On November 11 2011 15:17 Azzur wrote: MVP being very smart - showing a cheesy strat in a relatively minor tournament will make his opponents think twice in future games!
I was thinking the same thing Next protoss will think twice if he wants to skip robo+obs
On November 11 2011 15:16 sechkie wrote: I'm sorry Wolf that is completely ridiculous... mvp being scared of oz....
A lot of terran dont want to go lategame TVP even though most viewers think otherwise, MVP is weak TVP so I actually doubt he wants to go lategame TVP especially vs Oz.
On November 11 2011 15:16 sechkie wrote: I'm sorry Wolf that is completely ridiculous... mvp being scared of oz....
A lot of terran dont want to go lategame TVP even though most viewers think otherwise, MVP is weak TVP so I actually doubt he wants to go lategame TVP especially vs Oz.
I would have to agree. Protoss got buffed late game as well with EMP being nerfed.
On November 11 2011 15:16 sechkie wrote: I'm sorry Wolf that is completely ridiculous... mvp being scared of oz....
A lot of terran dont want to go lategame TVP even though most viewers think otherwise, MVP is weak TVP so I actually doubt he wants to go lategame TVP especially vs Oz.
Yup, it's true. More protoss than Oz. I was thinking that if he has to play against protoss in Code S he'd be bringing out some 1-1-1 or aggressive BO so to see him do so here isn't a surprise.
Smart, patient defense by Oz. I really don't like when MVP goes into 1 base allin game mode (eg, when he played vs MMA in the MLG invitational finals).
On November 11 2011 15:28 AndAgain wrote: Is the free stream quality worse than usual? I can't follow this game at all.
Its 350 kbps so i think its the usual SQ quality
I never watch free stream except for special events so i couldnt say it looks ok to me. My screen res is only 1366 though. Try lowering the res of the monitor to reduce pixelation and full screen it? its not great but its followable for me.
On November 11 2011 15:34 pdd wrote: Mvp back to his 1-1-1-ing antics.... I wonder whether the Protoss buff hurt his TvP too much.
Just remember this is a smaller tournament. Given that there are still 5 Ps left in the GSL, I doubt he wants to reveal his go-to TvP strats. Looks like he wanted a freewin instead actually being clueless on what to do.
On November 11 2011 15:34 pdd wrote: Mvp back to his 1-1-1-ing antics.... I wonder whether the Protoss buff hurt his TvP too much.
EDIT: Missed the 2nd CC but he's still going for that tank composition in TvP.
taeja, who has one of the best TvP said on his stream yesterday Protoss was trash and there was no way to win against HT + collosus late game. then proceeded to win 5 games in a row with protoss on korean ladder.
so yeah, MVP probably has the same vs Protoss mindset.
On November 11 2011 15:34 pdd wrote: Mvp back to his 1-1-1-ing antics.... I wonder whether the Protoss buff hurt his TvP too much.
Just remember this is a smaller tournament. Given that there are still 5 Ps left in the GSL, I doubt he wants to reveal his go-to TvP strats. Looks like he wanted a freewin instead actually being clueless on what to do.
This is entirely possible its the smarter overall decision from MVP tbh
On November 11 2011 15:39 ZeromuS wrote: oz wtf are you doing attacking into buildings in front of tanks? ..
What he should've done? once you let the terran set up the contain I feel like it's basically GG. I guess he could've tried to build a warp prism and elevator his zealots but I don't know if he had enough time.
On November 11 2011 15:42 canikizu wrote: I thought Mvp is the Conscience Terran who will not go 1-1-1
With the recent Protoss buffs , i doubt he now has any bad feelings about 1-1-1 anymore. You cannot allow Protoss to completely build up his infrastructure without at least doing damage. And stim in most cases is too late for hindering the toss. So you need tanks to do so . They aren't good in lategame situations but great early.
People questioning MVP for all-inning should note that most-if not all protoss players love hitting all-in timings as well. Your hero MC won 2 GSLs with it for crying out loud. Sometimes you want free wins and you do dirty strats. That's starcraft man. Even Flash does it when he knows he's better than everyone at macro games (well except for Jaedong of course ).
