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Da.Frozzy
Profile Joined June 2011
76 Posts
October 14 2011 15:31 GMT
#521
its so broken that terran force rips throug a maxed toss army with loosing all ghosts right before the fight.

srsly

User was temp banned for this post.
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 15:33:02
October 14 2011 15:31 GMT
#522
On October 15 2011 00:26 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 00:25 laharl23 wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:18 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:16 laharl23 wrote:
The 1-1-1 is not patched, immortals are NOT the answer. Too many people read into patch notes (especially incontrol saying how the 4gate is now completely dead after this ramp change, uh no since when were completely blocking your ramp with sentrys ever the answer to defending 4gate)

and just like immortals aren't the answer to defending the 1-1-1. They can be but colluses are probably better.


4Gate is actually pretty dead.....so.....uh......I'm not sure what your point is there.


What? its barely anymore dead than it was in the last patch.


You can be even greedier now when defending 4gate; last patch it was 3gate with no tech, now you might even squeeze a tech building in. Not having the option to warp above a forcefield up a ramp is huge.


Not true at all, if you play greedy vs 4gate you still die just like the last patch.

anyway i dont want to go off topic anymore, but watch some games from mlg this weekend in that big pvp group and you will see at least 3-4 4gate wins.
kwaky
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)94 Posts
October 14 2011 15:31 GMT
#523
On October 15 2011 00:30 Taug wrote:
TOP cant play a macro game LMAO, he is the BEST at macro ...

That's exactly what I was thinking when people were saying a few pages back how TOP is a terrible player and couldn't beat MaNa in a macro game..
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
October 14 2011 15:31 GMT
#524
On October 15 2011 00:30 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 00:30 Dexington wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:28 Asha` wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:27 Dexington wrote:
EMP...


Upgrades?

TOP very much showing that he can play a macro TvP lol


Mana is also 3/3?


No he wasn't, he wasn't even 2/2 I think. Or he just hit 2/2 when that engagement started.

MaNa was also 3/3 in that engagement, as well as the recent one.

This is a fucking joke to watch, TOP's army gets blanketed by storms and just takes one step back and demolishes the Protoss army without any other micro.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
October 14 2011 15:32 GMT
#525
On October 15 2011 00:31 Da.Frozzy wrote:
its so broken that terran force rips throug a maxed toss army with loosing all ghosts right before the fight.

srsly


Well, the ghosts did what they needed to do (emp the crap out of everything), they had no energy left anyway so it's not like they're super important... sort of like losing sentries with no mana, it's bad in the long run but in a single engagement it typically should have little to no effect.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
October 14 2011 15:32 GMT
#526
Not really sure I understood what happened in that engagement. I guess TOP won entirely because of upgrades and superior supply.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
October 14 2011 15:32 GMT
#527
On October 15 2011 00:31 Da.Frozzy wrote:
its so broken that terran force rips throug a maxed toss army with loosing all ghosts right before the fight.

srsly


200 food terran vs 150 food toss =.=

but mana's macro is pretty crappy for most part =/ even with his insane mining, top's keeping his gas/min consistently below 500 when he's not maxed.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 14 2011 15:32 GMT
#528
On October 15 2011 00:30 hewley wrote:
Lol at all the people saying TOP cant play a macro game. He is the definition of macro terran. Sometimes the LR threads are such a joke


Meh, TOP won this when Mana's attack on the third failed.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
October 14 2011 15:32 GMT
#529
On October 15 2011 00:31 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 00:30 FairForever wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:30 Dexington wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:28 Asha` wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:27 Dexington wrote:
EMP...


Upgrades?

TOP very much showing that he can play a macro TvP lol


Mana is also 3/3?


No he wasn't, he wasn't even 2/2 I think. Or he just hit 2/2 when that engagement started.

MaNa was also 3/3 in that engagement, as well as the recent one.

This is a fucking joke to watch, TOP's army gets blanketed by storms and just takes one step back and demolishes the Protoss army without any other micro.


I'm sure he wasn't 3/3, because I saw at least one upgrade still going when they had the engagement. I'll check the replay later though.

But seriously we need to quit the imbalance cries in a LR thread, regardless of what you think.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#530
On October 15 2011 00:31 Da.Frozzy wrote:
its so broken that terran force rips throug a maxed toss army with loosing all ghosts right before the fight.

srsly


The Ghosts did their Job and EMPd everything but 1 Templar. Lay off the QQ.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Brainiac
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland641 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#531
TOP can't win a macro game? Yeah, for sure, lol
Si vis pacem para bellum
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#532
On October 15 2011 00:31 laharl23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 00:26 Teoita wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:25 laharl23 wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:18 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:16 laharl23 wrote:
The 1-1-1 is not patched, immortals are NOT the answer. Too many people read into patch notes (especially incontrol saying how the 4gate is now completely dead after this ramp change, uh no since when were completely blocking your ramp with sentrys ever the answer to defending 4gate)

and just like immortals aren't the answer to defending the 1-1-1. They can be but colluses are probably better.


4Gate is actually pretty dead.....so.....uh......I'm not sure what your point is there.


What? its barely anymore dead than it was in the last patch.


You can be even greedier now when defending 4gate; last patch it was 3gate with no tech, now you might even squeeze a tech building in. Not having the option to warp above a forcefield up a ramp is huge.


Not true at all, if you play greedy vs 4gate you still die just like the last patch.


Honestly i have no idea how much greedier you can be, but you can't deny that it's actually possible to be slightly greedier, wether it's a bit more tech or probes. The strength of the 4gate was warping up the ramp and now that's gone, so it -should- be easier to hold...but then again i haven't faced a 4gate since the new patch so i don't really know.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#533
...emp
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#534
TOP played a solid game there. GG.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#535
On October 15 2011 00:31 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 00:30 FairForever wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:30 Dexington wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:28 Asha` wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:27 Dexington wrote:
EMP...


Upgrades?

TOP very much showing that he can play a macro TvP lol


Mana is also 3/3?


No he wasn't, he wasn't even 2/2 I think. Or he just hit 2/2 when that engagement started.

MaNa was also 3/3 in that engagement, as well as the recent one.

This is a fucking joke to watch, TOP's army gets blanketed by storms and just takes one step back and demolishes the Protoss army without any other micro.


Easy on the balance whine yeh?

Didn't realise Mana wasn't 2-2, regardless TOP's had amazing upgrades on bio and air the whole time, and in the first game we saw the exact opposite happen in engagements when things went in Mana's favour.

Crushing performance from TOP.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#536
marauders are so amazing :D
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#537
Pokebunny vs TT1 and Elfi vs Edge both now 1-1
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#538
Poor MaNa, he can show so much better than this, but hey, not everyone is always perfect.
It appears I have been chosen.
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#539
Sloppy play in the mid-game by MaNa meant he was never in a good position late game.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 14 2011 15:33 GMT
#540
On October 15 2011 00:31 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 00:30 FairForever wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:30 Dexington wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:28 Asha` wrote:
On October 15 2011 00:27 Dexington wrote:
EMP...


Upgrades?

TOP very much showing that he can play a macro TvP lol


Mana is also 3/3?


No he wasn't, he wasn't even 2/2 I think. Or he just hit 2/2 when that engagement started.

MaNa was also 3/3 in that engagement, as well as the recent one.

This is a fucking joke to watch, TOP's army gets blanketed by storms and just takes one step back and demolishes the Protoss army without any other micro.

3/3 Terran>3/3 Toss, Toss doesn't scale as well with armor upgrades due to shields.
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