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btw are they playing Pretender before and after each forGG game ?
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On November 14 2011 20:20 BuzZoo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:14 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:10 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:08 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:07 demonik187 wrote:
Sase will be so much better when he gets his nerves under control. isn't he former wc3 pro? How is that relevant? I was under the impression progamers (of all games) had most of their nerve issues solved if they were famous enough to be known? Not even close the truth! Counterexample? you watched BW, do I really have to? I remember first TV game chokes and finals chokes; not usually qualifier chokes? Note that I said 'most nerve issues'. Perhaps the poster before me is correct in saying that sase isn't comfortable in this environment. This whole thread tonight is an exercise in hypocrisy. TL admins participating in extensive debate about who was a better BW player out of forGG/MVP when MVP isn't even playing, all while the next game is going on in a LR thread. Irrelevant discussion like that is usually hammered down with impunity. I'll pretend that the comment about Sase isn't the typical BW elitist attitude for the minute, but do note the success of foreign W3 players vs foreign SC2 players.
Bitter about something?
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On November 14 2011 20:21 NepTuniO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:17 Hierarch wrote:On November 14 2011 20:16 Tidus Mino wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Zzoram wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 kaetor wrote:
Ahh he had a lot of time before JYP's blink was done, probaly should have made the most of that!
Though he was pretty much screwed because of the choke anyway.
JYP is one of the better Koreans, so not too bad losing to him. Think Naniwa has a good chance of advancing, though it seems like foreigners never play up to standard vs Koreans. Or maybe Koreans usually play better than foreigners, and foreigners keep using excuses instead of getting better. Only Huk and Idra can hang with Koreans these days and the results prove it. *Cough* Stephano *Cough* ^.^ Sigh, wait till Stephano competes in Korea, and people like to gloss over the fact that Stephano didn't make it very far at all at MLG orlando lol? he came from the open bracket and got that far. the amount of Bo3 he won in a row is amazing, and you say that? wowwoow
Sigh again, another fanatic. How many notable players did he beat? Players have come out of the open bracket and had much better showings, ones that comes off the top of my head? Ganzi, SaSe, MKP
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On November 14 2011 20:19 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:17 Hierarch wrote:On November 14 2011 20:16 Tidus Mino wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Zzoram wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 kaetor wrote:
Ahh he had a lot of time before JYP's blink was done, probaly should have made the most of that!
Though he was pretty much screwed because of the choke anyway.
JYP is one of the better Koreans, so not too bad losing to him. Think Naniwa has a good chance of advancing, though it seems like foreigners never play up to standard vs Koreans. Or maybe Koreans usually play better than foreigners, and foreigners keep using excuses instead of getting better. Only Huk and Idra can hang with Koreans these days and the results prove it. *Cough* Stephano *Cough* ^.^ Sigh, wait till Stephano competes in Korea, and people like to gloss over the fact that Stephano didn't make it very far at all at MLG orlando He was at MLG Orlando? I didn't even know that. Who did he lose to?
He lost to oGsTheSTC 0-2 in the open bracket, got into championship bracket from the losers, and then lost to boxer 1-2.
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On November 14 2011 20:13 namste wrote:
Man that was disappointing, been reading all the hype about Sase and his amazing control and whatnot and then he loses in the first round :/. Guess foreigners need to be placed directly into Code S finals before they take GSL seriously and practice hard and properly.
I can assure you, SaSe trains very hard. To suggest that he doesn't take GSL seriously is a bit unfair.
Keep in mind that Kim has been quite ill the past week. He said earlier today that he definitely wasn't feeling 100%.
On November 14 2011 20:22 Lunares wrote:
He lost to oGsTheSTC 0-2 in the open bracket, got into championship bracket from the losers, and then lost to boxer 1-2.
Incorrect. He went undefeated through the Open Bracket, went 4-1 in his pool, and then lost to Boxer 1-2. He didn't even play TheSTC.
