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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
sirreginold
Profile Joined September 2011
United States557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 21:28:08
October 22 2011 21:27 GMT
#2221
So the winner of Sen-MVP face Nestea in the grand finals?
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
October 22 2011 21:27 GMT
#2222
I think this tournament had been a real disappointment not because of the matches they didn't show, hut just because it was an invite only tourney with relatively underwhelming people (compared to the Koreans at least) playing for third prize. At least MLg has a variety of Koreans to vie for prizes, and even then it has proved to be prone to upsets, but bluzzcon, I don't think anyone doubted a mvp nestea finish... And that it doesn't make for a compelling tourney.
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 21:28:54
October 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#2223
On October 23 2011 06:27 sirreginold wrote:
so what is the bracket like now?

Very similar to the one on liquipedia...
And bbm, there were qualifiers for each region.
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
October 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#2224
On October 23 2011 06:27 sirreginold wrote:
so what is the bracket like now?

Mvp vs Sen in the losers final while Nestea waits in the grand final
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 21:29:42
October 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#2225
On October 23 2011 06:04 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:02 Thurken wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:45 Sc2Null wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:44 cyclone25 wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:42 MasterKush wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:40 wats0n wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:39 Flowjo wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything.


Yea, I used Nerchio style to I guess cause I roach all in after 16 drones.... which is a standard all in. So I guess all the Zergs in the world all have Nerchio style to use when they wanna all in.


Guys (for everyone responding like you) learn to spot sarcasm...


Just the same as Ling/Infestor not being the "Stephano" build. He may play that style but it doesn't mean he owns it, which is why its annoying to hear commentators like Day9 throwing it out there.


I agree, ling/infestor was invented by Destiny actually.


actually it was used in the beta before muta/bling came into popularity.


He did not invent it. He was not the first pro player that used it. Players in the beta used similar strategies
But that's not really the point.
The point is that Stephano was the one that showed that this strategy was still viable against top players at this point of the game.
This do not imply that Nestea surely copied him, but it is possible that Nestea reconsidered this strategy after ipl3...


Considering Nestea used this exact strat and build against MVP in the ro8 of GSL a single day after IPL3 ended I highly doubt that. I highly doubt he even watched those games until after his match (if at all) he was definitely busy training to beat MVP.

So what ?
Stephano has been using this strat more than 2 months before IPL3, and since Nestea doesn't live in the US he should know about it.

It's Stephano who invented this strategy, and showed it is viable at the highest level, noone else.
Or maybe you can find a vod of someone getting a fast hive only to get adrenaline glands before Stephano ?

People saying this build existed in the beta are stupid, because the game was so much different that it's simply not possible to be the same build/strategy.

habbey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States405 Posts
October 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#2226
On October 23 2011 06:25 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:23 habbey wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:20 ThisGS wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:19 justinpal wrote:
Why are the semis and finals for both brackets Bo3 if they aren't streaming every match?


for the same reason they use this mappool.


Actually it has to stay at bo3 because it is double elim, otherwise it'd be really unfair to the players. So this is the right choice by blizzard.


Why? The players would have to play more games?


because of the inequality of some one "losing" once when it was bo3 vs now having to win two bo7s. See they only lost two games before and now have to makeup for it by winning 4. that is where the unfairness comes in.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
October 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#2227
On October 23 2011 06:24 foxmeep wrote:
If by looking at this schedule, you cannot figure out why there is downtime... well then you're an idiot.

http://us.battle.net/blizzcon/en/event-info/schedule/saturday-schedule

Hint: there's more than just SC2 at Blizzcon


so?

people there can just make some choices about what they want to see.
iFlow
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3 Posts
October 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#2228
Everybody does know that blizzcon is more than a SC2 tourney... right?
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
October 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#2229
On October 23 2011 06:28 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:27 sirreginold wrote:
so what is the bracket like now?