Pro: I'm impressed cause he shows a SICK strategy in the first game, and then completely DOMINATED the third game.
Con He really didn't help out the notion that all Ts are OP and gay.... mainly because his uses of banshee and ravens and marines, and tanks, and the 1/1/1 is guaranteed to piss off some ppl here :[
Damn Oz's play was really impressive. I think he should've actually won that game. He should've went before that wall completed in my opinion. But seriously, he's probably one of the best Protoss right now.
why archons, he would have had like 6 immortals total instead though it would mean less zealots too, but still if he had that many immortals he could easily easily easily take down all those bunkers + tanks
I think Oz has more than enough time to get colossus out. And may be 2-3 colossi are enough with blink to break out of that easily. He just tech up so hard on both dt and HTs, blink and charge as well. No wonder why he didn't have any units to fight at all.
On November 11 2011 15:42 Trsjnica wrote: Pretty boring series (at least as a Zerg player)--it was all just timing attacks and no macro games.
After the EMP Nerf and Toss buff. Going macro in a TvP is just asking to get rolled by death ball. You literally have to play perfectly to win and if you lose just 1 engagement the Protoss will stay ahead and can't possibly lose.
i also wonder why not just snipe the Raven and then pull back what's left and send 1 DT at a time? he only had 1 raven and no turrets yet. His raven was sort of in front of his bunkers and out in the open. I guess OZ wouldn't be able to know if there was a 2nd raven?
On November 11 2011 15:42 Kettchup wrote: Just a poor tech path for Oz there. The Twilight/Archive/Shrine did almost nothing.
Actually he lost when he tried to fight down the ramp into a low ground wall in with tanks behind it.
Nah, he wasn't breaking that contain with his current army regardless of how he engaged it. It was over once the contain went up.
He either needed colossus to out range things, a number of immortals to quickly break through or to prevent the contain from going up in the first place. The reason he wasn't able to do any of that was because of all the useless tech he got.
On November 11 2011 15:42 Trsjnica wrote: Pretty boring series (at least as a Zerg player)--it was all just timing attacks and no macro games.
After the EMP Nerf and Toss buff. Going macro in a TvP is just asking to get rolled by death ball. You literally have to play perfectly to win and if you lose just 1 engagement the Protoss will stay ahead and can't possibly lose.
Terran just whined the same way when GSL introduced the new large maps back in the beginning of GSL code S seasons. But they still kept winning macro games anyway.
Also people who say tanks are not viable vs protoss are just idiots who just a+ move and siege their tanks and expect to come out on top every time. I think by now everyone should know that as long as you can position your tanks well and have enough units to hold the line, tanks are quiet viable in TvP.
On November 11 2011 15:42 Trsjnica wrote: Pretty boring series (at least as a Zerg player)--it was all just timing attacks and no macro games.
After the EMP Nerf and Toss buff. Going macro in a TvP is just asking to get rolled by death ball. You literally have to play perfectly to win and if you lose just 1 engagement the Protoss will stay ahead and can't possibly lose.
Terran just whined the same way when GSL introduced the new large maps back in the beginning of GSL code S seasons. But they still kept winning macro games anyway.
On November 11 2011 15:42 Trsjnica wrote: Pretty boring series (at least as a Zerg player)--it was all just timing attacks and no macro games.
After the EMP Nerf and Toss buff. Going macro in a TvP is just asking to get rolled by death ball. You literally have to play perfectly to win and if you lose just 1 engagement the Protoss will stay ahead and can't possibly lose.
You sound like avilo and his doomsday prediction for TvZ back in GSL Season 3!
On November 11 2011 15:54 Hier wrote: Can someone translate the conversations between the guy and the girl in this music video pretty plz? I want to know what the drama is about!!! Thanks!
On November 11 2011 15:54 Hier wrote: Can someone translate the conversations between the guy and the girl in this music video pretty plz? I want to know what the drama is about!!! Thanks!
