Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik

thesauceishot

Canada333 Posts

October 22 2011 21:33 GMT

#2261

On October 23 2011 06:33 27raven wrote:

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EPIC

Omg. Did they not show them!?

Roynalf

Finland886 Posts

October 22 2011 21:34 GMT

#2262

On October 23 2011 06:31 Nash wrote:

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On October 23 2011 06:28 Elean wrote:

On October 23 2011 06:04 JJH777 wrote:

On October 23 2011 06:02 Thurken wrote:

On October 23 2011 05:45 Sc2Null wrote:

On October 23 2011 05:44 cyclone25 wrote:

On October 23 2011 05:42 MasterKush wrote:

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On October 23 2011 05:39 Flowjo wrote:

On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything.

Yea, I used Nerchio style to I guess cause I roach all in after 16 drones.... which is a standard all in. So I guess all the Zergs in the world all have Nerchio style to use when they wanna all in.

Guys (for everyone responding like you) learn to spot sarcasm...

Just the same as Ling/Infestor not being the "Stephano" build. He may play that style but it doesn't mean he owns it, which is why its annoying to hear commentators like Day9 throwing it out there.

I agree, ling/infestor was invented by Destiny actually.

actually it was used in the beta before muta/bling came into popularity.

He did not invent it. He was not the first pro player that used it. Players in the beta used similar strategies
But that's not really the point.
The point is that Stephano was the one that showed that this strategy was still viable against top players at this point of the game.
This do not imply that Nestea surely copied him, but it is possible that Nestea reconsidered this strategy after ipl3...

Considering Nestea used this exact strat and build against MVP in the ro8 of GSL a single day after IPL3 ended I highly doubt that. I highly doubt he even watched those games until after his match (if at all) he was definitely busy training to beat MVP.

So what ?
Stephano has been using this strat more than 2 months before IPL3, and since Nestea doesn't live in the US he should know about it.

It's Stephano who invented this strategy, and showed it is viable at the highest level, noone else.
Or maybe you can find a vod of someone getting a fast hive only to get adrenaline glands before Stephano ?

People saying this build existed in the beta are stupid, because the game was so much different that it's simply not possible to be the same build/strategy.

haha what? because nestea doesnt live in the US he should know about the strategy?

hello logic, meet window.

He means that ppl in USA are ignorant about starcraft scene at EU

crms

United States11933 Posts

October 22 2011 21:34 GMT

#2263

naniwa lost? why didn't i get to watch those games. :-(

Mouzone

3937 Posts

October 22 2011 21:34 GMT

#2264

On October 23 2011 06:33 Telcontar wrote:

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I know right? Talk about the best series of SC2's history.

That third game was out of this world, lol. Sickest shit i've witnessed so far in my SC2.

sitromit

7051 Posts

October 22 2011 21:34 GMT

#2265

I'm glad Naniwa lost, his lack of humility lately has been really grating. There's a difference between being confident and hard-working, and overestimating your skills and blaming it only on imbalance when you lose.

habbey

United States405 Posts

October 22 2011 21:34 GMT

#2266

On October 23 2011 06:30 positron. wrote:

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I don't think there has ever been a player came from the loser bracket and won the grand final. They should ditch this stupid format all together, the only thing it guarantees is an anti climatic "grand" final. What's the reasoning behind using this dumb format?

while the loser bracket's winner might not win often, what it does for certain is guarantee the overall ranking of the players is much closer to actual skill level than a single elim. As double elim helps get rid of some luck based factors, such as uneven brackets. Of course double elim has this too, but it is less so than single elim.

JJH777

United States4417 Posts

October 22 2011 21:34 GMT

#2267

On October 23 2011 06:28 Elean wrote:

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Just be quiet please. Do you really think Nestea just outright lied about stealing that build? He said he made it and I doubt he would care about giving credit to stephano if he really did steal it. People give credit to other players for their builds all the time in interviews. I guarantee he didn't even know who Stephano was before IPL3 and since he used it within a day of that ending there's no way he copied it.

zyzq

United States3123 Posts

October 22 2011 21:34 GMT

#2268

no zvz finals plz

Fearest

854 Posts

October 22 2011 21:34 GMT

#2269

This will be the best series of the whole tournament guys.

shabby

Norway6402 Posts