MLG Providence Day 2 Live Report Thread - Page 675

On November 20 2011 21:54 Yaki wrote:

I don't think so but you just have to get a free silver membership pass anyway and you'll be able to watch the VODs.

On November 20 2011 21:54 Defacer wrote:


I'm sorry, but a guy that pouts his way into getting a bathroom break, than watching replays of his opponents opening, than complaining how his opponent didn't spawn where he expected him too when they restart ... how is that a legitimate win?

Frankly, if IdrA did the same thing, people would be burning him at the stake.

Naniwa is certainly a good player, but I think a lot of people have a legitimate beef with his conduct during that last game.

Imagine if it was the last 24 seconds of a basketball game; play starts, and after six seconds pass the team with the ball insisted on restarting the shot clock because one of their players wants to pee really, really bad. And then complains that the opposing team isn't running the exact same defense when they start playing again.

Ridiculous.

I'll shut up about it now, I'll just wait until people closer to the situation chime in on SOTG or Live on Three etc.

On November 20 2011 21:54 Defacer wrote:


I'm sorry, but a guy that pouts his way into getting a bathroom break, than watching replays of his opponents opening, than complaining how his opponent didn't spawn where he expected him too when they restart ... how is that a legitimate win?

Frankly, if IdrA did the same thing, people would be burning him at the stake.

Naniwa is certainly a good player, but I think a lot of people have a legitimate beef with his conduct during that last game.

Imagine if it was the last 24 seconds of a basketball game; play starts, and after six seconds pass the team with the ball insisted on restarting the shot clock because one of their players wants to pee really, really bad. And then complains that the opposing team isn't running the exact same defense when they start playing again.

Ridiculous.

I'll shut up about it now, I'll just wait until people closer to the situation chime in on SOTG or Live on Three etc.

On November 20 2011 21:53 Otori wrote:
Is there a way to watch last nights matches without being MLG premium member?

On November 20 2011 21:54 Defacer wrote:
Imagine if it was the last 24 seconds of a basketball game; play starts, and after six seconds pass the team with the ball insisted on restarting the shot clock because one of their players wants to pee really, really bad. And then complains that the opposing team isn't running the exact same defense when they start playing again.

On November 20 2011 22:06 Otori wrote:
Could anyone post some info on how to obtain free silver MLG pass? I can't find any free silver on their site, still says 9.99 for 3 months

On November 20 2011 22:00 zeru wrote:

1. awful analogy.
2. you can see the build order in the score screen even
3. all accusations are based on heresay
4. even if he did watch the replay there's no rule against it.

if anything it's pretty stupid that mlg didnt let naniwa go to the bathroom before the game started when he first asked for it

On November 20 2011 21:14 TigerKarl wrote:
Instead of creating hatred in the community, please discuss my quality find of the Bear Captain with Pirate Hat in the Her0 vs. Ret game:

On November 20 2011 22:12 Defacer wrote:


1. Analogy is fine. If the opening and spawn positions didn't matter than Naniwa wouldn't have insisted on restarting the game, would he?

2. just because Blizzard allows you to see the build order on the score screen doesn't mean you should be able to. Again, spawn locations and timings are critical.

3. there's enough accounts and circumstantial evidence to confirm this.

4. Just because there isn't 'a rule' doesn't mean I should give credit where credit isn't due. Is Naniwa a good player? Yes. Does this game prove he's a better player than Nestea? Not really. Did Naniwa manipulate the referees to allow him to execute his preferred strategy. Arguably, yes.

This happens a lot of sports. Jordon, Lebron, Shaq -- all notorious whiners that got away with stretching the rules. It doesn't mean they weren't great players, but I don't see why I have acknowledge how Naniwa won 'fair and square' when he obviously didn't.

On November 20 2011 22:00 SuperStyle wrote:


There is your mistake, thinking Idra would be treated the same, when the fact is that if Idra did what Nani did he would be praised for "Awesome" tactics and be called a genius.
From all people that qq on forums about balance and players, 85% of them are zerg fanbois, 10% are protoss and 5% are terran.
No matter how badly zerg players behave they will always be more praised then other 2 races, Idra is THE living proof of that.

On November 20 2011 22:22 Hubris wrote:
What's more sad than the people crying over race/players are the people stating that losing respect for naniwa is inherently race/fan boy related. This is simply not the case. Nestea played bad, sure. Is it about balance? No. Is it about him beating favorites? I was happy for him and argued his case for beating them, so no.

What it is, is poor sportsmanship. He called another respectful player an idiot after winning via all in style (arrogance is never liked) on an action that for intents and purposes naniwa was behind on. Nestea lost that match due to his follow up, Naniwa overreacted to the mind games, but had a decent follow up. Still no reason to call him or his style idotic. Seems very arrogant, especially after losing the second game there, which made it clear it was nestea's foul on army placement and read of Naniwa's build that cost him that game. Not overall skill. Then, the guy has the nerve to pause an international tourny with thousands watching because he didn't understand the map rules. Im sorry, this is unprofessional as well. If you're a high tier player, you should know those rules, as someone from MLG already pointed out. After that, he was accused of watching the reply to see if he went hatch first, which is huge for cannon rush tactics. He also BMed the tourny he was in, while BMing the audience by freezing the match ups so he could cannon rush. Then, after all his BM and arrogance, he has the nerve to thumbs down Nestea as if he still has any credibility from the matches. I normally cheer for foreigners, but today I think we've all seen why Nestea/MVP are code S level and why Naniwa is code b/a. There was no need for any of that from Naniwa. The fact it all happened back to back takes away from his results this tourny, his clan, and from his respect as a player from a large portion of the community.

On November 20 2011 21:34 Defacer wrote:


Oh yeah, that's what happened. Anyone who thinks Naniwa's last game was legit is kidding themselves. What a farce.