On November 11 2011 15:42 Trsjnica wrote: Pretty boring series (at least as a Zerg player)--it was all just timing attacks and no macro games.
After the EMP Nerf and Toss buff. Going macro in a TvP is just asking to get rolled by death ball. You literally have to play perfectly to win and if you lose just 1 engagement the Protoss will stay ahead and can't possibly lose.
Terran just whined the same way when GSL introduced the new large maps back in the beginning of GSL code S seasons. But they still kept winning macro games anyway.
Also people who say tanks are not viable vs protoss are just idiots who just a+ move and siege their tanks and expect to come out on top every time. I think by now everyone should know that as long as you can position your tanks well and have enough units to hold the line, tanks are quiet viable in TvP.
I'm pretty sure most terrans know how to use tanks considering it's a staple in TvT and TvZ, no one at any level expects to 1a... They're just bad, and people have tried using it but MMM is just better, and the new buff to protoss doesn't change that. Siege tanks will basically do the same thing EMP does, and by the time they've done enough damage to start taking away health chargelots/blink stalkers are gonna be on top of your army. Tanks are just designed poorly against late game protoss compositions. Bio with EMPs are just better, period.
On November 11 2011 15:42 Trsjnica wrote: Pretty boring series (at least as a Zerg player)--it was all just timing attacks and no macro games.
After the EMP Nerf and Toss buff. Going macro in a TvP is just asking to get rolled by death ball. You literally have to play perfectly to win and if you lose just 1 engagement the Protoss will stay ahead and can't possibly lose.
Terran just whined the same way when GSL introduced the new large maps back in the beginning of GSL code S seasons. But they still kept winning macro games anyway.
Also people who say tanks are not viable vs protoss are just idiots who just a+ move and siege their tanks and expect to come out on top every time. I think by now everyone should know that as long as you can position your tanks well and have enough units to hold the line, tanks are quiet viable in TvP.
Tanks are bad on large wide open Map where you can flank.(basically every new GSL Map) Not just in TvP but in TvT as well even in TvZ they are pretty vulnerable in open space with flank potential but since they 1 Hit Lings/Banelings they are still pretty good. They just need too many shots for Toss units so flanks just kill them especially with charge. The Toss army will be on top of you before the tanks did enough damage and you also have to consider that going Bio/Tank will mean you def. will be behind on upgrades.
On November 11 2011 16:07 neoghaleon55 wrote: I'm always so frustrated watching games like these in BW, if you botched that bad of a double bunker rush, you die a horrible death.
On November 11 2011 16:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote: Ah I missed the MVP vs OZ series. Was it any good?
Not really, very short games with somewhat all-innish action in every game.
Thanks bro. Hopefully these 2 guys can give us a show.
It was MVP doing some kind of banshee tank marine push (the first game ended after 6 banshees surprised Oz) each time, with Oz using cool micro to pick off reinforcements, etc. Oz succeeds in the second but not the third game where MVP did a 2 base marine banshee tank push
On November 11 2011 15:42 Trsjnica wrote: Pretty boring series (at least as a Zerg player)--it was all just timing attacks and no macro games.
After the EMP Nerf and Toss buff. Going macro in a TvP is just asking to get rolled by death ball. You literally have to play perfectly to win and if you lose just 1 engagement the Protoss will stay ahead and can't possibly lose.
Terran just whined the same way when GSL introduced the new large maps back in the beginning of GSL code S seasons. But they still kept winning macro games anyway.
Also people who say tanks are not viable vs protoss are just idiots who just a+ move and siege their tanks and expect to come out on top every time. I think by now everyone should know that as long as you can position your tanks well and have enough units to hold the line, tanks are quiet viable in TvP.
All hail the superhero Piledriver. I guess you are far more knowledgeable than all professional Korean terran players then, as you've basically just called them all idiots. If only Terran professionals had your wisdom, then they'd never ever lose a single game, as terran is that imba, right?
On November 11 2011 15:42 Trsjnica wrote: Pretty boring series (at least as a Zerg player)--it was all just timing attacks and no macro games.
