24 2011 21:23 Phenrock wrote:
Let me make a comparison with other sports such as football (soccer). There are teams that play negatively too. It's a legitimate tactic, so if a team wants to only defend and then counter attack, it's their choice to do so. Much the same with Goody. It's not entertaining for some, can be entertaining for others.

The point is to win.

Unless you make extra rules to promote more aggresive play, you can't fault what Goody is doing. If you don't like Goody's play, simply don't watch, there are plenty of other games on.

With regards to better players, well that's down to the players. If Goody really isn't that good of a player, why does he keep winning then? We're no where near the perfect player yet, and I'm not sure if we'll get one anytime soon.

He'll win with poor strategies as long as the metagame allows. I don't believe he has the ability to become a top-level progamer by committing himself so heavily to one style because his handspeed limits him so heavily. Has he really won anything against the best there is?

Yeah, if he proves me wrong, great, I look forward to his games. But I think it's more likely that his rote macro turtle style sees him fall off the scene completely.

I dont believe you have clue what you are talking about.If you are saying that GoOdy is bad then what NA is? Because you have like Slush and incontrol that are hanging in MLG without winning a game.

Slush is a very flexible player and has put up decent results in competition. Incontrol has struggled for a very long time. My point is that players are going to have to get better or they will be left behind by more talented players. I don't think Goody is a talented player given the way he has played for over a year. I don't know why this is difficult to understand.
oz fighting FOREVER! ~ hemlock.695 stanza.295~ root4root
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
November 24 2011 12:31 GMT
#766
On November 24 2011 21:29 dragoonier wrote:
It looks like Thorzain didn't train that much in the last few weeks, otherwiese I don't his huge macro leaks.. He also was pretty disappointing in the Uk ipl qualifier.


Yeah, he doesn't seem too interested or prepared. In a recent interview he did say he didn't know Select was in his group until very recently, he didn't have time or even bother to prepare. Hate to say it, but I think he may lose this series.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 24 2011 12:32 GMT
#767
On November 24 2011 21:31 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:29 defteH wrote:
On November 24 2011 21:28 Terminal wrote:
Tasteless looks shattered. Poor guy


Dudes got an eye infection! Should have read the thread bro!


god damn it i hate it when people say bro.

his eye infection looks bad to me as well.


Hey bro, don't hate bro.

I woke up at the best possible time. Best match so far IMO.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
November 24 2011 12:32 GMT
#768
On November 24 2011 21:30 Quintum_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:27 sleepingdog wrote:
so, why hasn't select taken like the whole map by now?


If he takes a base or the map like you suggesting he is going to be give thorzain an opening, however small. He was 4 base to thorzains 2 - 2.5. No need to take any more


well, he won it anyways quickly enough...but he was floating 2,5k when I was writing that....I always get mad when I see this. Maybe it's because my overall macro is terrible, but I hardly ever go above 1k even in lategame. Even if I'm just randomly spamming cannons/gateways, there's always something useful to do even with minerals.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
November 24 2011 12:32 GMT
#769
On November 24 2011 21:29 defteH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:28 Terminal wrote:
Tasteless looks shattered. Poor guy


Dudes got an eye infection! Should have read the thread bro!

Or should have just let you tell me. Thanks buddy dude bro guy.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
November 24 2011 12:33 GMT
#770
I just realised why Tastosis dont sound like in the GSL, the background music is missing
Romanes eunt domus
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 24 2011 12:33 GMT
#771
omg lol, idk why but that joke made me laugh quite a lot, Interesting decision on a cc in these positions by thorzain
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 24 2011 12:34 GMT
#772
On November 24 2011 21:27 SmoKim wrote:
33k viewers at 13:27 :o amazing!!!


I don't think it's 13:27 for all viewers. :p
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Killcani
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden448 Posts
November 24 2011 12:34 GMT
#773
On November 24 2011 21:32 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:30 Quintum_ wrote:
On November 24 2011 21:27 sleepingdog wrote:
so, why hasn't select taken like the whole map by now?


