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GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
November 09 2011 13:08 GMT
#2121
I'm curious if the GSL secretly knew Calm before the Storm was very protoss favored.

They put it into GSL to speed up the race balance problem they have.

/conspiracy.
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
November 09 2011 13:08 GMT
#2122
On November 09 2011 22:06 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:04 BlazingGlory wrote:
What was the thing that had just twice as big aquarium ?


A sad walrus


Omg poor thing ;( I just didnt know what walrus is.
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
November 09 2011 13:09 GMT
#2123
On November 09 2011 22:06 Heimatloser wrote:
ro16 composition
Slayers: 4
FXO: 3
IM: 3
TSL: 2
NSHoSeo: 1
MVP: 1
EG: 1
oGs: 1

Prime: 0
StarTale: 0
ZeneX: 0



SlayerS and IM are expected but way to go FXO!!!
Another surprise is MVP only have one candidate.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
November 09 2011 13:09 GMT
#2124
On November 09 2011 22:05 mvtaylor wrote:
HuK may start with a bo3 vs Leenock but assuming he wins that he has a bo3 against either MMA or NesTea and then assuming he loses that and Leenock also loses another bo3 against whoever he hasn't already played...

I can see HuK not being bottom of the group but advancing is going to be pretty damn tough and at the end of the day it doesn't matter if you finish 3rd or 4th as you both exit to the same stage of Code A

I think Nestea would wipe the floor with HuK, but he should have a decent chance against MMA.
MMA isn't known for his TvP...
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
November 09 2011 13:10 GMT
#2125
On November 09 2011 22:09 Hunterai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:06 Heimatloser wrote:
ro16 composition
Slayers: 4
FXO: 3
IM: 3
TSL: 2
NSHoSeo: 1
MVP: 1
EG: 1
oGs: 1

Prime: 0
StarTale: 0
ZeneX: 0



SlayerS and IM are expected but way to go FXO!!!
Another surprise is MVP only have one candidate.


Not really. What's surprising is that their candidate isn't DRG.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 09 2011 13:10 GMT
#2126
On November 09 2011 22:05 mvtaylor wrote:
HuK may start with a bo3 vs Leenock but assuming he wins that he has a bo3 against either MMA or NesTea and then assuming he loses that and Leenock also loses another bo3 against whoever he hasn't already played...

I can see HuK not being bottom of the group but advancing is going to be pretty damn tough and at the end of the day it doesn't matter if you finish 3rd or 4th as you both exit to the same stage of Code A

If Huk and MMA win their opening game, I can see Huk winning vs MMA, who is not famous for his vP (far from it).
But even if MMA's vP not good, Huk will have to play way better than he did vs Clide to win.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
November 09 2011 13:10 GMT
#2127
Might be the end for some players like July and Nada..

Awesome to see Huk advance but I feel he was quite lucky. He did a poor opening against clide (mass 2 base blinkstalker with too much gas, kept attacking way too long) and then clide missed some huge oppurtunities later (like sniping 3rd nexus).
Huk vs Puzzle was just a free win because puzzle did a rather silly all-in (4 gate + warp prism is awful imo, you pay 400m 100g just to get a prism basically). He then also caught the prism right in open air and had the immediate win right there.
Almetien
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland43 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 13:13:49
November 09 2011 13:11 GMT
#2128
NONO, GUYS LISTEN, ITS JUST BECAUSE PROTOSS PLAYERS ARE MORE SKILLED AND PRACTICE MORE
see what I did there, dear terrans?

Actually, huge deal was GomTV taking things into their own hands, just look at the map pool. Removing gold patches, huge ass macro maps (btw I love this new one with pocket expansion, so many good games on it already), this really hurts terran mid-game where they are STILL pretty much OP. This alowed toss players to play more macro-oriented games, get upgrades, get colossi+ht which actually made games balanced. I mean come on, if you think that games look different because players like Killer and MC just recently learnt how to macro you need to seriously grow up.

Relax tho, Ro16 is comming, when our 5 toss players will face opponents of higher skill caliber (think: MMA, MVP, Nestea, Coca, sC) and things won't look that smooth. Ro32 was just bunch of semi-good terrans that were used to emp + stim&win doing 0 harras and having terrible engagements. Guess what, that won't work.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 09 2011 13:11 GMT
#2129
On November 09 2011 22:07 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:06 Heimatloser wrote:
ro16 composition
Slayers: 4
FXO: 3
IM: 3
TSL: 2
NSHoSeo: 1
MVP: 1
EG: 1
oGs: 1

Prime: 0
StarTale: 0
ZeneX: 0





I am truly amazed that Prime made it to the GSTL finals.


Their talent is up and coming...or finding it's legs. Creator, Classic, Maru, AnNyeong, BBoongBBoong are all approximately of Code A quality and largely unknowns in the regular GSL seasons.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
November 09 2011 13:12 GMT
#2130
On November 09 2011 22:03 chatuka wrote:
see that match-up chart, did MMA have to face Nestea in the round of 16? this type of seeding is terrible. Nestea and MMA should be seeded so that they don't have to face each other until the semi's or finals. just like every major sport does.

so disappointed in the bracket set up


It was seeded so that they wouldn't have to play until the Ro8. But Nestea lost to sC in his group so he ended up in MMAs group
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
November 09 2011 13:12 GMT
#2131
On November 09 2011 22:03 chatuka wrote:
see that match-up chart, did MMA have to face Nestea in the round of 16? this type of seeding is terrible. Nestea and MMA should be seeded so that they don't have to face each other until the semi's or finals. just like every major sport does.

so disappointed in the bracket set up

This bracket whine is so annoying.

