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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.
TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.
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On October 23 2011 06:28 Elean wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 06:04 JJH777 wrote:On October 23 2011 06:02 Thurken wrote:On October 23 2011 05:45 Sc2Null wrote:On October 23 2011 05:44 cyclone25 wrote:On October 23 2011 05:42 MasterKush wrote:On October 23 2011 05:40 wats0n wrote:On October 23 2011 05:39 Flowjo wrote:On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything. Yea, I used Nerchio style to I guess cause I roach all in after 16 drones.... which is a standard all in. So I guess all the Zergs in the world all have Nerchio style to use when they wanna all in. Guys (for everyone responding like you) learn to spot sarcasm... Just the same as Ling/Infestor not being the "Stephano" build. He may play that style but it doesn't mean he owns it, which is why its annoying to hear commentators like Day9 throwing it out there. I agree, ling/infestor was invented by Destiny actually. actually it was used in the beta before muta/bling came into popularity. He did not invent it. He was not the first pro player that used it. Players in the beta used similar strategies But that's not really the point. The point is that Stephano was the one that showed that this strategy was still viable against top players at this point of the game. This do not imply that Nestea surely copied him, but it is possible that Nestea reconsidered this strategy after ipl3... Considering Nestea used this exact strat and build against MVP in the ro8 of GSL a single day after IPL3 ended I highly doubt that. I highly doubt he even watched those games until after his match (if at all) he was definitely busy training to beat MVP. So what ? Stephano has been using this strat more than 2 months before IPL3, and since Nestea doesn't live in the US he should know about it. It's Stephano who invented this strategy, and showed it is viable at the highest level, noone else. Or maybe you can find a vod of someone getting a fast hive only to get adrenaline glands before Stephano ? People saying this build existed in the beta are stupid, because the game was so much different that it's simply not possible to be the same build/strategy.
haha what? because nestea doesnt live in the US he should know about the strategy?
hello logic, meet window.
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On October 23 2011 06:27 bbm wrote:
I think this tournament had been a real disappointment not because of the matches they didn't show, hut just because it was an invite only tourney with relatively underwhelming people (compared to the Koreans at least) playing for third prize. At least MLg has a variety of Koreans to vie for prizes, and even then it has proved to be prone to upsets, but bluzzcon, I don't think anyone doubted a mvp nestea finish... And that it doesn't make for a compelling tourney.
It wasn't invite only unless you're talking about china server (due to visa problems), there were qualifiers among some REALLY good players. Admittedly, some of the qualifiers were invite only, but they were arguably the best at the time of the qualifiers for each region.
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On October 23 2011 06:30 Kokujin wrote:
people who disagree don't even know what they're disagreeing with
I disagree.
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On October 23 2011 06:30 Odoakar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 06:29 hitpoint wrote:On October 23 2011 06:25 tymt wrote: thank you for this, you saved my evening. <3 The trolling in chat was the finniest thing I've seen in a while. It seems they had a visit from TL community lol too bad I missed it
dbosworld: Wouldn't you want to educate them rather than shun them?
christina1471: is it still bob who does the livestream carmel
Charieo: hello Flarre
ben_Morpeth: yes -but they were being abusive
carmellive: Goodnight all, see you tomorrow
Charieo: welcome russia
dbosworld: Not all, the inappropriate ones I approve of the ban, but some weren't so bad.
christina1471: welcome flarre
Charieo: i will be at church when you have this tomorrow
carmellive: They can still see the site, just not allowed to speak
dbosworld: That's not what I am asking
ben_Morpeth: the ones who were banned were all being abusive dbos
lol
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Where did they show the naniwa/sen series? I didnt see it
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I'm torn... a rematch of MVP vs. Nestea would be a much better grand final than zvz
but...
<3 <3 Sen. He's also a foreigner
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how were the naniwa/sen games? i missed it.
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On October 23 2011 06:32 Jayrod wrote:
Where did they show the naniwa/sen series? I didnt see it
Oh man, it was so awesome.
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It's really irritating me how JP pronounces Sen as "sin".
