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On October 15 2011 00:27 doko100 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 00:26 BronzeKnee wrote:On October 15 2011 00:23 doko100 wrote:On October 15 2011 00:22 BronzeKnee wrote:On October 15 2011 00:18 doko100 wrote:On October 15 2011 00:16 BronzeKnee wrote:On October 15 2011 00:14 doko100 wrote:
itt, protoss players whining about balance, completely ignoring that mana lost 25 probes to banshee harrass. get em retardos Haha, you missed the game didn't you. He lost 16 probes to a Hellion/Marine drop, and Top lost all of his Marines and Hellions in order to do that damage. Of course when you have access to units that kill workers so efficiently in the early game, you can afford to lose the Hellions and Marines and get ahead. that is a retarded statement to say the least Read what he said. He said he killed 25 Probes with Banshees. He in fact killed 16 Probes with a Hellion/Marine Drop. So he didn't watch the game, and you didn't the posts fully. Where are the moderators? so whats the difference, he still lost most oh his economy, stop craying about balance. and yeah where are the moderators, ban this balance whiner Where is there balance whine? I didn't say he didn't lose most of his economy. In fact I reported that he did. But if someone said something that was balantly wrong, and I simply corrected it. you were crying about marines and hellions, get your facts right.
I don't think the following statement is balance whine. It is the same as saying that when you have access to warpgates early, a 3 or 4 gate push is powerful because it helps negate the defenders advantage. It is simply how the game works.
Of course when you have access to units that kill workers so efficiently in the early game, you can afford to lose the Hellions and Marines and get ahead.
There is a difference between objective and subjective statements, you need to learn the difference. Objective statements are ones supported by facts. Subjective statements offer an opinion.
Hellions and Marines are accessible in the early game, and kill workers very efficiently (compared to the other units in the game). That is fact.
And we know that you can afford to trade Hellions and Marines for Workers in equal cost and get ahead, that is how the game works, and is a fact.
No where did I put any opinion to make the state subjective by stating it made Terran overpowered in any way.
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On October 15 2011 00:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 00:30 hewley wrote:
Lol at all the people saying TOP cant play a macro game. He is the definition of macro terran. Sometimes the LR threads are such a joke Meh, TOP won this when Mana's attack on the third failed.
Yeah I love how no one points out the problems with losing that many collossi and stalkers and sentries (such a gas-heavy loss) without being able to take down the third base.
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On October 15 2011 00:30 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 00:30 Dexington wrote:On October 15 2011 00:28 Asha` wrote:On October 15 2011 00:27 Dexington wrote:
EMP... Upgrades? TOP very much showing that he can play a macro TvP lol Mana is also 3/3? No he wasn't, he wasn't even 2/2 I think. Or he just hit 2/2 when that engagement started.
Actually, he was 
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lol Top macro is so good.
Its like when he starts earning 3k per minute only he starts banking in minerals
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Hey, too bad mana didn't have 5 more gateways after the first battle. But good game still.
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On October 15 2011 00:31 Da.Frozzy wrote:
its so broken that terran force rips throug a maxed toss army with loosing all ghosts right before the fight.
srsly
The only solution is for tournaments to ban Terran IMO TBH IMO.
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when in doubt as terran just build marauders and if that doesn't work build more marauders and emp the fuckers
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So much QQ ITT. GG TOP, deserved that game completely, MaNa just did not play like he usually do.
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On October 15 2011 00:30 hewley wrote:
Lol at all the people saying TOP cant play a macro game. He is the definition of macro terran. Sometimes the LR threads are such a joke
true, he is known for having a TOP macro, micro not so much i guess.
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On October 15 2011 00:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 00:30 hewley wrote:
Lol at all the people saying TOP cant play a macro game. He is the definition of macro terran. Sometimes the LR threads are such a joke Meh, TOP won this when Mana's attack on the third failed.
Mana played sloppily, it seemed like the pressure was getting to him. He seemed quite nervous.
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The koreans are having a lot more trouble than they usually do... but still ggwp Top 
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On October 15 2011 00:33 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 00:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 15 2011 00:30 hewley wrote:
Lol at all the people saying TOP cant play a macro game. He is the definition of macro terran. Sometimes the LR threads are such a joke Meh, TOP won this when Mana's attack on the third failed. Yeah I love how no one points out the problems with losing that many collossi and stalkers and sentries (such a gas-heavy loss) without being able to take down the third base.
Yep, that gave TOP a huge advantage, Mana slipping with his macro and making small mistakes everywhere didn't help tho.
Overall TOP played that game much better than Mana
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Game one was fucking terrible play from TOP. I don't understand how people can think TOP's TvP is THAT bad...
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Is stream completely dead ? I can't watch it anymore ! I hate Twitch tv -.-"
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I think Mana was still shaken from the 1-1-1 game. His play was off, and the early gate pressure needed to do more damage.
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If only Mana had everything in an arc, perfectly spread out so those 20 EMP's TOP launched would have had to be launched in a concave to hit everything. He would have lost all his shields and energy about 1 second later.
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On October 15 2011 00:33 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 00:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 15 2011 00:30 hewley wrote:
Lol at all the people saying TOP cant play a macro game. He is the definition of macro terran. Sometimes the LR threads are such a joke Meh, TOP won this when Mana's attack on the third failed. Yeah I love how no one points out the problems with losing that many collossi and stalkers and sentries (such a gas-heavy loss) without being able to take down the third base.
B-b-but that way i won't be able to justify my favourite player losing!
Yeah, Mana played pretty sloppily this game. Of course he is still a pretty skilled player, but on this game Top played better
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On October 15 2011 00:33 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 00:31 VirgilSC2 wrote:On October 15 2011 00:30 FairForever wrote:On October 15 2011 00:30 Dexington wrote:On October 15 2011 00:28 Asha` wrote:On October 15 2011 00:27 Dexington wrote:
EMP... Upgrades? TOP very much showing that he can play a macro TvP lol Mana is also 3/3? No he wasn't, he wasn't even 2/2 I think. Or he just hit 2/2 when that engagement started. MaNa was also 3/3 in that engagement, as well as the recent one. This is a fucking joke to watch, TOP's army gets blanketed by storms and just takes one step back and demolishes the Protoss army without any other micro. 3/3 Terran>3/3 Toss, Toss doesn't scale as well with armor upgrades due to shields.
But what if you use that chrono on shield ups and get some archons in the mix even.
Of course you'd have to spread pretty well so you won't get everything EMP'd.
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On October 15 2011 00:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 00:30 hewley wrote:
Lol at all the people saying TOP cant play a macro game. He is the definition of macro terran. Sometimes the LR threads are such a joke Meh, TOP won this when Mana's attack on the third failed.
Yeah, so if Mana is better in a macro game, why do a two base timing with colossus. Tell me pls. He could just sat back, take a third and transition into hts like in game 1 which he won very convincingly. Its just so upsetting reading through some brainless comments in the LR threads.
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EPT
