Guys stop saying idra played bad cause of so many series in a row. He played 13 games Thats not that many. Just last week he said people ovverated how taxing long runs like that are because he will sit and play way more in practice. His ZvP has been so so for awhile, I'm not surprised he lost to MC
On October 17 2011 07:29 Lobotomist wrote: I don't know why Protoss players try so many two base all-ins. Look at games 1 and 2 of Idra vs MC. Game 1 MC takes a third, defends it by sitting his units in the middle of the three bases, macros up a bunch of collosus, pushes out and wins. Game two, MC tries to do chargelot archon on two base vs a Idra who always goes roach. MC doesn't ever take a third base, Idra gets 4+ bases and wins. Game 3 MC gets a huge advantage off a two base push, but only because he essentially tricked idra with the push. If idra sees that coming (which I suppose he probably should have) There's a good chance that Idra holds it while taking an advantage.
It's all about the maps. It's pretty much impossible to take a safe third as protoss in Dual Sight.
seriously how can you complain about MC's gameply on METALOPOLIS and DUAL SIGHT, two maps a protoss basically never wins on
ever
of course he has to do stupid bullshit to stand a chance
the beauty is in the maps
(give us match point, oh yeah)
what i wouldnt give to never see dual sight in a tournament ever again as a protoss player lol. In the CSL we never play toss on that map its just stupid.
Watching the stream while looping The Cathedral theme from Heretic (idk how many of you guys know about that game but it was extremely awesome :/ ) is extremely epic for some reason O_o.
On October 17 2011 07:23 Dualx wrote: why are protoss allowed to all-in and if it fails just expo out of it?
What are you talking about? He took down Idra's third and only cut probes for a short time. He lost next to nothing and expoed pretty quickly after. Not every attack is all-in.
Lol seriously. It was a timing attack when IdrA had like 10 lings on the map, sorry that MC didn't let him go up to 80 drones no problem because the map isn't Dual Sight.
The difference I notice between a lot of korean pro timing attacks and foreigner pro timing attacks is that the Koreans often cut workers. People think it's "allin" but it's really just having as many minerals as possible by cutting workers for a few minutes. Especially versus zerg it doesn't matter because zerg has to invest into units instead of drones, so you're cutting workers for about an equal amount of time during the attack.
A timing attack that cuts probes is fairly all-in. You probably won't lose out right, if it doesn't work, but you will be way behind in economy and eventually tech.
On October 17 2011 07:30 IR0NMAN wrote: MC showing off like he's a boss when he just beat a zerg player who's been playing 13 games straight. I hope MC chokes on his Kimchi tonight...
13 games lol, 5 with boxer 2 with Hong Un + 3 with bomber = 10 games.
MC played 2 games beating Rain, 2 games beating Ret, 3games beating Puma, 3 games beating Marine King =10 games. It just that his game is not on stage, and his opponent is much tougher than Idra except for Bomber.