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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 09 2011 11:01 GMT
#781
group c is the hardest group to predict this season imo. Everyone is hit or miss in this group. Gonna go with puzzle and huk advancing I suppose..
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
November 09 2011 11:01 GMT
#782
On November 09 2011 19:59 Fionn wrote:
Clide is going to destroy Huk. I do not care that I have had a bad day so far predicting. Clide. Will. Not. Lose. To. Huk.

The dirty cash must be stopped.


Thanks! We need more Protoss in the RO16. It's for the greater good.
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
November 09 2011 11:02 GMT
#783
On November 09 2011 19:59 Fionn wrote:
Clide is going to destroy Huk. I do not care that I have had a bad day so far predicting. Clide. Will. Not. Lose. To. Huk.

The dirty cash must be stopped.


Well...Nada dropped out to Code A, Yugi-oh being Clide's Code A brother before this season mirroring his placement the past few seasons. There is no chance whatsoever...
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 09 2011 11:02 GMT
#784
On November 09 2011 20:00 Dragonmaster26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:56 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:52 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:44 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:41 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:38 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:37 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:33 Medrea wrote:
[quote]

You have never seen tanks in TvP?

Really guy?


Um, so what macro games have a terran who went for tanks won?
Are you going to say goody?


I was gonna say Jinro

Twice

How long ago was that again? And let's not forget that Jinro has since categorically said that mech cannot work in TvP so I don't know why you'd choose that as an example.


Never mentioned a time frame. He asked for an example. I gave him 2 from the same player

Yeah, and your example proved his point. That was about a year ago on bad maps from a player who has said for months since that the style does not work at all.

Tanks are terrible in late game TvP.


There was no disproving a point...all he asked was what macro games have there been where a Terran won. I mentioned 2. Nothing about whether its still legit, nothing about current meta trends and how its proven that they're garbage now

Simple question, simple answer.

OK then. Simple question, simple answer, his point was proven.

Glad we can all agree that late game tanks in TvP are terrible.


Not gonna argue with that


I never played Brood War much but what made tanks (and mech in general) useful in TvP?




I didn't play BW much too but i caught flash vs best in spl.
There were spider mines to catch the zealots from protoss. Tanks seemed to be much more deadly in destroying dragoons. And there were no ridiculous things like immortals.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
November 09 2011 11:02 GMT
#785
gogo HuK He tweeted is still up at 5 am, so I hope it isn`t too sleepy today.
keep it deep! @zulison
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 09 2011 11:02 GMT
#786
Well Fionn just said it, Huk got this!
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
November 09 2011 11:02 GMT
#787
On November 09 2011 19:58 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:56 4of8 wrote:
Seems like Virus wasn't underrated more like Supernova was overrated.


He just had a bad day...Ro8 last season, one win off Ro4, currently in Semi Finals of WCG Korea and Ro8 in AoL.



Yeah I guess for all the praise GOM has received for the format changes, and deservedly so, there is a problem with the setup for the first group stage of Code S.

I am not saying that Supernova definitely is the best player in that group, but the format is still incredibly volatile.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 09 2011 11:02 GMT
#788
On November 09 2011 20:01 Caesarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:59 Fionn wrote:
Clide is going to destroy Huk. I do not care that I have had a bad day so far predicting. Clide. Will. Not. Lose. To. Huk.

The dirty cash must be stopped.


Thanks! We need more Protoss in the RO16. It's for the greater good.


NO, i am a sad zealot fan club but 5/5 protoss advancing makes me a sad marine. 4/5 will be good thank you.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
November 09 2011 11:03 GMT
#789
On November 09 2011 19:49 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:48 forsooth wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:43 Mainland wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:31 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:29 Medrea wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:27 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:26 Mainland wrote:
How does he expect to play lategame TvP without ghosts or any other AoE?


What other AoE does terran have?


Tanks? Seeker missile? Nuke? Terran has more AoE's than the other races!


Lol. Go tanks in TvP? Seeker missile may be something not developed yet. Nuke is possible but is more gimmicky than required.
I figure that with protosses now discovering how to own terran with upgrades, terrans have to innovate and we start seeing more raven or other builds right now. Bio just can't cut it in late game against protoss of equal skill..


BFH is also worth considering to get rid of the zealot meat shield faster. Theorycrafting, I think an ideal approach to fighting zealot colossus archon would be EMPing the shit out of everything, then having hellions behind marauders, and then a few tanks in back focusing on stalkers with vikings and medivacs in the air.

No matter what, I think P will always be stronger in a heads-up fight super late game assuming perfect control, I think Terran will need to focus more on drops on remote bases and spreading out the P army, limiting bases and stressing the multitask to gain an advantage.

Hellions are great for killing zealots but the problem you run into is that colossi vaporize them almost as effectively as they do marines - which are also good against zealots. I'm no pro but I've tried a few marine/marauder/hellion builds vs Protoss on ladder and it was pretty much bad news for me whenever any number of colossi hit the field. Hellions end up being a big supply sink that can't do anything against the beefier Protoss units and end up just dying before doing a whole lot anyway.