If Nestea doesn't fuck up and get's first in his group he would not have faced MMA. They can both advance. Why the fuck do you complain?

It happens in real sports aswell, about every time a good team fucks up in the group stages/there are 2 good teams in a single group. Just look at the last EC, there were Italy/France/Holland in one group and there was a 50% chance that Germany played in that group aswell, which are 4/5 top teams in Europe. Do you want to tell me that football is no major sport?
Or look at this CL season. You are going to have top teams battling each other in the RO16, cause Man City/Bayern and AC Milan/Barcelona are going to be second in their group.

VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 09 2011 13:13 GMT
#2132
Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide T_T

Please Clide, train hard, no Code B!

BUT OH MY GOD YES SANGHO! <3
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
November 09 2011 13:13 GMT
#2133
On November 09 2011 22:11 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:07 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On November 09 2011 22:06 Heimatloser wrote:
ro16 composition
Slayers: 4
FXO: 3
IM: 3
TSL: 2
NSHoSeo: 1
MVP: 1
EG: 1
oGs: 1

Prime: 0
StarTale: 0
ZeneX: 0





I am truly amazed that Prime made it to the GSTL finals.


Their talent is up and coming...or finding it's legs. Creator, Classic, Maru, AnNyeong, BBoongBBoong are all approximately of Code A quality and largely unknowns in the regular GSL seasons.


Eh. They weren't supposed to beat TSL for sure. I actually went to bed after MKP lost that game and my jaw dropped after finding out TSL choked it.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
November 09 2011 13:13 GMT
#2134
OMG 3 protoss advancing woot!!
Beakerbite
Profile Joined May 2010
United States127 Posts
November 09 2011 13:15 GMT
#2135
On November 09 2011 22:11 Almetien wrote:
NONO, GUYS LISTEN, ITS JUST BECAUSE PROTOSS PLAYERS ARE MORE SKILLED AND PRACTICE MORE
see what I did there, dear terrans?

Actually, huge deal was GomTV taking things into their own hands, just look at the map pool. Removing gold patches, huge ass macro maps (btw I love this new one with pocket expansion, so many good games on it already), this really hurts terran mid-game where they are STILL pretty much OP. This alowed toss players to play more macro-oriented games, get upgrades, get colossi+ht which actually made games balanced. I mean come on, if you think that games look different because players like Killer and MC just recently learnt how to macro you need to seriously grow up.

Relax tho, Ro16 is comming, when our 5 toss players will face opponents of higher skill caliber (think: MMA, MVP, Nestea, Coca, sC) and things won't look that smooth. Ro32 was just bunch of semi-good terrans doing zero drop harras that were used to emp + stim&win doing 0 harras and having terrible engagements. Guess what, that won't work.

Removing the gold bases seems to have been a good move. Before a terran could lock one down and their opponent was forced into trying to break the fortified position to push them off. Terran will just have to adjust how they expand when they are ahead is all.
For the Overmind.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
November 09 2011 13:17 GMT
#2136
On November 09 2011 22:10 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:05 mvtaylor wrote:
HuK may start with a bo3 vs Leenock but assuming he wins that he has a bo3 against either MMA or NesTea and then assuming he loses that and Leenock also loses another bo3 against whoever he hasn't already played...

I can see HuK not being bottom of the group but advancing is going to be pretty damn tough and at the end of the day it doesn't matter if you finish 3rd or 4th as you both exit to the same stage of Code A

If Huk and MMA win their opening game, I can see Huk winning vs MMA, who is not famous for his vP (far from it).
But even if MMA's vP not good, Huk will have to play way better than he did vs Clide to win.


Nicka please. The only person who can stop MMA is already in Code A.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
November 09 2011 13:17 GMT
#2137
protoss day, sad zealot won't have to cry himself into sleep tonight
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
November 09 2011 13:17 GMT
#2138
On November 09 2011 22:05 mvtaylor wrote:
HuK may start with a bo3 vs Leenock but assuming he wins that he has a bo3 against either MMA or NesTea and then assuming he loses that and Leenock also loses another bo3 against whoever he hasn't already played...

I can see HuK not being bottom of the group but advancing is going to be pretty damn tough and at the end of the day it doesn't matter if you finish 3rd or 4th as you both exit to the same stage of Code A

Ro16 is still Bo1.
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
November 09 2011 13:18 GMT
#2139
On November 09 2011 22:05 Beakerbite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:03 Kazeyonoma wrote:
and remember kids, this was before the 1.4.2 patch that makes protoss even stronger! -_-' yep, definitely needed a patch for protoss to start doing better, not just play better.

oh wells, still fun to watch, grats to all of those sad zealots that advanced!

Terran hasn't developed TvP in months and they have mostly focused on TvT, where as protoss have been using all of this time trying to find a way to take down the terran. This is how metagame works.


exactly and this is why the patch is pointless. protoss now destroys even code s terrans and with the next patch its going to be even stronger. and its even worse for non pro-terrans outside of GM TvP already heavily favors protoss.

in short, blizzard are dumb.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 09 2011 13:19 GMT
#2140
The day that Terrans use a raven instead of 15 scans for lonely Dts and banelings bombs and still are mineral starved, that is the day they can bring back gold patches.
I had a good night of sleep.
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