Very similar to the one on liquipedia


There's a lot of funny people on TL forums today, I can't stop laughing.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
October 22 2011 21:29 GMT
#2230
Blizzard's mistake was to assume that every battle.net region was equal, and thus invited 2 players from each region. Of course, they aren't equal, and fantastic players from KR/EU/US were left out to make room for token appearances.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 21:30:01
October 22 2011 21:29 GMT
#2231
On October 23 2011 06:25 tymt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:15 OTIX wrote:
Don't be mad guys, how about some religion to pass the time?

http://www.livestream.com/carmellive

thank you for this, you saved my evening. <3


The trolling in chat was the funniest thing I've seen in a while.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Santiago4ever
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden299 Posts
October 22 2011 21:29 GMT
#2232
Calm down people. They are obviously playing the games on that non-existent LAN that SC2 doesn't support. That's why they can't let some awesome caster just jump into the game and stream even if they can't use the main stage. Seriously what are you guys complaining about.
Ernest Hemingway once wrote: The world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 22 2011 21:29 GMT
#2233
Koreans still going strong in WoW apparently xD
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
October 22 2011 21:29 GMT
#2234
On October 23 2011 06:23 justinpal wrote:
I had a friend in high school that said I had a 50% chance to become president in 10 years. "You either do or you don't." Needless to say I'm a convicted murderer.


People who use probabilities to define SC2 skills should be slapped. With an ultralisk.
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
October 22 2011 21:30 GMT
#2235
On October 23 2011 06:29 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:25 tymt wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:15 OTIX wrote:
Don't be mad guys, how about some religion to pass the time?

http://www.livestream.com/carmellive

thank you for this, you saved my evening. <3


The trolling in chat was the finniest thing I've seen in a while.



It seems they had a visit from TL community lol too bad I missed it

dbosworld: Wouldn't you want to educate them rather than shun them?
christina1471: is it still bob who does the livestream carmel
Charieo: hello Flarre
ben_Morpeth: yes -but they were being abusive
carmellive: Goodnight all, see you tomorrow
Charieo: welcome russia
dbosworld: Not all, the inappropriate ones I approve of the ban, but some weren't so bad.
christina1471: welcome flarre
Charieo: i will be at church when you have this tomorrow
carmellive: They can still see the site, just not allowed to speak
dbosworld: That's not what I am asking
ben_Morpeth: the ones who were banned were all being abusive dbos

Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
October 22 2011 21:30 GMT
#2236
people who disagree don't even know what they're disagreeing with
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
October 22 2011 21:30 GMT
#2237
On October 23 2011 06:28 habbey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:25 justinpal wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:23 habbey wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:20 ThisGS wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:19 justinpal wrote:
Why are the semis and finals for both brackets Bo3 if they aren't streaming every match?


for the same reason they use this mappool.


Actually it has to stay at bo3 because it is double elim, otherwise it'd be really unfair to the players. So this is the right choice by blizzard.


Why? The players would have to play more games?


because of the inequality of some one "losing" once when it was bo3 vs now having to win two bo7s. See they only lost two games before and now have to makeup for it by winning 4. that is where the unfairness comes in.

I don't think there has ever been a player came from the loser bracket and won the grand final. They should ditch this stupid format all together, the only thing it guarantees is an anti climatic "grand" final. What's the reasoning behind using this dumb format?
Kamikazess
Profile Joined February 2011
Brazil400 Posts
October 22 2011 21:30 GMT
#2238
Finally it will begin.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
October 22 2011 21:31 GMT
#2239
On October 23 2011 06:27 svefnleysi wrote:
I'm a Nestea fan, but I feel really bad for MVP. Everyone was expecting him to win both tournaments, but now it looks like he'll be taking neither.

By the way, screw Starcraft - TriviaCraft for the win.


Same here, he might come back though.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
October 22 2011 21:31 GMT
#2240
On October 23 2011 06:30 Odoakar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:29 hitpoint wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:25 tymt wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:15 OTIX wrote:
Don't be mad guys, how about some religion to pass the time?

http://www.livestream.com/carmellive

thank you for this, you saved my evening. <3


The trolling in chat was the finniest thing I've seen in a while.



It seems they had a visit from TL community lol too bad I missed it

dbosworld: Wouldn't you want to educate them rather than shun them?
christina1471: is it still bob who does the livestream carmel
Charieo: hello Flarre
ben_Morpeth: yes -but they were being abusive
carmellive: Goodnight all, see you tomorrow
Charieo: welcome russia
dbosworld: Not all, the inappropriate ones I approve of the ban, but some weren't so bad.
christina1471: welcome flarre
Charieo: i will be at church when you have this tomorrow
carmellive: They can still see the site, just not allowed to speak
dbosworld: That's not what I am asking
ben_Morpeth: the ones who were banned were all being abusive dbos



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It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
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