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On November 14 2011 20:21 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:20 tuestresfat wrote:On November 14 2011 20:18 Hierarch wrote:On November 14 2011 20:18 Sc2Null wrote:
1 game away from never having to see hongun again lol..shame for a 2-time semi-finalist It's a long time coming, Ensnare and HongUn out in the same GSL? Thank you GOMTV that's the plus about this system, but if mkp and drg get knocked out then fuck this They can always get back through MLG 
Id rather not bet on that, Providence is absurdly stacked and you need to be top 3 which isnt exactly easy. Yea sure MMA and MC made it but still. Its not something Id bank on.
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United Kingdom12070 Posts
On November 14 2011 20:20 tuestresfat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:18 Hierarch wrote:On November 14 2011 20:18 Sc2Null wrote:
1 game away from never having to see hongun again lol..shame for a 2-time semi-finalist It's a long time coming, Ensnare and HongUn out in the same GSL? Thank you GOMTV that's the plus about this system, but if mkp and drg get knocked out then fuck this
To be fair to MKP, he's been playing really really greedy and people in the GSL learnt to punish him.
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Just need Nada and Lucky to pull through for a perfect Liquibet.
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On November 14 2011 20:19 Montana[TK] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:18 Zzoram wrote:On November 14 2011 20:17 Plexa wrote:
I have a good feeling about nani!
Naniwa hwaiting!~ Lucky 2-0'd him the last time they met in Code A so I'm not feeling very good about Nani. Hopefully he really upped his PvZ. he got knocked out of Blizzcon by losing 2 PvZs so I'm not too confident
But the 2 pvs were against nesstea and sen. Forgot to mention that part. AND the game vs nestea was extremely close and he beat sen in the upper bracket of blizzcon and he destroyed dimaga at blizzcon as well. Tell the whole story please =F
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why is forgg called the pretender?
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On November 14 2011 20:21 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:19 evolute wrote:
SONG: Brown Eyed Girls - Sixth Sense I really like this Evolute guy. He's been constantly letting us know the group and the name of the song each time kpop comes on. Thx Evolute 
he knows his stuff 
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 14 2011 20:22 disciple wrote:
btw are they playing Pretender before and after each forGG game ?
I didn't notice anything.
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On November 14 2011 20:21 NepTuniO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:17 Hierarch wrote:On November 14 2011 20:16 Tidus Mino wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Zzoram wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 kaetor wrote:
Ahh he had a lot of time before JYP's blink was done, probaly should have made the most of that!
Though he was pretty much screwed because of the choke anyway.
JYP is one of the better Koreans, so not too bad losing to him. Think Naniwa has a good chance of advancing, though it seems like foreigners never play up to standard vs Koreans. Or maybe Koreans usually play better than foreigners, and foreigners keep using excuses instead of getting better. Only Huk and Idra can hang with Koreans these days and the results prove it. *Cough* Stephano *Cough* ^.^ Sigh, wait till Stephano competes in Korea, and people like to gloss over the fact that Stephano didn't make it very far at all at MLG orlando lol? he came from the open bracket and got that far. the amount of Bo3 he won in a row is amazing, and you say that? wowwoow
Yeah the MLG open bracket is crazy. Providence will be even worse.
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On November 14 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:20 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:10 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:08 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:07 demonik187 wrote:
Sase will be so much better when he gets his nerves under control. isn't he former wc3 pro? How is that relevant? I was under the impression progamers (of all games) had most of their nerve issues solved if they were famous enough to be known? Not even close the truth! Counterexample? you watched BW, do I really have to? I remember first TV game chokes and finals chokes; not usually qualifier chokes? Note that I said 'most nerve issues'. Perhaps the poster before me is correct in saying that sase isn't comfortable in this environment. This whole thread tonight is an exercise in hypocrisy. TL admins participating in extensive debate about who was a better BW player out of forGG/MVP when MVP isn't even playing, all while the next game is going on in a LR thread. Irrelevant discussion like that is usually hammered down with impunity. I'll pretend that the comment about Sase isn't the typical BW elitist attitude for the minute, but do note the success of foreign W3 players vs foreign SC2 players. Eh? I'd say the same thing if people said idra was eliminated because of nerves. I think you have a bone to pick with me/TL for some reason  you've been harping on about it all night!