After the EMP Nerf and Toss buff. Going macro in a TvP is just asking to get rolled by death ball. You literally have to play perfectly to win and if you lose just 1 engagement the Protoss will stay ahead and can't possibly lose.
Terran just whined the same way when GSL introduced the new large maps back in the beginning of GSL code S seasons. But they still kept winning macro games anyway.
Also people who say tanks are not viable vs protoss are just idiots who just a+ move and siege their tanks and expect to come out on top every time. I think by now everyone should know that as long as you can position your tanks well and have enough units to hold the line, tanks are quiet viable in TvP.
All hail the superhero Piledriver. I guess you are far more knowledgeable than all professional Korean terran players then, as you've basically just called them all idiots. If only Terran professionals had your wisdom, then they'd never ever lose a single game, as terran is that imba, right?
Hahaha those silly korean terrans. They have no idea what they are doing.
On November 11 2011 15:42 Trsjnica wrote: Pretty boring series (at least as a Zerg player)--it was all just timing attacks and no macro games.
After the EMP Nerf and Toss buff. Going macro in a TvP is just asking to get rolled by death ball. You literally have to play perfectly to win and if you lose just 1 engagement the Protoss will stay ahead and can't possibly lose.
Terran just whined the same way when GSL introduced the new large maps back in the beginning of GSL code S seasons. But they still kept winning macro games anyway.
Also people who say tanks are not viable vs protoss are just idiots who just a+ move and siege their tanks and expect to come out on top every time. I think by now everyone should know that as long as you can position your tanks well and have enough units to hold the line, tanks are quiet viable in TvP.
All hail the superhero Piledriver. I guess you are far more knowledgeable than all professional Korean terran players then, as you've basically just called them all idiots. If only Terran professionals had your wisdom, then they'd never ever lose a single game, as terran is that imba, right?
Korean GM/Pros do use tanks, just rarely. So it can work well indeed. So your bashing was uncalled for.
Hmmm once DRG refines his defense for hellion openings, his zvt will be unbeatable again. Majorty of zvt he loses lately is cause he falls so far behind due to hellion openings.
On November 11 2011 16:31 Azzur wrote: DRG floating gas for some reason lol
Supernova has been rather unimpressive (dropping down to ro48 Code A) but for some reason he can beat DRG lol. You all can draw your own conclusions
Before this Seasons Code S he had been on a tear . Supernova is pretty good and you have to remember he was the one the kicked DRG out of GSL last season in Ro16.
On November 11 2011 16:29 vndods wrote: impressive that a terran is winning cross spawn on taldarim. especially against DRG. props to supernova.
It's not uncommon to win on Taldarim in TvZ because of that exposed natural. I wonder why more zergs dont just veto that map.
I agree with this. Map stats seem to indicate that the map is pretty heavily T favored in TvZ, likely because of the natural that is designed for Siege/elevator play which Zerg ground units are very inefficient against.
On November 11 2011 16:31 Azzur wrote: DRG floating gas for some reason lol
Supernova has been rather unimpressive (dropping down to ro48 Code A) but for some reason he can beat DRG lol. You all can draw your own conclusions
You call recent performance in one Tournament to be rather unimpressive? Check out his other recent results:
Ro8 GSL October Ro8 AoL Ro4 WCG
He's been quite impressive lately.
You have to understand, some people tend to overrate what happens in code s as a sign of a slump. Yes, supernover went 0-2 and dropped to code A, but he lost 2 bo1 and essentially just 1 bo3. Losing 1 bo3 in a tournament doesn't mean you're in a slump. In fact in basically all tournaments besides GSL, there's group play and players play tons of bo3 where losing 1 bo3 isn't a big deal.
On November 11 2011 16:31 Azzur wrote: DRG floating gas for some reason lol
Supernova has been rather unimpressive (dropping down to ro48 Code A) but for some reason he can beat DRG lol. You all can draw your own conclusions
Bro... are you serious? Serious? Smh... Gstl he went like 15-0 or something ridiculous like that before his first loss.... he has like 3 championships on him by now and a Silver (loss to MKP) a 70% win rate in KOREA... so yea, you make your assumptions on that. Oh wait, I should take your assumptions instead of statistics and championships.
