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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 18 2011 14:52 GMT
#20161
I do think Idra should switch to Ling Muta PvZ. When playing Roach style, you build 70 drones, then turtle until you hit 200/200 roaches and attack the Protoss' third. With Ling Muta, you're constantly multitasking, which really fits Idra's style.
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
October 18 2011 16:49 GMT
#20162
On October 18 2011 23:52 -_- wrote:
I do think Idra should switch to Ling Muta PvZ. When playing Roach style, you build 70 drones, then turtle until you hit 200/200 roaches and attack the Protoss' third. With Ling Muta, you're constantly multitasking, which really fits Idra's style.


Not only that but I feel like toss will have a little bit harder time with Idra's muta control...especially if they don't have blink yet.
<3 Moonbattles
WhiteraCares
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden339 Posts
October 18 2011 16:57 GMT
#20163
On October 19 2011 01:49 Perseverance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:52 -_- wrote:
I do think Idra should switch to Ling Muta PvZ. When playing Roach style, you build 70 drones, then turtle until you hit 200/200 roaches and attack the Protoss' third. With Ling Muta, you're constantly multitasking, which really fits Idra's style.


Not only that but I feel like toss will have a little bit harder time with Idra's muta control...especially if they don't have blink yet.


Yeah, I agree.

And dealing with mutas is generally a pain for protoss, no matter how good you are.
gruntrush
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada134 Posts
October 18 2011 18:06 GMT
#20164
I can't find vods.. can someone link?
Don't worry, That's halo
Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
October 18 2011 18:15 GMT
#20165
On October 18 2011 23:52 -_- wrote:
I do think Idra should switch to Ling Muta PvZ. When playing Roach style, you build 70 drones, then turtle until you hit 200/200 roaches and attack the Protoss' third. With Ling Muta, you're constantly multitasking, which really fits Idra's style.

its not the same in pvz, you cannot keep ling muta viable for such a long perioud of time as you can in zvt, once they get blink and storm all the food in muta's simply go to waste, as well as lings. Generally you can only go muta for a short perioud of time and then you need to switch out of it into roach baneling bombs or some sort of better tech that can actually fight units.
henrikyo
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway755 Posts
October 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#20166
heh

watching the vod idra vs bomber, since i missed it, and I'm getting tired of day9 calling adrenal glands a "free" upgrade.

A free upgrade is something when the cost is 0. Not 200 min 200 gas.

Also idra was starved for gas. can't believe day9 didn't notice that.

small point, but it gets tiresome here it for the 9th time its a "free" upgrade
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
October 19 2011 13:08 GMT
#20167
On October 19 2011 01:49 Perseverance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:52 -_- wrote:
I do think Idra should switch to Ling Muta PvZ. When playing Roach style, you build 70 drones, then turtle until you hit 200/200 roaches and attack the Protoss' third. With Ling Muta, you're constantly multitasking, which really fits Idra's style.


Not only that but I feel like toss will have a little bit harder time with Idra's muta control...especially if they don't have blink yet.


Idra has stated in the past why he does not do this style: it just strait up dies to a number of 2 base gateway timings.
kusu
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden440 Posts
October 19 2011 13:21 GMT
#20168
On October 19 2011 21:41 henrikyo wrote:
heh

watching the vod idra vs bomber, since i missed it, and I'm getting tired of day9 calling adrenal glands a "free" upgrade.

A free upgrade is something when the cost is 0. Not 200 min 200 gas.

Also idra was starved for gas. can't believe day9 didn't notice that.

small point, but it gets tiresome here it for the 9th time its a "free" upgrade


He said it was "free damage", not a free uppgrade..
Expa bör man annars dör man! A game withouth me, is a game not worth winning!
henrikyo
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway755 Posts
October 19 2011 14:25 GMT
#20169
On October 19 2011 22:21 kusu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 21:41 henrikyo wrote:
heh

watching the vod idra vs bomber, since i missed it, and I'm getting tired of day9 calling adrenal glands a "free" upgrade.

A free upgrade is something when the cost is 0. Not 200 min 200 gas.

Also idra was starved for gas. can't believe day9 didn't notice that.

small point, but it gets tiresome here it for the 9th time its a "free" upgrade


He said it was "free damage", not a free uppgrade..

Whats the difference, is it free damage when it cost something. No.
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
October 19 2011 15:23 GMT
#20170
On October 19 2011 23:25 henrikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 22:21 kusu wrote:
On October 19 2011 21:41 henrikyo wrote:
heh

watching the vod idra vs bomber, since i missed it, and I'm getting tired of day9 calling adrenal glands a "free" upgrade.

A free upgrade is something when the cost is 0. Not 200 min 200 gas.

Also idra was starved for gas. can't believe day9 didn't notice that.

small point, but it gets tiresome here it for the 9th time its a "free" upgrade


He said it was "free damage", not a free uppgrade..

Whats the difference, is it free damage when it cost something. No.


Maybe he meant cost effective when he said free damage. At a certain point an upgrade pays for itself when you have a 200/200 supply.

Having even 50 units that use the upgrade means it's worth it, it's essentially free in the equation once you consider opportunity cost.

For instance, would you buy a stock which you knew would generate 50 dollars per share per month if it cost 40 dollars per share? Yes! It would essentially be a free stock.
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
October 19 2011 15:43 GMT
#20171
I think Day9 and Husky were totally right about that. Yes, the adrenal upgrades are gas expensive but in that game they would totally have paid off for themselves with the 9000+ zerglings that were created. I was really surprised he didn't go past +1 flyer upgrades considering he was using his mutas for so long. (Maybe he got them near the end bit I'm pretty sure he didn't have them for most of the game.)

It was truly an amazing game though and if it wasn't for Idra eliminating Bomber we might have had yet another Korean terran winning the final, so many thanks to him.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
October 20 2011 21:10 GMT
#20172
On October 20 2011 00:23 bobwhiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 23:25 henrikyo wrote:
On October 19 2011 22:21 kusu wrote:
On October 19 2011 21:41 henrikyo wrote:
heh

watching the vod idra vs bomber, since i missed it, and I'm getting tired of day9 calling adrenal glands a "free" upgrade.

A free upgrade is something when the cost is 0. Not 200 min 200 gas.

Also idra was starved for gas. can't believe day9 didn't notice that.

small point, but it gets tiresome here it for the 9th time its a "free" upgrade


He said it was "free damage", not a free uppgrade..

Whats the difference, is it free damage when it cost something. No.


Maybe he meant cost effective when he said free damage. At a certain point an upgrade pays for itself when you have a 200/200 supply.

Having even 50 units that use the upgrade means it's worth it, it's essentially free in the equation once you consider opportunity cost.

For instance, would you buy a stock which you knew would generate 50 dollars per share per month if it cost 40 dollars per share? Yes! It would essentially be a free stock.


No it would not be free, since you would still need to have the capital available to invest in it and have excess resources so you could tie them up until the point where the investment is returned. Not free.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
drivec
Profile Joined May 2009
United States354 Posts
October 21 2011 09:20 GMT
#20173
whats up with this leanin tool bar on mlg tv anyone know how to disable it. hate knowing how long the games are while watching super spoily
starcraft is chess at warp speed
exltus
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic100 Posts
October 30 2011 22:20 GMT
#20174
where are replays??? they promissed to release it 2 weakes after cup and still nothink ((
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