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On October 16 2011 07:26 Lunares wrote:
That wasn't even a 1-1-1 victory. That was Sase losing to a cloaked banshee. That's it. Puma could have done anything he wanted after the banshee and still won, that was just bad.
He lost to the cloaked banshee because he was blind countering the 1-1-1 that does not have cloak. The build that has the best chance against it loses to 1-1-1 with cloak.
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Boxer isn't _that_ behind
He can still come back
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puma writing autographs like a boss
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On October 16 2011 07:27 SkelA wrote:
How do you stop this 1/1/1 thing? I dont play SC2 but isnt the most obvious choice to go really fast collosus which owns marines or im talking shit ?
if you go fast colossus you wont have any money to have an army that supports the colo.. and the banshees can just target fire it down anyway..
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On October 16 2011 07:27 SkelA wrote:
How do you stop this 1/1/1 thing? I dont play SC2 but isnt the most obvious choice to go really fast collosus which owns marines or im talking shit ?
There are a number of ways to hold it, but no easy one. I have seen one base colo hold it, I have also seen a 1 gate expand hold it(one gate expand gives you enough economy in time to overwhelm it, but it takes a lot of micro, see Huk vs Thorzian for a hold on xel naga with a fast expand pre immortal buff).
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On October 16 2011 07:27 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 07:26 Lunares wrote:
That wasn't even a 1-1-1 victory. That was Sase losing to a cloaked banshee. That's it. Puma could have done anything he wanted after the banshee and still one, that was just bad. SaSe went for that build because he knew he was going against a 1-1-1, so even though Puma won with a cloaked banshee, it was in fact a 1-1-1 that killed SaSe.
He would have done just fine if he had built an observer instead of 2 stalkers + warped in at home after. he should have realized something was up given how weak the bunker defenses were (only 4 marines +1 tank?). That gas had to be going somewhere.
That build would have done just fine if Sase had better game sense + reactions. (in that game)
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On October 16 2011 07:28 ThyHate wrote:Show nested quote +Steven_Bonnell Steven Bonnell II
Will be making a big streaming related announcement when I get back on reddit. Some will be disappointed, but most peopl will be excited!
switching to LoL ? ^^
Switching to protoss?
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On October 16 2011 07:28 NuclearJudas wrote:
Missed the games. Did Puma really 1-1-1 two games in a row?
Yes. One with cloak.
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On October 16 2011 07:26 Lunares wrote:
That wasn't even a 1-1-1 victory. That was Sase losing to a cloaked banshee. That's it. Puma could have done anything he wanted after the banshee and still won, that was just bad.
You don´t get it. It was a mind game relying on that Sase would react to it as if it was a normal 1 1 1 without cloak. The fear of the standard 1 1 1 is so big that you need every extra unit you can get.
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On October 16 2011 07:28 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 07:27 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 07:26 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 07:25 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 07:24 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 07:23 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 07:22 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on Xel'naga Caverns In the north position is  Marineking While in the south is Boxer
1:40Gas first for both players followed up with a barracks 3:30Factory on the way for both players Marineking's is proxied 4:30Both players basically doing the same builds starting hellions + starport at the exact same time 5:20Banshees for both players Hellions are in the base of boxer and a lot of scvs go down Banshees now arrive at boxer's base and he has no anti air 7:30Viking for marine king chases boxer's banshee away while marine king kills any remaining marines of boxer
8:50Marine king is expanding but loses a few units to boxer's forces
10:10
Siege tech on the way for boxer
marine king is securing his natural just as boxer attacks
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On October 16 2011 07:28 NuclearJudas wrote:
Missed the games. Did Puma really 1-1-1 two games in a row?
is that anything new?
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On October 16 2011 07:26 gh0un wrote:
If you want to nerf 1-1-1/2-1-1/3-1-1 then there is only one way. Nerf marines or mules.
Marines are what makes this build broken against protoss.
They dont cost anything, therefore terran can tech to all kinds of stuff (siege tanks and cloaked banshees) while getting a lot of marines as the backbone of the army.
I really would like to see how marines do if they only had 5 damage instead of 6, or a slower rate of fire.
I dont think they would be underpowered at all.
And that's why you are just an anonymous forum poster and not on Blizzards balance team 
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On October 16 2011 07:28 NuclearJudas wrote:
Missed the games. Did Puma really 1-1-1 two games in a row?
Yep, good ol Puma
My hate for him could fuel the first space shuttle to pluto.
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...........oh boxer.......T.T taht's just tough
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On October 16 2011 07:27 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 07:26 gh0un wrote:
If you want to nerf 1-1-1/2-1-1/3-1-1 then there is only one way. Nerf marines or mules.
Marines are what makes this build broken against protoss.
They dont cost anything, therefore terran can tech to all kinds of stuff (siege tanks and cloaked banshees) while getting a lot of marines as the backbone of the army.
I really would like to see how marines do if they only had 5 damage instead of 6, or a slower rate of fire.
I dont think they would be underpowered at all. TvZ would be broken.
Not really. Marines would still kill everything in tvz which they kill right now.
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On October 16 2011 07:25 TheKefka wrote:
Shout out to Painuser for the advice not to make robo's and instead going twilight because 9/10 1-1-1s happen without cloack.
Not to mention his advice to go 3 gate expo instead of 1 gate
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On October 16 2011 07:28 Badfatpanda wrote:
oh noes toss tear time t.t SaSe lost that, PuMa didn't win, get a grip guys
They were terrible games whether you play toss or not -_-
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COME ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are TONS of threads about the 1-1-1 and how to stop it.
Also it's boxer vs marineking right now.
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On October 16 2011 07:23 tnud wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 07:22 windsupernova wrote:
LOL Sase falling apart.
No wonder he is code B.
Puma going for the win as always You can't see it but I'm hitting a punching bag with your name written on it as hard as I can. 111 Ruins PvT for me. So sad..
Ok? LMAO, are you going to say that having a a Banshee on your base,not building an obs and trying to break a ramp with Bunkers and SCVs repairing while your whole economy is dying is good play?
Sase fell apart that game, I know he is a good player, but on that particular game Sase played badly. And its not Like Pumas 111 has not been stopped, mana has beaten him several times.
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