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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
AutomatonOmega
Profile Joined February 2011
United States706 Posts
October 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#5781
Browder up there proudly wearing his Terran shirt.

With a prize pool of that size, you'd think they'd give a shit about map balance.
framtidenskrig
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden92 Posts
October 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#5782
That gotta be the worst price ceremony ever lolz....
75-80°C are absolutly fine! A CPU can handle ~95-100°C. User was banned from Tech Support for being wrong.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
October 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#5783
On October 23 2011 09:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:35 whirlpool wrote:
Darkforce handle late game Zerg better than Nestea, he won vs MVP in that situation in Geforce tourney


no darkforce handled that late game zerg better than Nestea...in that game. The rest of the tournament he played fantastic. His play was just strange at the end. He simply wasn't really doing anything for some reason.

Thorzain vs Darkforce game 3 in ESWC was very similar. Same map, same tacs and same outcome.
Samiz
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada165 Posts
October 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#5784
Incredible Miracles is going home with a boatload of money
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#5785
The only maps you can mass ghosts like that on are shakuras and metal and seeing as how those maps are pretty damn good for zergs, especially metal, you should be able to end the game in the mid - early late game.
exterminatus
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (North)142 Posts
October 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#5786
These akward and rushed closing ceremonies are killing esports
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#5787
On October 23 2011 09:41 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:34 adeezy wrote:
have a feeling they are going to split hte first and 2nd winners between the two of them for 37,500 each lol


Could be, they are teammates afterall. That was some weak play by Nestea in that last game.


Since they are on the same team and its a Korean team they probably dont get that much of the prize at all so its fine whoever gets it anyway the team will divy it up.
vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
October 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#5788
nestea should have given david kim a bitch slap on stage lol
For the swarm!
torm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada274 Posts
October 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#5789
On October 23 2011 09:41 wxwx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:39 Benjef wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:37 Tiazi wrote:
I smell a money split.

Nestea played ridiculous..

Wouldn't suprise me. That last game was show matchy.

Either way sick game :D.

I'm just dissapointed MVP left the stage so fast lost his chance for all the cheers as most people left QQ


Nestea came into the game with a 1-0 advantage in sets. He'd have to be really nice or really unconfident to accept a prize split.


or be on the same team as the player that just lost GSL Finals and vowed to start his comeback by winning blizzcon Finals
tlassg
Profile Joined February 2011
84 Posts
October 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#5790
do people really think lings are a counter to ghosts?

protecting ghosts vs their "counter" : park a few helions/marines

protectings zerg units vs ghosts : requiring either ridiculous infestor/overseer/dancing broodlord micro or lose.



zex66
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada651 Posts
October 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#5791
On October 23 2011 09:41 MrCon wrote:
With 14k mineral and no a lot of gas, nestea should really had made 6 hatches 6 queens more and just spamed lings :D Only what, 5 tanks ? + the useless vikings and ghosts, that wasn't a lot of effective supply for MVP against lings...could have sent 3 or 4 broodlords alone to siege the bottom expand to tax MVP multitasking, then just made 3 max waves of lings, with 10+ hatches xD


Exactly this. He honestly could've massed lings and won with his 14k easily.
PinaryB
Profile Joined January 2011
Estonia148 Posts
October 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#5792
On October 23 2011 09:41 diverzee wrote:
MVP so used to winning he isn't even excited? :/

I want to see loss of control, screaming and hollering and most importantly: Passion!

(or the poor guy's just tired I guess...but still)

they were asked to go backstage
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
October 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#5793
Worst crowd ever, the crowd in the Warsaw Blizzard Invitational was much better and it was WAY smaller.

Awesome games though, congrats Mvp! :D
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
October 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#5794
On October 23 2011 09:37 fant0m wrote:
So fucking easy for Mvp to force Nestea to need twice his APM to keep up. Just set the rallies use shift to queue up 3 drops and 3 nukes at once, impossible to deal with every location on the map at once with melee units. Marines beat everything in the air, so you have to run around map architecture while Terran just flies over it.

Meanwhile, Zerg's options are easy to clean up and can't be sent to multiple locations at once. Nydus never even got planted, and he wasn't even able to drop all of his overlords.

Siege tanks with turrets and marines beat everything coming out of 1 choke except T3, yet he still has so much supply cap (due to only needing 50 fucking workers - hell he only needed like 20-30 at the end) that he can just mass Ghosts and Vikings and defeat every T3 combination at the same time. 2 Thors + 3/3 marines make any number of Mutas worthless.

Seriously, there is literally nothing that Nestea could have done. His APM was easily stretched to the brink, and we're talking about Nestea here, he looked horrible because there is literally no way to control your army in that many places and keep up with Terran "APM" of 3 shift clicks and a shift+D that he set up 2 minutes earlier.

The map sucks balls in a split map scenario of course, but literally EVERY MAP has a choke somewhere, and that's ALL Terran needs.


You are retarded, honestly. Why don't you take your balance whine and get out? It's not even worth it to respond to all the nonsense you said in this post because you clearly have no clue at all.

User was temp banned for this post.
Tulkas25
Profile Joined August 2011
Greece292 Posts
October 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#5795
as for OP ghosts and crap and sorry for double post.....yes ghost are amazing and all that stuff but for most ppl is not that easy to get such a huge amount of ghosts..Nestea allowed Mvp to get so many ghosts by being extremely passive that game....all 3 caster units from its race are actually way too good...dont tell me that u havent seen few high templars or few infestors win shitloads of games??? common ppl thats sc every race can and does indeed win..!Good tournament overall and i really hope blizzard makes a double stream or something next year so we can see more games..even if the second stream or something is in the virtual ticket packet...!
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#5796
Poll: Did MVP and NesTea agree beforehand to split the pot?

Yes (143)
 
63%

No (84)
 
37%

227 total votes

Your vote: Did MVP and NesTea agree beforehand to split the pot?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



User was temp banned for this post.
Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
October 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#5797
The crowd left because the closing ceremony starts in 20 minutes. If you've ever been to blizzcon, you know finding a seat is a pain.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#5798
Slasher said if MVP wins in an epic game with snipes he will shave his hair off.
twitch.tv/medrea
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#5799
On October 23 2011 09:41 Biane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:40 PureLuckz wrote:
MVP prob thinking: "WTF the crowd was 25x bigger last night when MMA kicked my ass. No ones likes me T.T"


And it was much later a night too, the MMA vs MVP games compared to todays


No kidding. They didn't end till about 12:30 am and it was still packed
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
October 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#5800
After that bad play of nestea at the end he did not deserve to win. The thing I just want to say is that I feel ghosts are too good of a unit in my opinion. They should either have emp or cloak and never both since that is a very powerful spell and snipes make them strong enough against casters anyway. take away their cloak and everything is okay. Right now they are a cloaked unit that can destroy especially zerg detection very fast and from far away.
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