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MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15321
On October 17 2011 07:28 NEOtheONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 07:25 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On October 17 2011 07:24 Audigy wrote:
you guys forget idra has been playing like 6 hours straight. mlg should have let him take a break.


so did MC


MC had a 1 hour break when IdrA was playing that grueling Macro series vs Bomber.


Both Idra and MC had played ten games before that match up.

If Idra hadn't let BoxeR "cheese" him three times then well... Idra's own fault!
@followMVT
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15322
On October 17 2011 07:28 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 07:27 haitike wrote:
On October 17 2011 07:25 diverzee wrote:
I may be a bit of an Idra fanboy but seriously regardless what some people might've said I think the amount of hardcore games he had to play in a row had to have had some effect on his play. I'm far from a pro but I feel my ability dwindles after only 3 games ;P They should've allowed the poor guy a bit of a break in my opinion. Perhaps run the stc vs huk game in between one of the series.


havent MC played the same or more in a row?


He sure has! It's just idra fanboys making excuses for him.


And again, Idra stated very clearly during IPL3 that progamers are used to playing many many hours of games straight. So you are disrespecting him by using the lame fatigue excuse. You are a bad fanboy.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15323
On October 17 2011 07:30 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 07:29 zYwi3c wrote:
On October 17 2011 07:25 Cyro wrote:
On October 17 2011 07:25 McMonty wrote:
On October 17 2011 07:24 NuclearJudas wrote:
SOTG AFTER FINALS WITH HUK AND IDRA AS GUESTS, PLEASE MLG!


THIS!



THIS


THIS


THIS MUST HAPPEN!!!!!

PLEASE READ THIS MLG...

OR A PANEL WITH INCONTROL LIKE WITH IPL
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15324
On October 17 2011 07:28 HowardRoark wrote:
Damn, Protoss games really make for esport killers So boring. I am thrilled for HotS, Dustin must redesign the race.


yeah i know right

i mean that kiwikaki stephano game was the most fucking boring game i have.ever.seen.
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 22:30:43
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15325
On October 17 2011 07:29 Lobotomist wrote:
I don't know why Protoss players try so many two base all-ins. Look at games 1 and 2 of Idra vs MC. Game 1 MC takes a third, defends it by sitting his units in the middle of the three bases, macros up a bunch of collosus, pushes out and wins. Game two, MC tries to do chargelot archon on two base vs a Idra who always goes roach. MC doesn't ever take a third base, Idra gets 4+ bases and wins. Game 3 MC gets a huge advantage off a two base push, but only because he essentially tricked idra with the push. If idra sees that coming (which I suppose he probably should have) There's a good chance that Idra holds it while taking an advantage.


It's all about the maps. It's pretty much impossible to take a safe third as protoss in Dual Sight.
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15326
MC just has to beat the STC to win code S
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15327
On October 17 2011 07:28 Theo wrote:
That game felt like a blast out of the past. MC beats IdrA with massive amounts of blink stalkers.... IdrA had to play so many people one after another and MC just gets to come in do a blink stalker build and wave his hands around in victory.


lol idra fans are the best. they cry every time he loses.

MC played the same number of games to get here.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15328
On October 17 2011 07:27 Hertzy wrote:
Is it just me, or did the casters focus on Idra's opponents way more than on Idra during all his series just now?

It's the nature of the Zerg matchups. The other guy makes the decisions, its up to Zerg to respond properly. So naturally they will focus more on the P or T and see what Idra is doing in relation.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15329
On October 17 2011 07:27 Seiferz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 07:26 Scrandom wrote:
On October 17 2011 07:25 diverzee wrote:
I may be a bit of an Idra fanboy but seriously regardless what some people might've said I think the amount of hardcore games he had to play in a row had to have had some effect on his play. I'm far from a pro but I feel my ability dwindles after only 3 games ;P They should've allowed the poor guy a bit of a break in my opinion. Perhaps run the stc vs huk game in between one of the series.


Diverzee you do realize MC had to play the exact same amount as Idra did right?


you do realize that idras games were all 30+ minute macro games that went down to the wire?


I think you missed the boxer series
Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15330
On October 17 2011 07:29 Lobotomist wrote:
I don't know why Protoss players try so many two base all-ins. Look at games 1 and 2 of Idra vs MC. Game 1 MC takes a third, defends it by sitting his units in the middle of the three bases, macros up a bunch of collosus, pushes out and wins. Game two, MC tries to do chargelot archon on two base vs a Idra who always goes roach. MC doesn't ever take a third base, Idra gets 4+ bases and wins. Game 3 MC gets a huge advantage off a two base push, but only because he essentially tricked idra with the push. If idra sees that coming (which I suppose he probably should have) There's a good chance that Idra holds it while taking an advantage.


They don't. MC did 2 base on dual sight because its an awful map where Protoss is not able to take a 3rd. The other games MC macro'd up.

