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secretary bird
447 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:30 Beakerbite wrote: Keep them in the back all safe and cozy. If a toss blinks in to snipe then throw down a damn PDD. If you react in 0.1 seconds you can block stalkers and mutas for about 1 second, or they retreat and you wasted your energy. Edit: Actually nvm having 1 in your army is fine against DTs I suppose. | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:25 Porcelina wrote: Any competent doctor would tell you it is not safe to suddenly cut off your antidepressants. But..but.. what happens if I do? Sangho too awesome in my opinion. He needs to have his jacket confiscated by Carmac again for balance. | ||
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rpgalon
Brazil1069 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:32 Qaatar wrote: Pretty sure he's talking about using Ravens to catch burrowed units, obs, etc. When Ravens stop moving at 1 centimeter an hour, then maybe Terrans will consider using them. Until then, it's purely a defensive endgame unit. Or something to one base all in Protoss with, of course. | ||
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Depetrify
978 Posts
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
Speed of Marine (unstimmed): 2.25 Speed of Marauder (ustimmed): 2.25 Speed of Tank: 2.25 EDIT\\ Observer: 1.875 Speed of Raven: 2.25 So slow. qq | ||
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Almetien
Poland43 Posts
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
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rpgalon
Brazil1069 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:32 Qaatar wrote: Pretty sure he's talking about using Ravens to catch burrowed units, obs, etc. When Ravens stop moving at 1 centimeter an hour, then maybe Terrans will consider using them. Until then, it's purely a defensive endgame unit. lol, they are the basic speed... 2.25, just like hydras they are faster than a protoss army that has HT in the mix Terran and zergs are so spoiled that anything that does not move 3+ is slow.... | ||
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Beakerbite
United States127 Posts
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:29 secretary bird wrote: Ravens are terrible, expensive, slow and easily sniped though. Raven move speed is 2.25, same as unstimmed infantry and siege tanks but slower than vikings. Can terran not escort their raven with two vikings ? It's got a sight of 11 so I'm not seeing why it needs to be super out in front of the main army anyways. | ||
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secretary bird
447 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:36 Slomo wrote: Speed of medivac: 2.5 Speed of Marine (unstimmed): 2.25 Speed of Marauder (ustimmed): 2.25 Speed of Tank: 2.25 Speed of Raven: 2.25 So slow. qq Speed Hydras: 2.25 Dude DTs are much quicker than Ravens and stimmed Marines chasing mutas are too fast for them to catch baneling mines. Also there is acceleration which is really bad for Ravens it feels like. | ||
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Killcani
Sweden448 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
2.25 is the standard ground speed for units that should not be considered slow nor fast by design. | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:39 rpgalon wrote: lol, they are the basic speed... 2.25, just like hydras they are faster than a protoss army that has HT in the mix Terran and zergs are so spoiled that anything that does not move 3+ is slow.... Except when you are using them in a midgame defensive utility to catch burrowed banelings, that 2.25 is terrible. Recon units need speed to be effective, especially something as expensive as a Raven. You have to look at the usage for each unit. | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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Ghoststrikes
Canada1356 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:43 Qaatar wrote: Except when you are using them in a midgame defensive utility to catch burrowed banelings, that 2.25 is terrible. Recon units need speed to be effective, especially something as expensive as a Raven. You have to look at the usage for each unit. I totally disagree. In a situation where you leapfrog siege tanks, if you have the apm to spare to bring a raven and take a semi-good care of it, you can not only make sure not to get baneling bombed, but also remove creep. I think we will definitly more of this in pro matches. | ||
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Beakerbite
United States127 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:43 Qaatar wrote: Except when you are using them in a midgame defensive utility to catch burrowed banelings, that 2.25 is terrible. Recon units need speed to be effective, especially something as expensive as a Raven. You have to look at the usage for each unit. As your army grows in variety, then it will likely be required to move more slowly and methodically. And it's not a complete requirement, if the terran feels a moment where they need to stim and rush forward they always have a scan but by keeping a raven around they can greatly reduce the amount of scans necessary. | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On November 09 2011 22:43 Qaatar wrote: Except when you are using them in a midgame defensive utility to catch burrowed banelings, that 2.25 is terrible. Recon units need speed to be effective, especially something as expensive as a Raven. You have to look at the usage for each unit. Since this is in the LR for today games I think you should see it in that context. The terran army was stationary at a watch tower for a long time. The protoss warped in DTs one at a time and sent them in untill the terran had used 10+ scans to kill them. Don't tell me swapping the Starport for a tech lab and make one raven sin't worth 10 * 50 OC energy. Not to mention you get the added benefit of PDD. | ||
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michielbrands
Netherlands1146 Posts
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