On November 11 2011 16:36 TranceStorm wrote: MVP seems to playing so often in all the various Korean major tournaments (GSL, WCG, AoL). I can basically see his matches every other day haha.
On November 11 2011 16:40 vndods wrote: oh these games are actually live? or prerecorded. there is no fastforward and rewind options where it should be.
It's played live at the same place the WCG was just played. There's quite a good crowd in fact.
On November 11 2011 16:40 Tsubbi wrote: lol the terran didn't even scout nor expect the roaches until they arrived at his front yet one bunker saves the day anyway
yeah sucks how you cant just a-move to victory with roaches in every matchup.
On November 11 2011 16:40 vndods wrote: oh these games are actually live? or prerecorded. there is no fastforward and rewind options where it should be.
It's played live at the same place the WCG was just played. There's quite a good crowd in fact.
On November 11 2011 16:40 Tsubbi wrote: lol the terran didn't even scout nor expect the roaches until they arrived at his front yet one bunker saves the day anyway
yeah sucks how you cant just a-move to victory with roaches in every matchup.
On November 11 2011 16:40 Tsubbi wrote: lol the terran didn't even scout nor expect the roaches until they arrived at his front yet one bunker saves the day anyway
yeah sucks how you cant just a-move to victory with roaches in every matchup.
Yeah imagine if you could stim roaches.
._. Imagine if you could stim roaches. Oh god. Blizzard's going to try and make a theme of kerrigans integration of terran and zerg >>
On November 11 2011 16:48 blade55555 wrote: I faced this exact strategy yesterday on the ladder this build is fucking insane by supernova with the fast 3/3 with tanks xD
Do you know of any replay links where I could find this strategy?
DRG with his typical 2-base roach/ling semi-allin. But many terrans have now been clued-in to this build (e.g. see gumiho vs drg in their code s group match).
After that some top 3 control swinging the game in supernova's favour!
On November 11 2011 16:49 Azzur wrote: DRG with his typical 2-base roach/ling semi-allin. But many terrans have now been clued-in to this build (e.g. see gumiho vs drg in their code s group match).
After that some top 3 control swinging the game in supernova's favour!
yeah seems like more people are figuring out DRG's 1 style now.
On November 11 2011 16:45 JohnnyBanana wrote: I've never seen Caduceus Reactor be researched before...is it worth it?
It's a fake-out for cloak.
Well, he never canceled the upgrade afterward...he must thought they were useful then. I'm not really sure how useful Caduceus Reactor is, I've never really seen it in a real game, for its actual effect.
On November 11 2011 16:45 JohnnyBanana wrote: I've never seen Caduceus Reactor be researched before...is it worth it?
It's a fake-out for cloak.
Well, he never canceled the upgrade afterward...he must thought they were useful then. I'm not really sure how useful Caduceus Reactor is, I've never really seen it in a real game, for its actual effect.
I'm pretty sure he cancelled it - but if he didn't, pretty sure it was a mistake.
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
Good to see. Personally I'm sick of hearing of Artosis sucking Nestea's dick or making excuses for him. I will admit Nestea is easily the best zerg player in the world, but Bboongbbong played exceptionally well and deserved his wins. I didn't listen to State of the Game, but if what Moletrap says is true about Artosis, that's just sad.
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
Good to see. Personally I'm sick of hearing of Artosis sucking Nestea's dick or making excuses for him. I will admit Nestea is easily the best zerg player in the world, but Bboongbbong played exceptionally well and deserved his wins. I didn't listen to State of the Game, but if what Moletrap says is true about Artosis, that's just sad.
I think Artosis said NesTea is the best player in the world or something on SotG tonight. Hahaha.
