• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:54
CEST 13:54
KST 20:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10
Community News
Artosis vs Ret Showmatch9Classic wins RSL Revival Season 22Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four2SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update267BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update Storm change is a essentially a strict buff on PTR Question about resolution & DPI settings SC2 Classic wins RSL Revival Season 2 Code S RO4 & Finals Preview - Cure, Dark, Maru, Creator
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Prome's Evo #1 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo) Monday Nights Weeklies RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense
Brood War
General
Artosis vs Ret Showmatch Whose hotkey signature is this? ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Barracks Gamble vs Mini
Tourneys
Prediction for ro4 of ASL 20 [ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro8 Day 1 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Borderlands 3 Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War! Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Staying on Budget with a Building Estimate US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[AI] JoCo is Eminem for com…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2013 users

[GSL] Nov Code S RO32 D4 - Page 34

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 120 Next
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 09 2011 10:38 GMT
#661
On November 09 2011 19:37 RaiKageRyu wrote:
I wasn't paying attention to the beginning... WTF HAPPEND?!!!

I'll definitely re-watch this one on VODS.

Double proxy marauders.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 09 2011 10:38 GMT
#662
On November 09 2011 19:37 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:29 Medrea wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:27 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:26 Mainland wrote:
How does he expect to play lategame TvP without ghosts or any other AoE?


What other AoE does terran have?


Tanks? Seeker missile? Nuke? Terran has more AoE's than the other races!

If you think tanks work vs Protoss, then you really don't understand the matchup at all. Ravens are something Terran should get more but not for seeker missiles. Nukes are cutesy but pretty easy to mitigate with warp-ins and cannons.

It's not like Terran players are all going bio in TvP because we want to. It's actually the only choice because mech is so immobile and because Protoss can remax faster than Terran as-is with Terran going bio. If you try a mech composition and don't completely dominate every engagement, you will get run over because your resupply will be absurdly slow by comparison.


Also this is true. Tanks work extremely early (like during a 1-1-1) but if you are playing a basic macro game with a protoss tanks are pretty bad because they are nullified by so many things.
Maruprime.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
November 09 2011 10:39 GMT
#663
On November 09 2011 19:38 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:38 bbm wrote:
can someone describe what happened in more words than just double proxy to the poor among us at work?

I'm afraid there are no words to explain the sheer retardedness of that game >.<

I watched the whole thing and i can't even explain it. I think they were both mining from the same minerals at one point. I.... i really don't have the words.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
kslghost
Profile Joined June 2011
246 Posts
November 09 2011 10:39 GMT
#664
It's pretty simple - tanks lose to protoss because immortals are the hardest counter to them in the world and blink stalkers are also pretty good against them.
maxmap
Profile Joined October 2011
Korea (South)11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 10:39:54
November 09 2011 10:39 GMT
#665
[image loading]

This is DUAL CORE!!!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16088 Posts
November 09 2011 10:39 GMT
#666
On November 09 2011 19:37 Fionn wrote:
Supernovamber ended before it even began.



And it's all your fault!

aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 09 2011 10:39 GMT
#667
On November 09 2011 19:38 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:38 bbm wrote:
can someone describe what happened in more words than just double proxy to the poor among us at work?

two orbitals mining off the same main


Plus SCVs killing marauders
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 09 2011 10:39 GMT
#668
On November 09 2011 19:37 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:36 s3rp wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:33 Medrea wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:31 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:29 Medrea wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:27 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:26 Mainland wrote:
How does he expect to play lategame TvP without ghosts or any other AoE?


What other AoE does terran have?


Tanks? Seeker missile? Nuke? Terran has more AoE's than the other races!


Lol. Go tanks in TvP? Seeker missile may be something not developed yet. Nuke is possible but is more gimmicky than required.
I figure that with protosses now discovering how to own terran with upgrades, terrans have to innovate and we start seeing more raven or other builds right now. Bio just can't cut it in late game against protoss of equal skill..


You have never seen tanks in TvP?

Really guy?


Have you ever seen what happens beyond 1-1-1 with tanks ? They get useless.

There is no beyond 1-1-1. If it fails they just all-in again and either win or lose.


The more correct argument would be: do you see what happens to tank timing pushes beyond the tank timing push?

The issue being chargelots mainly, but HotS will add battle hellions to meatshield up and make tanks potentially more useful in the later parts of the game.

Unfortunately, what will probably happen is hellion marauder medivac =/
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
s3183529
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia707 Posts
November 09 2011 10:39 GMT
#669
Bad decision by Supernova to stay near the bunker to try to kill the SCVs. He should have run inside after killing the marauders not in the bunker.
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
November 09 2011 10:39 GMT
#670
They take 1basing to a whole other level.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 09 2011 10:39 GMT
#671
On November 09 2011 19:38 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:37 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:33 Medrea wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:31 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:29 Medrea wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:27 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:26 Mainland wrote:
How does he expect to play lategame TvP without ghosts or any other AoE?


What other AoE does terran have?


Tanks? Seeker missile? Nuke? Terran has more AoE's than the other races!


Lol. Go tanks in TvP? Seeker missile may be something not developed yet. Nuke is possible but is more gimmicky than required.
I figure that with protosses now discovering how to own terran with upgrades, terrans have to innovate and we start seeing more raven or other builds right now. Bio just can't cut it in late game against protoss of equal skill..