If he takes a base or the map like you suggesting he is going to be give thorzain an opening, however small. He was 4 base to thorzains 2 - 2.5. No need to take any more


well, he won it anyways quickly enough...but he was floating 2,5k when I was writing that....I always get mad when I see this. Maybe it's because my overall macro is terrible, but I hardly ever go above 1k even in lategame. Even if I'm just randomly spamming cannons/gateways, there's always something useful to do even with minerals.


he knew he had won so he didnt care
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 24 2011 12:35 GMT
#774
On November 24 2011 21:34 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:27 SmoKim wrote:
33k viewers at 13:27 :o amazing!!!


I don't think it's 13:27 for all viewers. :p


Yea, it's still 7:35 here, 4 in cali
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Surriel
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom198 Posts
November 24 2011 12:35 GMT
#775
On November 24 2011 21:27 february wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:23 Phenrock wrote:
Let me make a comparison with other sports such as football (soccer). There are teams that play negatively too. It's a legitimate tactic, so if a team wants to only defend and then counter attack, it's their choice to do so. Much the same with Goody. It's not entertaining for some, can be entertaining for others.

The point is to win.

Unless you make extra rules to promote more aggresive play, you can't fault what Goody is doing. If you don't like Goody's play, simply don't watch, there are plenty of other games on.

With regards to better players, well that's down to the players. If Goody really isn't that good of a player, why does he keep winning then? We're no where near the perfect player yet, and I'm not sure if we'll get one anytime soon.

He'll win with poor strategies as long as the metagame allows. I don't believe he has the ability to become a top-level progamer by committing himself so heavily to one style because his handspeed limits him so heavily. Has he really won anything against the best there is?

Yeah, if he proves me wrong, great, I look forward to his games. But I think it's more likely that his rote macro turtle style sees him fall off the scene completely.


You are extremely unfair in your assessment. Aside from say Naniwa and Huk, who has won against the best there is (Nestea, MVP)? Maybe DRG and Stephano in this competition, are you going to say the rest of the participants are terrible too?

You say Goody has played the same style over a year, yet he is still have great success with it, aside from TvP where meching is terrible. But that is probably going to change comes HoTS. If anything I think Goody will have more success in it.

“I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.” Bruce Lee.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 24 2011 12:36 GMT
#776
elevator in by SeleCT could catch thorzain off guard
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
November 24 2011 12:37 GMT
#777
On November 24 2011 21:32 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:31 Gamegene wrote:
On November 24 2011 21:29 defteH wrote:
On November 24 2011 21:28 Terminal wrote:
Tasteless looks shattered. Poor guy


Dudes got an eye infection! Should have read the thread bro!


god damn it i hate it when people say bro.

his eye infection looks bad to me as well.


Hey bro, don't hate bro.

I woke up at the best possible time. Best match so far IMO.


You missed white-ra's epic special tactics.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
November 24 2011 12:38 GMT
#778
On November 24 2011 21:27 february wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:23 Phenrock wrote:
Let me make a comparison with other sports such as football (soccer). There are teams that play negatively too. It's a legitimate tactic, so if a team wants to only defend and then counter attack, it's their choice to do so. Much the same with Goody. It's not entertaining for some, can be entertaining for others.

The point is to win.

Unless you make extra rules to promote more aggresive play, you can't fault what Goody is doing. If you don't like Goody's play, simply don't watch, there are plenty of other games on.

With regards to better players, well that's down to the players. If Goody really isn't that good of a player, why does he keep winning then? We're no where near the perfect player yet, and I'm not sure if we'll get one anytime soon.

He'll win with poor strategies as long as the metagame allows.


Thats bull.
He was going mech in TvT long before anyone else, and back then everyone was calling it "poor strategy".
Mech is standard in TvT nowadays (bio is still the more standard i guess).

Your logic is flawed, if he is a bad player like you assume, and his strategies are poor, then he shouldnt be able to win at all.
His mech style is strong and thats why he wins, but i agree that he isnt the best player.
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
November 24 2011 12:38 GMT
#779
HAHA! "The one who did drugs" You are killing me Tasteless, someone give this man a stage.
Sensez
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)18 Posts
November 24 2011 12:38 GMT
#780
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