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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 00:48:13
October 23 2011 00:47 GMT
#5861
On October 23 2011 09:46 Stanlot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:45 tlrocksss wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:44 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:43 freewareplayer wrote:
A tier 2 unit countering a tier 3 unit is ok, but a tier 2 unit countering the complete tier 3 of a race is not right no matter how you look at it

It's countered by the tier 1......


Ghost counter lings.

...What???


Yes bonus damage to light from the auto attack.

Youll never trade efficiently with it.
twitch.tv/medrea
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
October 23 2011 00:47 GMT
#5862
On October 23 2011 09:46 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:43 Doodsmack wrote:
Poll: Did MVP and NesTea agree beforehand to split the pot?

Yes (143)
 
63%

No (84)
 
37%

227 total votes

Your vote: Did MVP and NesTea agree beforehand to split the pot?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Where's the "no, you're a fucking idiot" answer?



You must be new to esport then


new to esports
20 posts

lol. even if they did, the last game was sick even though nestea played like garbage.
The universe created an audience for itself.
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
October 23 2011 00:47 GMT
#5863
On October 23 2011 09:43 Irre wrote:
i can't believe people are seriously suggesting the match was fixed..what the @#$@#$



No, it's just all the zerg fanboys subtly trying to say their god lost on purpose. That's all.
http://www.youtube.com/user/sirmonkeh Zerg Live Casts and Commentary!
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 00:48:27
October 23 2011 00:47 GMT
#5864
F*** blizzard and Browder and Kim, for making a game where failing doomdrops, letting a terran have half the map while on 15k/5k and staying passive, doing nothing against drops, donating mutas and broodlords, attacking with broodlords without support, letting 20+ drones die to a nuke and not using mutas to their full potential in the early-mid game when terran is not well defended and is on multiple bases will not make zergs win. I'm now writing this angry post, because my hatred for the game's balance is totally objective, and is not at all related to any type of miserable online life with multiple stupid losses because of my own failures, that I blame the game balance for ...
Yeah, whatever
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
October 23 2011 00:47 GMT
#5865
On October 23 2011 09:46 Stanlot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:45 MasterKush wrote:
Guys... Foo Fighters are playing now, that's why the crowd left... that's why the crowd was still around until 1am this morning for GSL finals.

If my favorite player had just won, I would've stuck around. Forget the Foo Fighters.

Wow, forgot about the Foo. Tbh I would have just skipped the finals see the Foo and watched the VODs later...
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5866
On October 23 2011 09:46 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:44 1ManArmy wrote:
Nestea is the highest earning player now.

Nestea : $225.525
MC: $214.950
MVP: $203.840

Mvp is closing the gap pretty quickly. I remember him being way behind in money earned because of the bigger Open Season prizes.


MC plays in like x3 more tournaments than Nestea and MVP also
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5867
On October 23 2011 09:45 MooMooMugi wrote:
Congrats, Huk's prediction of Sen doing well was correct 3rd place :D


His prediction was Sen winning it lol -_-
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5868
On October 23 2011 09:45 tlrocksss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:44 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:43 freewareplayer wrote:
A tier 2 unit countering a tier 3 unit is ok, but a tier 2 unit countering the complete tier 3 of a race is not right no matter how you look at it

It's countered by the tier 1......


Ghost counter lings.


No they don't. If you think that bonus damage to light equals a counter, you're dead wrong.

Lings swarm and annihilate the slow ghosts.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5869
On October 23 2011 09:44 Garnet wrote:
[image loading]
Congrats to people who called top 3 on this pic.


oh man thats a hot picture
banelings
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5870
On October 23 2011 09:47 Swiv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:43 Brainling wrote:
Want to have the buzz from a fun finals killed faster than anything? Come to the TL thread. Jesus, you people are seriously some whiners. This community has taken a serious nose dive since SC2 started to become popular. We've even got people in here complaining about the crowd. Are you serious? The crowed has been awesome. Oh no, they left because they wanted to go see some other stuff at Blizzcon. They are obviously not hardcore enough for us.

Ugg, I have no idea why I even came to this thread. I guess I had hoped to see some excitement for a fun to watch game, but nope...just people complaining about everything, as per usual.

if you want to enjoy a match/tourney, you dont read lrs paralell


that's not how it used to be in bw

so much more anger and race hate in sc2 LR threads
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5871
On October 23 2011 09:44 Kylereeves13 wrote:
I would like to say that before this thread gets closed that you are totally disrespecting Nestea. Not only Nestea but his whole team and everyone that helps him train for events.
Can we get a banhammer on this guy? I will love you mods forever and ever.

Well apart from you backseat modding I disagree with you aswell,

I am one of the most avid NesTea fans ever, he's the reason I've paid for the GSL since forever and I as a fan feel sad at his performance in the last game, it just wasn't the same NesTea who beat sCfOu on the worst zerg map ever or who comes back from any hardship.