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On October 23 2011 06:31 dbosworld wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 06:30 Odoakar wrote:On October 23 2011 06:29 hitpoint wrote:On October 23 2011 06:25 tymt wrote: thank you for this, you saved my evening. <3 The trolling in chat was the finniest thing I've seen in a while. It seems they had a visit from TL community lol too bad I missed it
dbosworld: Wouldn't you want to educate them rather than shun them?
christina1471: is it still bob who does the livestream carmel
Charieo: hello Flarre
ben_Morpeth: yes -but they were being abusive
carmellive: Goodnight all, see you tomorrow
Charieo: welcome russia
dbosworld: Not all, the inappropriate ones I approve of the ban, but some weren't so bad.
christina1471: welcome flarre
Charieo: i will be at church when you have this tomorrow
carmellive: They can still see the site, just not allowed to speak
dbosworld: That's not what I am asking
ben_Morpeth: the ones who were banned were all being abusive dbos LOL! Christians don't appear to be very open to new people!
banning trolls is bad now?
not biased at all are we?
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On October 23 2011 06:32 pirates wrote:
how were the naniwa/sen games? i missed it.
EPIC
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On October 23 2011 06:28 talismania wrote:so? people there can just make some choices about what they want to see.
You're basically saying they should cater for people only interested in SC2 watching a FREE stream, as opposed to people that have paid however much it costs to buy a ticket to be there.
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On October 23 2011 06:32 OTIX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 06:32 Jayrod wrote:
Where did they show the naniwa/sen series? I didnt see it Oh man, it was so awesome.
I know right? Talk about the best series of SC2's history.
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On October 23 2011 06:22 Odoakar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 06:19 Leifish wrote:On October 23 2011 06:18 Kokujin wrote:On October 23 2011 06:12 TheBB wrote:On October 23 2011 06:08 Koshi wrote:On October 23 2011 06:07 TheBB wrote:On October 23 2011 05:54 redloser wrote:On October 23 2011 05:52 cyclone25 wrote:On October 23 2011 05:50 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 23 2011 05:48 ZAiNs wrote:
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Naniwa and BratOK both took a game off him in group stage.
Anyone can take a game but when it comes to a BO5/7 it's 0% chance for them. All games are bo3, the only exception is the overall final where the player coming from the lower bracket has to win 2x bo3. winning two consecutive Bo3's against Nestea would be harder than winning a single Bo5 I think :/ I ran the numbers. Two consecutive Bo3's are actually easier to win. Kidding me? Seriously? What numbers did you run? Herp derp. I switched my probabilities. Anyway: Let p be the probability of Nestea winning a given set. Then the probability of a challenger winning a best of three is (2p+1)(1-p)^2, and the probability of the challenger winning two in a row is (2p+1)^2(1-p)^4. The probability of the challenger winning a best of five, however, is (1+3p+6p^2)(1-p)^3. The ratio of the former to the latter is (2p+1)^2(1-p)/(1+3p+6p^2) = (1+3p-4p^3)/(1+3p+6p^2) < 1. what kind of jibberish is this? the probability of any player winning a set no matter bo3 or bo5 is 50% given each player is equally skilled, and in this case we have that assumption. immvp has to win two coinflips to win the series, while nestea has to win one. thus, bo5 is easier than two bo3. To ad hominim here, you're an idiot. Exactly. I was channeling my inner cartman, like the fuck is this shit? o_0 That's like saying I have 50% chance to score a goal from 500 miles from goal. Either I score or I don't.
Or people have a 50% chance of winning the lottery. They either do or they don't! I'm gunna be rich!
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WHAT!!? naniwa and sen played? did they show that on stream?
I swore I saw the schedule that it was about to play now... WTF
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Wow, what a way to rub it in MVP's face. I bet he's real mad now to rip some ass.
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wtf. here is a video of mvp.
Shows mma winning.
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On October 23 2011 06:32 Nash wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 06:31 dbosworld wrote:On October 23 2011 06:30 Odoakar wrote:On October 23 2011 06:29 hitpoint wrote:On October 23 2011 06:25 tymt wrote: thank you for this, you saved my evening. <3 The trolling in chat was the finniest thing I've seen in a while. It seems they had a visit from TL community lol too bad I missed it
dbosworld: Wouldn't you want to educate them rather than shun them?
christina1471: is it still bob who does the livestream carmel
Charieo: hello Flarre
ben_Morpeth: yes -but they were being abusive
carmellive: Goodnight all, see you tomorrow
Charieo: welcome russia
dbosworld: Not all, the inappropriate ones I approve of the ban, but some weren't so bad.
christina1471: welcome flarre
Charieo: i will be at church when you have this tomorrow
carmellive: They can still see the site, just not allowed to speak
dbosworld: That's not what I am asking
ben_Morpeth: the ones who were banned were all being abusive dbos LOL! Christians don't appear to be very open to new people! banning trolls is bad now? not biased at all are we?
I told them that I was okay with banning the Inappropriate ones, but they banned a few that I didn't feel they had to.
Anyways, GOGO SEN
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