You have never seen tanks in TvP?

Really guy?


Um, so what macro games have a terran who went for tanks won?
Are you going to say goody?

Actually check the MVP vs MC game from a few seasons back. MVP basically did a 2 base marine-tank-banshee composition.


And he transitioned into bio late game?
The original point was that why didn't terran transition into tanks late game.
That 2 base marine tank banshee was useful in setting up a contain, kind of like a 1-1-1. Then MVP went into full bio, putting down 5 raxes immediately after that.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 09 2011 10:39 GMT
#672
Go HuK, may thou smash some faces.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 09 2011 10:40 GMT
#673
On November 09 2011 19:39 kslghost wrote:
It's pretty simple - tanks lose to protoss because immortals are the hardest counter to them in the world and blink stalkers are also pretty good against them.


And zealots make them shoot each other =)

And on big gsl maps you can always just waltz around them.

Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 09 2011 10:40 GMT
#674
I must say good job on the new bel shir map, removing gold and making it that theme. It reminds me a little bit about red alert
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
November 09 2011 10:40 GMT
#675
On November 09 2011 19:38 bbm wrote:
can someone describe what happened in more words than just double proxy to the poor among us at work?

They both killed each other, then landed their CC's in the same base and started mining in a race to build marauders to win with, the proxy bunker then got turned into a defensive bunker and it held off the marauders coming from the other side of the map. it was extremely close, i think a few hp made the difference and the scv's all died.
SC2Real
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany184 Posts
November 09 2011 10:40 GMT
#676
On November 09 2011 19:39 kslghost wrote:
It's pretty simple - tanks lose to protoss because immortals are the hardest counter to them in the world and blink stalkers are also pretty good against them.


dont forget about charge zealots :D
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 10:42:16
November 09 2011 10:40 GMT
#677
On November 09 2011 19:37 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:36 s3rp wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:33 Medrea wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:31 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:29 Medrea wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:27 poorcloud wrote:
On November 09 2011 19:26 Mainland wrote:
How does he expect to play lategame TvP without ghosts or any other AoE?


What other AoE does terran have?


Tanks? Seeker missile? Nuke? Terran has more AoE's than the other races!


Lol. Go tanks in TvP? Seeker missile may be something not developed yet. Nuke is possible but is more gimmicky than required.
I figure that with protosses now discovering how to own terran with upgrades, terrans have to innovate and we start seeing more raven or other builds right now. Bio just can't cut it in late game against protoss of equal skill..


You have never seen tanks in TvP?

Really guy?


Have you ever seen what happens beyond 1-1-1 with tanks ? They get useless.

There is no beyond 1-1-1. If it fails they just all-in again and either win or lose.


Thats not how i meant it more like beyond a 1-1-1 timing ( in like not moving out ) , tanks become bad once upgrade and charge kick in combined with AOE. and or Immortals.
kslghost
Profile Joined June 2011
246 Posts
November 09 2011 10:40 GMT
#678
Well, hardest counter that doesn't happen to be air, at least. I have seen a few builds where you get one early tank, but it's super risky I believe.
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
November 09 2011 10:40 GMT
#679
On November 09 2011 19:38 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:38 bbm wrote:
can someone describe what happened in more words than just double proxy to the poor among us at work?

two orbitals mining off the same main


dear lord

vods can not come soon enough
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
Rykros
Profile Joined May 2011
483 Posts
November 09 2011 10:40 GMT
#680
Ok ill explain . Both guys proxy marauder rushed each other. Then jakjji fled into supernova base . Two orbitals of different players were mining from each other while marauder battles were going on . Supernova lost the marauder battle and therefore the game.
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 120 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LiuLi Cup
11:00
Weekly #7
RotterdaM538
IndyStarCraft 156
CranKy Ducklings88
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 538
IndyStarCraft 156
Rex 120
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34148
Horang2 2398
Bisu 2103
GuemChi 2038
actioN 1616
Mind 853
BeSt 637
Hyuk 606
EffOrt 359
Larva 322
[ Show more ]
Mini 230
Killer 194
Light 191
Last 188
ggaemo 181
hero 172
ZerO 151
PianO 113
Hyun 104
Soma 97
Snow 79
Aegong 69
Rush 58
Backho 47
Movie 27
JYJ27
Free 25
soO 22
Icarus 21
yabsab 19
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
scan(afreeca) 18
Sacsri 17
Terrorterran 14
HiyA 11
Hm[arnc] 8
Shine 8
Dota 2
singsing2899
qojqva848
Dendi590
XcaliburYe368
BananaSlamJamma243
420jenkins37
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1678
x6flipin493
byalli211
edward109
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor129
Other Games
summit1g7571
B2W.Neo624
Pyrionflax268
XaKoH 214
DeMusliM125
NeuroSwarm56
Mew2King55
kaitlyn20
Trikslyr18
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 66
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 8
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1242
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 6m
SKillous vs Nice
Cure vs Percival
Krystianer vs HiGhDrA
MaxPax vs Ryung
MaNa vs ArT
Moja vs TBD
sOs vs HonMonO
NightMare vs UedSoldier
The PondCast
22h 6m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 22h
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Serral vs herO
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
RSL Revival: Season 2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.