He just let it all fall apart for no apparent reason and I just can't accept that he performed his outmost, as a avid fan I can even proclaim I know he didn't perform his outmost because I've seen it.
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5872
On October 23 2011 09:45 tlrocksss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:44 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:43 freewareplayer wrote:
A tier 2 unit countering a tier 3 unit is ok, but a tier 2 unit countering the complete tier 3 of a race is not right no matter how you look at it

It's countered by the tier 1......


Ghost counter lings.

Not really, 300/0 of lings(12 lings) kill 200/100 ghost(1 ghost). Heck with 1 remax of pure lings, he could've probably killed a ton of the tanks, the pf and the ghosts(since the lings could've forced some splash on the ghosts) and wrecked some mining. With such a mineral bank, there are a tons of shit nestea could've done, but more importantly, getting such a huge bank instead of keep trading units with mvp was a huge blunder.
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5873
Years from now, when people talk about Blizzcon 2011, the first thing they would recall is the epic GSL final MVP vs MMA games and the cheer of M-M-A at the end. As to the Blizzon final, no one would actually care to remember.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
Tulkas25
Profile Joined August 2011
Greece292 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5874
On October 23 2011 09:43 Brainling wrote:
Want to have the buzz from a fun finals killed faster than anything? Come to the TL thread. Jesus, you people are seriously some whiners. This community has taken a serious nose dive since SC2 started to become popular. We've even got people in here complaining about the crowd. Are you serious? The crowed has been awesome. Oh no, they left because they wanted to go see some other stuff at Blizzcon. They are obviously not hardcore enough for us.

Ugg, I have no idea why I even came to this thread. I guess I had hoped to see some excitement for a fun to watch game, but nope...just people complaining about everything, as per usual.

i guess ppl dont understand that many ppl in that crowd dont even play sc2 and still managed to get excited for the most part...on the other hand our wonderful sc2 community almost had a heart attack when @ ipl 3 lol finals interrupted our precious little game...!sc2 wont be around forever as much as we love it but e-sports as a trend will still be around for many more years especially if we learn how to help it grow..stop whining and start enjoying.!
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5875
On October 23 2011 09:45 Micket wrote:
Can someone describe to me a max army that could touch MVP's army? I don't care how Nestea blundered in terms of defending expos, his bank was large enough for 4 remaxes. MVP's turtle on side expos was impenetrable, turrets, sensor towers everywhere. As blunderous Nestea's failed drops looked, he was faced without the problem of defeating the cloaked ghost army. Once MVP reached an economy of similar prowess as Nestea, he could start throwing drops everywhere just like a Zerg could throw zerglings away, and Nestea couldn't deal with it.

I blame Shakuras Plateau (which was the best Zerg map in the pool WTF)


He had almost no way to killing what MVP had in the end but he could have attacked alot more early and used some of all that income he had and not just save it.
adiga
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 00:49:47
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5876
Sorry but the first set of the finals was obliviously fixed, sorry but it seemed like Nestea wasn't even trying.
And the final match too, such a sloppy play by Nestea since the middle of the game, not trying to stop drops, leaving banes in overlords for ghosts to kill etc etc.
FIXED KK
Why the fuck would you want to stack up 14k minerals when you can remax in 1 min?!?!

User was temp banned for this post.
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5877
On October 23 2011 09:47 Angra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:45 tlrocksss wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:44 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:43 freewareplayer wrote:
A tier 2 unit countering a tier 3 unit is ok, but a tier 2 unit countering the complete tier 3 of a race is not right no matter how you look at it

It's countered by the tier 1......


Ghost counter lings.


lol?

and immortals counter mutas

see i can make up shit too

I actually lol'd
www.superbeerbrothers.com
3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
October 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#5878
last game looked exactly like DarkForce vs ThorZain at ESWC, both DF and NesTea didn't seem to know what to do to handle this many ghosts.
Also building only broodlords with nearly nothing as AA except some infestors (which couldn't stand a chance against this many ghosts) seems to me that NesTea didn't bother loosing against MVP.
Apart from that it was awesome to watch it, loved the huge crowd
Hello Sir, do you have a minute for atheism?
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
October 23 2011 00:49 GMT
#5879
The 27 brood lords was just a terrible decision.

Nestea was fully aware of the large amount of Ghosts present and likely spotted the vikings as well.
With 14k minerals and 6k gas he should've just made a ton of hatches and queens and spammed MVP to death with Roaches/Lings/Banelings.

Regardless of how Ghosts fare against Brood Lords, if you lost 8-10 brood lords earlier to a bunch of ghosts and you know his ghost count is twice that now, why make 27 brood lords.
It's like massing Hydras against Tanks.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 23 2011 00:49 GMT
#5880
On October 23 2011 09:46 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:43 Doodsmack wrote:
Poll: Did MVP and NesTea agree beforehand to split the pot?

Yes (143)
 
63%

No (84)
 
37%

227 total votes

Your vote: Did MVP and NesTea agree beforehand to split the pot?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Where's the "no, you're a fucking idiot" answer?

You must be new to esport then

Your the one that must be new to esport if you think he did
You overlook tons of the defence/harass that went on early to even get near the endgame
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
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