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On October 17 2011 07:29 diverzee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:26 Scrandom wrote:On October 17 2011 07:25 diverzee wrote:
I may be a bit of an Idra fanboy but seriously regardless what some people might've said I think the amount of hardcore games he had to play in a row had to have had some effect on his play. I'm far from a pro but I feel my ability dwindles after only 3 games ;P They should've allowed the poor guy a bit of a break in my opinion. Perhaps run the stc vs huk game in between one of the series. Diverzee you do realize MC had to play the exact same amount as Idra did right? Well, that could contribute to my point as well. I think a lot of us felt the Idra vs MC games were not as good as the Idra Bomber games. If the guys would've been allowed some rest before their game (and huk vs stc during it) I think their epic rematch would've been more epic.
i have to agree with you on this one. They are both very tired and i dont understand why Huk vs STC was not before the idra mc game. IT would of given every single player a chance to rest before a game. Huk or the stc get to rest one game before they face the winner of idra vs MC and those 2 get to take a quick break but sadly thats not how it went down
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Nooooooooo want Husky and Day9. These two just can't bring the hype.
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On October 17 2011 07:27 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:25 Azarkon wrote:On October 17 2011 07:23 VirgilSC2 wrote:On October 17 2011 07:22 teamsolid wrote:
There's just no way Idra could've done anything against all those blink stalkers when MC was on 4-base, and Idra was still staying on tier 2 tech. IdrA had Hive already with Adrenal Glands on the way, his Greater Spire was finishing up and his +3 was almost done. Yea he teched fine. Losing that hatch early on really hurt him. It was a 2-base all-in that MC transitioned into a macro game. Not scouting the 2-base all-in was the reason IdrA lost. Not necessarily what came after. We he teched but to the wrong tech. In face of that sea of bstalkers, pure well upgraded lings and infestors are way better, cheaper, easy to reproduce than broodlords imo. Well, unless he manage to morph like 10 blords at once so he get an insta-critical mass. But that's hard to do without dying.
Its like teching to collossus against a Terran off 2 base instead of going zealot archon. Easier to hold with zeal archon and easier to make it with less of a you will lose terribly timing. Transition out of it into collossus.
Or like doing a huge rax push as terran without teching to medivacs. You can do lots of damage but you lose to a lot of stuff if they attack without you having medivacs to heal or starports to make vikings against collossus.
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On October 17 2011 07:27 Seiferz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:26 Scrandom wrote:On October 17 2011 07:25 diverzee wrote:
I may be a bit of an Idra fanboy but seriously regardless what some people might've said I think the amount of hardcore games he had to play in a row had to have had some effect on his play. I'm far from a pro but I feel my ability dwindles after only 3 games ;P They should've allowed the poor guy a bit of a break in my opinion. Perhaps run the stc vs huk game in between one of the series. Diverzee you do realize MC had to play the exact same amount as Idra did right? you do realize that idras games were all 30+ minute macro games that went down to the wire?
So you are trying to tell me that all 5 games against boxer were 30 min macro games? And the 2nd game against hongun where Idra nydus'd was a 30 min macro game? And they didn't even stream all the 10 games MC had to play so don't even act like Idra had to play more
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On October 17 2011 07:30 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:29 zYwi3c wrote:On October 17 2011 07:25 Cyro wrote:On October 17 2011 07:25 McMonty wrote:On October 17 2011 07:24 NuclearJudas wrote:
SOTG AFTER FINALS WITH HUK AND IDRA AS GUESTS, PLEASE MLG! THIS! THIS THIS THIS MUST HAPPEN!!!!!
OMG THIS!
User was warned for this post
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On October 17 2011 07:31 Engore wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:26 Scrandom wrote:On October 17 2011 07:25 diverzee wrote:
I may be a bit of an Idra fanboy but seriously regardless what some people might've said I think the amount of hardcore games he had to play in a row had to have had some effect on his play. I'm far from a pro but I feel my ability dwindles after only 3 games ;P They should've allowed the poor guy a bit of a break in my opinion. Perhaps run the stc vs huk game in between one of the series. Diverzee you do realize MC had to play the exact same amount as Idra did right? MC did get a longer break. His side was a bo3 ahead of IdrA's since the bo7 took place. Still not that big of a reason to have. To the guy who said IdrA doesn't deserve code S your horribly wrong. He beat one of the best terrans in the world. If you can go toe to toe with bomber and say you won.. means you probably are code s material.
Just the same for MC who has now beaten Puma, MKP, and IdrA. Many people are just calling MC trash though, oh the fanboys.
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God can you guys just shut up. Both Idra and MC had great runs. Maybe Idra was tired, maybe they were both tired. MC played better than Idra, plain and simple. Get over it. Idra still is walking away as the highest placing zerg along with a code A spot if he wants it. Thats pretty dam good.
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MC very lucky. Idra had to take out Bomber for him then to play Idra's ZvP (not considered stellar). MC then gets a chance to watch a TvP (Huk vs STC). He'll be able to prep from this for his own TvP or PvP.
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Idra has even said himself that playing games back to back has no effect on him. He stated he plays for 8-10 hours a day anyways. Stop making stupid excuses just because you're a hardcore idra fan.