Whats your point?
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15331
On October 17 2011 07:29 Resilient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 07:28 GeuRiMo wrote:
IdrA had a tougher run then MC imo?


You think Boxer (with extended), Hongun and Bomber is harder than Rain ret, Puma and MKP? Also Pool A was weaker than Pool D


But you are forgetting that IdrA had to face MC.
sirreginold
Profile Joined September 2011
United States557 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15332
I think Idra had a good showing this MLG even though he's out now. I can see that he's definitely picked up his play. People shouldn't cry so much if their favorite player got knocked out.
minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 22:32:27
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15333
On October 17 2011 07:27 MrCon wrote:
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On October 17 2011 07:25 Azarkon wrote:
On October 17 2011 07:23 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 17 2011 07:22 teamsolid wrote:
There's just no way Idra could've done anything against all those blink stalkers when MC was on 4-base, and Idra was still staying on tier 2 tech.

IdrA had Hive already with Adrenal Glands on the way, his Greater Spire was finishing up and his +3 was almost done.


Yea he teched fine. Losing that hatch early on really hurt him.

It was a 2-base all-in that MC transitioned into a macro game. Not scouting the 2-base all-in was the reason IdrA lost. Not necessarily what came after.

We he teched but to the wrong tech. In face of that sea of bstalkers, pure well upgraded lings and infestors are way better, cheaper, easy to reproduce than broodlords imo.
Well, unless he manage to morph like 10 blords at once so he get an insta-critical mass. But that's hard to do without dying.


Idra trying too much thing, the banelings burst do no damage, he should have do blings drop, instead of suiciding blings into blink stalkers like that, without infestors.
And that strat from MC is crazily smart, he get voidray out to clear the overlord from the map, then making a secret blink stalkers army and kill the third when Idra dont even know MC moved out yet. It totally caught Idra off guard.
SlayerS_Puzzle, oGsMC, Liquid'Hero, FXOz, ST.Parting, , NSHoseoJjakji, SlayerS_CoCa, DRG
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15334
I don't really care about the games against MC, IdrA showed me all he had to do against Bomber, such beautiful ZvT.
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
IR0NMAN
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada11 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15335
MC showing off like he's a boss when he just beat a zerg player who's been playing 13 games straight. I hope MC chokes on his Kimchi tonight...

User was warned for this post
yowza
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 22:31:17
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15336
edit: nvm tired
derp
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15337
On October 17 2011 07:27 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 07:25 diverzee wrote:
I may be a bit of an Idra fanboy but seriously regardless what some people might've said I think the amount of hardcore games he had to play in a row had to have had some effect on his play. I'm far from a pro but I feel my ability dwindles after only 3 games ;P They should've allowed the poor guy a bit of a break in my opinion. Perhaps run the stc vs huk game in between one of the series.


havent MC played the same or more in a row?


Not in continuation. IdrA just played Hongun, bomber, and MC in consecutive fashion. However, IdrA did say at the IPL player panels that pros are expected to do this and most of them dont get as tried as fans may think. This is because they play for hours on end regularly. Despite his comments, he probably did feel some mental and physical fatigue cause those were pretty intense games. Either well, well played by MC, hope he gets his code S spot, hes so close now.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
ssartor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States129 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#15338
noooooooooo IDRA
"If you don't know, the thing to do is not to get scared, but to learn." — Ayn Rand (Atlas Shrugged)
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 16 2011 22:31 GMT
#15339
On October 17 2011 07:28 Markwerf wrote:
Too bad idra's ZvP is horrible. His tactics in that matchup always seem awful, the game he did win was basically just thrown away by MC..
Why would you go bane/roach instead of infestor/roach is beyond me, banes are absolutely horrible against a player of MC's caliber as a little blinking completely avoids their splash damage. Bane drops are just terrible in ZvP if you are using roaches as well since P knows how to micro against it now.

I'm happy MC won though and I hope he reclaims his code S spot, he definately deserves to be there, he is still the best protoss and he has defined alot of the popular strats.


Meh, Stephano and Nerchio probably have better ZvPs than IdrA. It's his worst MU even though no foreigner Zerg is really that great at it. IdrA just doesn't understand ZvP all that well and it's been his mental block since Beta.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
October 16 2011 22:31 GMT
#15340
On October 17 2011 07:27 Seiferz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 07:26 Scrandom wrote:
On October 17 2011 07:25 diverzee wrote:
I may be a bit of an Idra fanboy but seriously regardless what some people might've said I think the amount of hardcore games he had to play in a row had to have had some effect on his play. I'm far from a pro but I feel my ability dwindles after only 3 games ;P They should've allowed the poor guy a bit of a break in my opinion. Perhaps run the stc vs huk game in between one of the series.


Diverzee you do realize MC had to play the exact same amount as Idra did right?


you do realize that idras games were all 30+ minute macro games that went down to the wire?



And MC's weren't?

Taking on Ret then Puma then MKP in some sick games is pretty tough too.
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