Once again Colossus turns out to be the destroyer of variety XD

I think the issue goes further than that but yes, the colossus does mess up both ZvP and TvP because it's so amazingly powerful that it dictates to a pretty high degree what units you have to get. I was actually a bit dumbfounded by the design of the thing when I first started playing SC2 because I was used to the big firepower/mobility trade-off that existed in BW. Reavers, tanks, and lurkers were all essentially immobile firing platforms that offered amazing defensive advantages and required very meticulous control and decision making to use offensively. The same still holds true for Terran and Zerg in SC2 with tanks functioning the same way and brood lords being incredibly slow. But then you get this cliff walking, high ground seeing, reasonably fast moving, 9 range, pretty high rate of fire AOE laser beam that can be microed and escape from bad situations in ways that tanks or BLs could never dream of. No idea why anyone thought it was a good idea to put it in the game.
Horseballs
Profile Joined July 2011
United States721 Posts
November 09 2011 11:03 GMT
#790
On November 09 2011 20:01 darcevader88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 20:00 Dragonmaster26 wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:56 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:52 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:44 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:41 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:38 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:37 poorcloud wrote:
[quote]

Um, so what macro games have a terran who went for tanks won?
Are you going to say goody?


I was gonna say Jinro

Twice

How long ago was that again? And let's not forget that Jinro has since categorically said that mech cannot work in TvP so I don't know why you'd choose that as an example.


Never mentioned a time frame. He asked for an example. I gave him 2 from the same player

Yeah, and your example proved his point. That was about a year ago on bad maps from a player who has said for months since that the style does not work at all.

Tanks are terrible in late game TvP.


There was no disproving a point...all he asked was what macro games have there been where a Terran won. I mentioned 2. Nothing about whether its still legit, nothing about current meta trends and how its proven that they're garbage now

Simple question, simple answer.

OK then. Simple question, simple answer, his point was proven.

Glad we can all agree that late game tanks in TvP are terrible.


Not gonna argue with that


I never played Brood War much but what made tanks (and mech in general) useful in TvP?


tanks not sucking
no collosus
no charge lots


Also storm and reavers (especially reavers) rendered bio utterly useless.
kslghost
Profile Joined June 2011
246 Posts
November 09 2011 11:03 GMT
#791
I think it's too easy to make assumptions of a player's ability and their overrated/underrated-ness over the short term. They can look like a genius one game because they guess correctly or don't get caught being greedy, then completely get owned the next playing at the exact same level. I've pretty much relegated grouping most players in this "bottom S-class" tier until they prove themselves by going deep in the GSL more than once. The elite is so few, especially when you look back and see who actually won these championships.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2727 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 11:05:15
November 09 2011 11:03 GMT
#792
On November 09 2011 20:02 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 20:00 Dragonmaster26 wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:56 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:52 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:44 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:41 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:38 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:37 poorcloud wrote:
[quote]

Um, so what macro games have a terran who went for tanks won?
Are you going to say goody?


I was gonna say Jinro

Twice

How long ago was that again? And let's not forget that Jinro has since categorically said that mech cannot work in TvP so I don't know why you'd choose that as an example.


Never mentioned a time frame. He asked for an example. I gave him 2 from the same player

Yeah, and your example proved his point. That was about a year ago on bad maps from a player who has said for months since that the style does not work at all.

Tanks are terrible in late game TvP.


There was no disproving a point...all he asked was what macro games have there been where a Terran won. I mentioned 2. Nothing about whether its still legit, nothing about current meta trends and how its proven that they're garbage now

Simple question, simple answer.

OK then. Simple question, simple answer, his point was proven.

Glad we can all agree that late game tanks in TvP are terrible.


Not gonna argue with that


I never played Brood War much but what made tanks (and mech in general) useful in TvP?




I didn't play BW much too but i caught flash vs best in spl.
There were spider mines to catch the zealots from protoss. Tanks seemed to be much more deadly in destroying dragoons. And there were no ridiculous things like immortals.


No Inmortals (hard counter to tanks) and Colosus.
Tanks were better and did more damage.
Vulture > Hellion. Spider mines gave terran lot of utility to protect tanks.

Edit: As Horseball said, reavers and storms made unviable bio.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 09 2011 11:03 GMT
#793
HuK vs CLIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE so much fun today :D
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dashmode
Profile Joined August 2011
60 Posts
November 09 2011 11:03 GMT
#794
It is funny how 2-3 bo1 in most people eyes are enough to decide that players are overrated or not :D :D
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 09 2011 11:04 GMT
#795
I hope puzzle can advance for once.
maxmap
Profile Joined October 2011
Korea (South)11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 11:04:24
November 09 2011 11:04 GMT
#796
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btw killer's interview picture pose lol

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Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
November 09 2011 11:04 GMT
#797
On November 09 2011 19:59 Fionn wrote:
Clide is going to destroy Huk. I do not care that I have had a bad day so far predicting. Clide. Will. Not. Lose. To. Huk.

The dirty cash must be stopped.


Dude wtf?
I want Clide to win (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Go and change your prediction!!!
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
November 09 2011 11:05 GMT
#798
Tanks were good in Starcraft 1 because Vultures were the most overpowered things ever.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
November 09 2011 11:05 GMT
#799
oh great, artosis just jinxed clide
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
November 09 2011 11:05 GMT
#800
fuck, artosis predicted clide to come out,
sorry clide
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