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On October 17 2011 07:27 Lunchador wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:24 Pipeline wrote:On October 17 2011 07:22 soupchicken wrote:
Idra what the hell. That was some ridiculously bad ZvP Dear internet hater. Have you tried playing a bo7 followed by a bo3 and then another bo3 and then another Bo3 against top koreans without any real break? Give the guy a break, he fucking crushed the earlier opponents and it was obvious that fatigue was a big factor Hmm... sorry, but making excuses for him isn't gonna work for me. MC did play more sets than Idra today, if you bother to do your homework.
Idra himself also said at IPL3 that fans overblow the whole fatigue factor.
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On October 17 2011 07:31 Engore wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:26 Scrandom wrote:On October 17 2011 07:25 diverzee wrote:
I may be a bit of an Idra fanboy but seriously regardless what some people might've said I think the amount of hardcore games he had to play in a row had to have had some effect on his play. I'm far from a pro but I feel my ability dwindles after only 3 games ;P They should've allowed the poor guy a bit of a break in my opinion. Perhaps run the stc vs huk game in between one of the series. Diverzee you do realize MC had to play the exact same amount as Idra did right? MC did get a longer break. His side was a bo3 ahead of IdrA's since the bo7 took place. Still not that big of a reason to have. To the guy who said IdrA doesn't deserve code S your horribly wrong. He beat one of the best terrans in the world. If you can go toe to toe with bomber and say you won.. means you probably are code s material.
Yeah, but losing to MC just means that MC is more code S material.
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On October 17 2011 07:32 Dexington wrote:
Nooooooooo want Husky and Day9. These two just can't bring the hype.
fake hype is no hype
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On October 17 2011 07:25 Tyree wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:23 LOcDowN wrote:
MC lucky to be in final, Idra completely deserved final stage. It's too bad. Nothing lucky about that, outplayed Idra again and seems to just stomp him whenever they meet on the big stage. Idra still did really well and overachieved considering the competition a 4th place is excellent for him.
Idra had been playing for a couple of hours straight before he lost that final game against MC. No matter who you are, you're not going to play as well as someone who's well rested or had an hour to take a break.
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On October 17 2011 07:30 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:29 Lobotomist wrote:
I don't know why Protoss players try so many two base all-ins. Look at games 1 and 2 of Idra vs MC. Game 1 MC takes a third, defends it by sitting his units in the middle of the three bases, macros up a bunch of collosus, pushes out and wins. Game two, MC tries to do chargelot archon on two base vs a Idra who always goes roach. MC doesn't ever take a third base, Idra gets 4+ bases and wins. Game 3 MC gets a huge advantage off a two base push, but only because he essentially tricked idra with the push. If idra sees that coming (which I suppose he probably should have) There's a good chance that Idra holds it while taking an advantage. It's all about the maps. It's pretty much impossible to take a safe third as protoss in Dual Sight.
seriously how can you complain about MC's gameply on METALOPOLIS and DUAL SIGHT, two maps a protoss basically never wins on
ever
of course he has to do stupid bullshit to stand a chance
the beauty is in the maps
(give us match point, oh yeah)
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IdrA loses: everyone complains of fatigue.
Just give MC some credit for god sakes. IdrA was playing well, and so was MC. I don't think fatigue was really playing as big of a factor in it as you are all saying. Fatigue is obviously a factor in IdrA's game but he lost game 3 because he went for a risky unit composition and the risk didn't pay off.
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MLG has been listening to the fans feedback a lot. I wonder if they'll let Day9+Tasteless cast the finals.<3
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On October 17 2011 07:30 Canucklehead wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:28 usethis2 wrote:On October 17 2011 07:26 Canucklehead wrote:
Protoss bonjwa looks to be back so far! MC has played amazing so far at this mlg and totally outclassed Idra that series. Outclassed Idra, sure. Looks to be back? Rofl. I'd say Sase looks way better. Huk is on a different level than MC as well. (Though with PvP anything is possible) Lol sase? Just no. Maybe when he can win a freaking series in code a especially against fruit dealer, then I'll say sase is good. Until then, he doesn't hold a candle to MC.
he's gotten a lot better. he beat bomber 2-0 which i'm confident MC couldn't even do. besides, MC dropped out of code A just like sase.
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On October 17 2011 07:30 IR0NMAN wrote:
MC showing off like he's a boss when he just beat a zerg player who's been playing 13 games straight. I hope MC chokes on his Kimchi tonight...
You are right. MC was getting a massage and a lobster buffet while Idra was playing. I hope you choke on your Idra love toy tonight.
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Tasteless' voice finally isn't totally shot day 3 now that they have so many casters
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On October 17 2011 07:29 diverzee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 07:26 Scrandom wrote:On October 17 2011 07:25 diverzee wrote:
I may be a bit of an Idra fanboy but seriously regardless what some people might've said I think the amount of hardcore games he had to play in a row had to have had some effect on his play. I'm far from a pro but I feel my ability dwindles after only 3 games ;P They should've allowed the poor guy a bit of a break in my opinion. Perhaps run the stc vs huk game in between one of the series. Diverzee you do realize MC had to play the exact same amount as Idra did right? Well, that could contribute to my point as well. I think a lot of us felt the Idra vs MC games were not as good as the Idra Bomber games. If the guys would've been allowed some rest before their game (and huk vs stc during it) I think their epic rematch would've been more epic.
That's simply because idra's zvp isn't as good as his zvt. Players have good and bad matchups not much more reasoning needed.
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