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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:28 NEOtheONE wrote: MC had a 1 hour break when IdrA was playing that grueling Macro series vs Bomber. Both Idra and MC had played ten games before that match up. If Idra hadn't let BoxeR "cheese" him three times then well... Idra's own fault! | ||
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:28 Canucklehead wrote: He sure has! It's just idra fanboys making excuses for him. And again, Idra stated very clearly during IPL3 that progamers are used to playing many many hours of games straight. So you are disrespecting him by using the lame fatigue excuse. You are a bad fanboy. | ||
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
PLEASE READ THIS MLG... OR A PANEL WITH INCONTROL LIKE WITH IPL | ||
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Shurayuki
Germany2665 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:28 HowardRoark wrote: Damn, Protoss games really make for esport killers  So boring. I am thrilled for HotS, Dustin must redesign the race.yeah i know right i mean that kiwikaki stephano game was the most fucking boring game i have.ever.seen. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:29 Lobotomist wrote: I don't know why Protoss players try so many two base all-ins. Look at games 1 and 2 of Idra vs MC. Game 1 MC takes a third, defends it by sitting his units in the middle of the three bases, macros up a bunch of collosus, pushes out and wins. Game two, MC tries to do chargelot archon on two base vs a Idra who always goes roach. MC doesn't ever take a third base, Idra gets 4+ bases and wins. Game 3 MC gets a huge advantage off a two base push, but only because he essentially tricked idra with the push. If idra sees that coming (which I suppose he probably should have) There's a good chance that Idra holds it while taking an advantage. It's all about the maps. It's pretty much impossible to take a safe third as protoss in Dual Sight. | ||
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whirlpool
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:28 Theo wrote: That game felt like a blast out of the past. MC beats IdrA with massive amounts of blink stalkers.... IdrA had to play so many people one after another and MC just gets to come in do a blink stalker build and wave his hands around in victory. lol idra fans are the best. they cry every time he loses. MC played the same number of games to get here. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:27 Hertzy wrote: Is it just me, or did the casters focus on Idra's opponents way more than on Idra during all his series just now? It's the nature of the Zerg matchups. The other guy makes the decisions, its up to Zerg to respond properly. So naturally they will focus more on the P or T and see what Idra is doing in relation. | ||
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diophan
United States1018 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:27 Seiferz wrote: you do realize that idras games were all 30+ minute macro games that went down to the wire? I think you missed the boxer series  | ||
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Noktix
United States492 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:29 Lobotomist wrote: I don't know why Protoss players try so many two base all-ins. Look at games 1 and 2 of Idra vs MC. Game 1 MC takes a third, defends it by sitting his units in the middle of the three bases, macros up a bunch of collosus, pushes out and wins. Game two, MC tries to do chargelot archon on two base vs a Idra who always goes roach. MC doesn't ever take a third base, Idra gets 4+ bases and wins. Game 3 MC gets a huge advantage off a two base push, but only because he essentially tricked idra with the push. If idra sees that coming (which I suppose he probably should have) There's a good chance that Idra holds it while taking an advantage. They don't. MC did 2 base on dual sight because its an awful map where Protoss is not able to take a 3rd. The other games MC macro'd up. Whats your point? | ||
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Caesarion
Australia8332 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:29 Resilient wrote: You think Boxer (with extended), Hongun and Bomber is harder than Rain ret, Puma and MKP? Also Pool A was weaker than Pool D But you are forgetting that IdrA had to face MC. | ||
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sirreginold
United States557 Posts
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minhbq299
United Kingdom566 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:27 MrCon wrote: We he teched but to the wrong tech. In face of that sea of bstalkers, pure well upgraded lings and infestors are way better, cheaper, easy to reproduce than broodlords imo. Well, unless he manage to morph like 10 blords at once so he get an insta-critical mass. But that's hard to do without dying. Idra trying too much thing, the banelings burst do no damage, he should have do blings drop, instead of suiciding blings into blink stalkers like that, without infestors. And that strat from MC is crazily smart, he get voidray out to clear the overlord from the map, then making a secret blink stalkers army and kill the third when Idra dont even know MC moved out yet. It totally caught Idra off guard. | ||
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duct_TAPE
492 Posts
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IR0NMAN
Canada11 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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yowza
Finland210 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:27 haitike wrote: havent MC played the same or more in a row? Not in continuation. IdrA just played Hongun, bomber, and MC in consecutive fashion. However, IdrA did say at the IPL player panels that pros are expected to do this and most of them dont get as tried as fans may think. This is because they play for hours on end regularly. Despite his comments, he probably did feel some mental and physical fatigue cause those were pretty intense games. Either well, well played by MC, hope he gets his code S spot, hes so close now. | ||
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ssartor
United States129 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:28 Markwerf wrote: Too bad idra's ZvP is horrible. His tactics in that matchup always seem awful, the game he did win was basically just thrown away by MC.. Why would you go bane/roach instead of infestor/roach is beyond me, banes are absolutely horrible against a player of MC's caliber as a little blinking completely avoids their splash damage. Bane drops are just terrible in ZvP if you are using roaches as well since P knows how to micro against it now. I'm happy MC won though and I hope he reclaims his code S spot, he definately deserves to be there, he is still the best protoss and he has defined alot of the popular strats. Meh, Stephano and Nerchio probably have better ZvPs than IdrA. It's his worst MU even though no foreigner Zerg is really that great at it. IdrA just doesn't understand ZvP all that well and it's been his mental block since Beta. | ||
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On October 17 2011 07:27 Seiferz wrote: you do realize that idras games were all 30+ minute macro games that went down to the wire? And MC's weren't? Taking on Ret then Puma then MKP in some sick games is pretty tough too. | ||
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