Its clearly jealously over your icon
Which is making me hungry....damn you Plexa!
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On November 14 2011 20:20 JesusOurSaviour wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:18 Hierarch wrote:On November 14 2011 20:18 Sc2Null wrote:
1 game away from never having to see hongun again lol..shame for a 2-time semi-finalist It's a long time coming, Ensnare and HongUn out in the same GSL? Thank you GOMTV Please, some love for the most innovative (/ daring) protoss we have in the GSL. Admittedly very scrappy in general-play, he has brought much joy and excitement to the GSL. That said, Farewell HongUn
...Building carriers doesn't make you innovative...it's not like he actually created a standard carrier build that worked. MC is the most innovative protoss by far.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 14 2011 20:23 dapierow wrote:
why is forgg called the pretender?
It was the themesong for the MSL he won, and everytime he played in the MSL they played the song iirc!
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On November 14 2011 20:19 Montana[TK] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:18 Zzoram wrote:On November 14 2011 20:17 Plexa wrote:
I have a good feeling about nani!
Naniwa hwaiting!~ Lucky 2-0'd him the last time they met in Code A so I'm not feeling very good about Nani. Hopefully he really upped his PvZ. he got knocked out of Blizzcon by losing 2 PvZs so I'm not too confident
But he took a game off NesTea. Hmmm...
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On November 14 2011 20:21 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:20 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:12 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Waxangel wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:10 BuzZoo wrote:On November 14 2011 20:08 Plexa wrote:On November 14 2011 20:07 demonik187 wrote:
Sase will be so much better when he gets his nerves under control. isn't he former wc3 pro? How is that relevant? I was under the impression progamers (of all games) had most of their nerve issues solved if they were famous enough to be known? Not even close the truth! Counterexample? you watched BW, do I really have to? I remember first TV game chokes and finals chokes; not usually qualifier chokes? Note that I said 'most nerve issues'. Perhaps the poster before me is correct in saying that sase isn't comfortable in this environment. This whole thread tonight is an exercise in hypocrisy. TL admins participating in extensive debate about who was a better BW player out of forGG/MVP when MVP isn't even playing, all while the next game is going on in a LR thread. Irrelevant discussion like that is usually hammered down with impunity. I'll pretend that the comment about Sase isn't the typical BW elitist attitude for the minute, but do note the success of foreign W3 players vs foreign SC2 players. Eh? I'd say the same thing if people said idra was eliminated because of nerves. I think you have a bone to pick with me/TL for some reason you've been harping on about it all night!
Please address my first point if you want to have a leg to stand on.
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On November 14 2011 20:19 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2011 20:19 Vindicare605 wrote:On November 14 2011 20:17 Hierarch wrote:On November 14 2011 20:16 Tidus Mino wrote:On November 14 2011 20:14 Zzoram wrote:On November 14 2011 20:11 kaetor wrote:
Ahh he had a lot of time before JYP's blink was done, probaly should have made the most of that!
Though he was pretty much screwed because of the choke anyway.
JYP is one of the better Koreans, so not too bad losing to him. Think Naniwa has a good chance of advancing, though it seems like foreigners never play up to standard vs Koreans. Or maybe Koreans usually play better than foreigners, and foreigners keep using excuses instead of getting better. Only Huk and Idra can hang with Koreans these days and the results prove it. *Cough* Stephano *Cough* ^.^ Sigh, wait till Stephano competes in Korea, and people like to gloss over the fact that Stephano didn't make it very far at all at MLG orlando Got knocked out by Boxer no less. I have nothing against Stephano I actually like his play a lot, but his fans rival Idra's in fanatic devotion. Same, I like his quirky play but the level of fanaticism that follows him is obscene sometimes
Right now it seems it's the opposite side that is fanatic. The question wasn't "is Stephano the best zerg in the world", it was "can Stephano hang with the Koreans?". Anyone who right answers no to that question isn't being fair.
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On November 14 2011 20:23 Plexa wrote:It was the themesong for the MSL he won, and everytime he played in the MSL they played the song iirc!
wow never would have expected that lol...
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