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
What did moletrap say about artosis? I was away at that time
He said on SotG, Artosis was saying Bboongbboong was cheezing or something to get his wins against Nestea. But in truth those who actually watched the games Bboongbboong played a solid game well and if anything it was Nestea trying to cheese with 11pool ling bane on game2 of their series.
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
Good to see. Personally I'm sick of hearing of Artosis sucking Nestea's dick or making excuses for him. I will admit Nestea is easily the best zerg player in the world, but Bboongbbong played exceptionally well and deserved his wins. I didn't listen to State of the Game, but if what Moletrap says is true about Artosis, that's just sad.
I think Artosis said NesTea is the best player in the world or something on SotG tonight. Hahaha.
To be fair, NesTea has like a 92% win rate against zerg.
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
Good to see. Personally I'm sick of hearing of Artosis sucking Nestea's dick or making excuses for him. I will admit Nestea is easily the best zerg player in the world, but Bboongbbong played exceptionally well and deserved his wins. I didn't listen to State of the Game, but if what Moletrap says is true about Artosis, that's just sad.
I think Artosis said NesTea is the best player in the world or something on SotG tonight. Hahaha.
To be fair, NesTea has like a 92% win rate against zerg.
I don't see how that's quite laughable, I think most people will agree that Nestea is, out of all established players, currently second best, if not the best (his TvZ is his weakest, and most of the great players in Korea happen to play Terran like MVP so... haha ).
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
Good to see. Personally I'm sick of hearing of Artosis sucking Nestea's dick or making excuses for him. I will admit Nestea is easily the best zerg player in the world, but Bboongbbong played exceptionally well and deserved his wins. I didn't listen to State of the Game, but if what Moletrap says is true about Artosis, that's just sad.
I think Artosis said NesTea is the best player in the world or something on SotG tonight. Hahaha.
To be fair, NesTea has like a 92% win rate against zerg.
But it doesn't make him best player in the world. His win rate against terran is 56%, and this is what important!
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
Good to see. Personally I'm sick of hearing of Artosis sucking Nestea's dick or making excuses for him. I will admit Nestea is easily the best zerg player in the world, but Bboongbbong played exceptionally well and deserved his wins. I didn't listen to State of the Game, but if what Moletrap says is true about Artosis, that's just sad.
I think Artosis said NesTea is the best player in the world or something on SotG tonight. Hahaha.
To be fair, NesTea has like a 92% win rate against zerg.
Should be 86% now in Korean TLPD technically since he just lost to BB. Dunno if they'll put AoL in though. Would be dumb not to since it's televised and has a pretty damn decent prize pool. Hell, ESV was put into the TLPD even before it offered a Code A spot.
Also, having the highest win-percentage in a match-up does not necessarily make you the best player in the world.
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
Good to see. Personally I'm sick of hearing of Artosis sucking Nestea's dick or making excuses for him. I will admit Nestea is easily the best zerg player in the world, but Bboongbbong played exceptionally well and deserved his wins. I didn't listen to State of the Game, but if what Moletrap says is true about Artosis, that's just sad.
I think Artosis said NesTea is the best player in the world or something on SotG tonight. Hahaha.
To be fair, NesTea has like a 92% win rate against zerg.
Should be 86% now in Korean TLPD technically since he just lost to BB. Dunno if they'll put AoL in though. Would be dumb not to since it's televised and has a pretty damn decent prize pool. Hell, ESV was put into the TLPD even before it offered a Code A spot.
Also, having the highest win-percentage in a match-up does not necessarily make you the best player in the world.
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
Good to see. Personally I'm sick of hearing of Artosis sucking Nestea's dick or making excuses for him. I will admit Nestea is easily the best zerg player in the world, but Bboongbbong played exceptionally well and deserved his wins. I didn't listen to State of the Game, but if what Moletrap says is true about Artosis, that's just sad.
I think Artosis said NesTea is the best player in the world or something on SotG tonight. Hahaha.
To be fair, NesTea has like a 92% win rate against zerg.
Should be 86% now in Korean TLPD technically since he just lost to BB. Dunno if they'll put AoL in though. Would be dumb not to since it's televised and has a pretty damn decent prize pool. Hell, ESV was put into the TLPD even before it offered a Code A spot.
Also, having the highest win-percentage in a match-up does not necessarily make you the best player in the world.
TLPD actually doesn't count AoL.
It doesn't count it towards ELO, but does include it as apart of their win-rate %.
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
What did moletrap say about artosis? I was away at that time
He said on SotG, Artosis was saying Bboongbboong was cheezing or something to get his wins against Nestea. But in truth those who actually watched the games Bboongbboong played a solid game well and if anything it was Nestea trying to cheese with 11pool ling bane on game2 of their series.
Artosis didn't say bboongbboong was cheesing. It was just his typical NesTea is a god rant.
Not sure why people get so offended by it. Artosis is a fanboy of NesTea and a few other players. So what? I don't see why that's such a big issue.
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
What did moletrap say about artosis? I was away at that time
He said on SotG, Artosis was saying Bboongbboong was cheezing or something to get his wins against Nestea. But in truth those who actually watched the games Bboongbboong played a solid game well and if anything it was Nestea trying to cheese with 11pool ling bane on game2 of their series.
Artosis didn't say bboongbboong was cheesing. It was just his typical NesTea is a god rant.
Not sure why people get so offended by it. Artosis is a fanboy of NesTea and a few other players. So what? I don't see why that's such a big issue.
I guess its an issue because there are people who don't like nestea. Fortunately, whilst i'm not a supporter of nestea, I don't dislike him that much and don't like many many others. For instance, if artosis started hyping DRG and MC the way he does to nestea, I would be very annoyed.
Anyways, I think nestea is quite deserving of all the hype. He had excellent performances during the zerg tears vs protoss era and have shown very consistent results in the GSL, never falling out of Code S. Contrast with players such as DRG who's hyped as much as him but have never shown individual league results.
Terribad games by DRG (2&3). He was making bad decisions all over the place, almost all games he have lost lately were due to reactor hellion openings and he almost never went for roaches to defend that, not even a shit load of zerglings will do good against 6-10 hellions at choke points. Not only that, he also is trying hard to get these mutas out, making upgrades for them and they are useless when you are not harassing with them. At this point he is getting overrun by marines and he is unable to make enough banelings/zerglings. Dude should go infestors ASAP, and infestor/zergling combo is way better than any other when it comes to dealing with marines, one good fungal will kill up to 30 marines. DRG should stop rushing for these mutas, go stephano style once in a while and he will be fine, his game is easily fixable.
Meanwhile MVP was really impressive in his tvp, terrans lately are not doing well against protoss in a late game so maybe that's a way for terrans to finish a game of 1-2 base play. It is not like protoss can't do much against it, it is that terrans were for them too predictable, so you can catch them off guard.
i don't even see why this still needs to be said, Artosis is doing it on purpose. This much should seriously be evident. Today on SOTG he said I still think Clide is the best player in the world.
On November 11 2011 16:53 bubl100500 wrote: LOL Moletrap shitting on Artosis, finally someone did it.
What did moletrap say about artosis? I was away at that time
He said on SotG, Artosis was saying Bboongbboong was cheezing or something to get his wins against Nestea. But in truth those who actually watched the games Bboongbboong played a solid game well and if anything it was Nestea trying to cheese with 11pool ling bane on game2 of their series.
Artosis didn't say bboongbboong was cheesing. It was just his typical NesTea is a god rant.
Not sure why people get so offended by it. Artosis is a fanboy of NesTea and a few other players. So what? I don't see why that's such a big issue.
It gets annoying when he dismisses the other player, or say the players are super bad (GanZi and SuperNova) after NesTea played against Mvp. Funniest is that both GanZi and SuperNova can take out NesTea seeing their recent tvz
EPT![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/U2C5g.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/590.jpg)
VS ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/629.jpg)
MVP <Daybreak> 
Oz![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/26.jpg)
VS ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2627.jpg)
DongRaeGu
please oz please stop it 
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instead of statistics and championships.
