EPTIEM New York - Day 2 Coverage - Page 30
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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BjC
England181 Posts
Will happen ^^ ...It is known...  User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:36 hewley wrote: Yeah, so if Mana is better in a macro game, why do a two base timing with colossus. Tell me pls. He could just sat back, take a third and transition into hts like in game 1 which he won very convincingly. Its just so upsetting reading through some brainless comments in the LR threads. Mana showed his Colossi quite early (which was a mistake, along with losing his Stalkers) so maybe he thought he had to so something with them before TOP can negate them with Vikings? | ||
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nufcrulz
Singapore934 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
32-17 to the Zerg (wow, that's quite a difference) Fruitdealer is 1-1 vs Toss Axslav is 3-2 vs Zerg Not much to play on, so this should be interesting | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:37 laharl23 wrote: So then you are just theory-crafting like everyone else does when a patch comes out? Like I said, when were sentrys ever the answer to stopping a 4gate? they weren't back then and they still aren't now. Its not like sentrys keep them completely away forever, you will have like 1 sentry by the time they hit and that will save you about 10 seconds of time until they get vision and warp up your ramp. Unless you play really weird and go like 3 sentrys before any other units it doesn't really matter, but like i said if you play greedy in anyway you will still lose. The sentries are there to buy you time until your Tech kicks in(as in Blink Finishes, Immortal comes out, your own warpgate finishes) Of course 4 gate is still viable(anyone who says its dead clearly doesn't play that much/watches enough PvPs) but now 4 gating yourself its not the only option | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:37 BronzeKnee wrote: What? People think his play is that bad, because he played that bad in Game 1 so obviously he is capable of playing of that poorly. I think everyone has a range of skill they play at, and perhaps game one was near the bottom of TOP's range, but clearly he plays that poorly sometimes. It is the same for Mana, he clearly played better in Game 1 than Game 3. TOP is an incredible player though, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the Finals. That's my point. TOP is reknowned for his macro and mediocre unit control - something everyone who even watches a modicum of GSL would know. One game does not make a player, and even for TOP, his unit control in Game 1 was terrible. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:35 windsupernova wrote: B-b-but that way i won't be able to justify my favourite player losing! Yeah, Mana played pretty sloppily this game. Of course he is still a pretty skilled player, but on this game Top played better Mana seemed quite off from his normal quality of play, also I would like to point out that one thing that he should learn from White-ra is to just mass expand in 4+ game phase. White-ra expands too riskily in early- to mid-game, but his late game expanding style is actually quite good, and from the games of Mana that I saw, he expands too conservatively in late game. In this game it would probably not have helped him anyway, but I see it as a common problem of his, also he does not harrass terrans enough in late game. Another thing he should learn from special tactics  . | ||
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
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BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:41 Arceus wrote: dear Waxangel. would you please add a simple Result section (in spoiler ofc) in OP, or at least one single link to the tourney's liquipedia. much appreciation. thx There is a link to the liquidpedia in the OP -_- | ||
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jakoh
Canada237 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:40 QTIP. wrote: Lets' go FD. I am with you. He will return. FD FIGHTING. *once again, I am setting myself up for a disappointment T_T | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
I wonder how that played out though.."why can't i build cannons..oh crap i forgot the forge" | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:43 jakoh wrote: I am with you. He will return. FD FIGHTING. *once again, I am setting myself up for a disappointment T_T He's up against an EG member that's not IdrA or PuMa, he should be fine. | ||
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hewley
Germany1063 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:40 BuddhaMonk wrote: That's my point, the decision to pressure is the good decision, but the engagement itself was what cost him, whereas you seem to be saying he should just stay back... Ah ok so we have the same opinion. Sometimes hard to express myself on the internet. ^_^ | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:42 mcc wrote: Mana seemed quite off from his normal quality of play, also I would like to point out that one thing that he should learn from White-ra is to just mass expand in 4+ game phase. White-ra expands too riskily in early- to mid-game, but his late game expanding style is actually quite good, and from the games of Mana that I saw, he expands too conservatively in late game. In this game it would probably not have helped him anyway, but I see it as a common problem of his, also he does not harrass terrans enough in late game. Another thing he should learn from special tactics .Well but the same can be said about Top(he seemed pretty off in game 1) Players don't always play at their 100% performance. They are humans. That doesn't mean that Top is bad because he lost game 1, and it doesn't mean Mana is bad or got cheesed out when he lost game 2. | ||
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GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Australia193 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:41 Arceus wrote: dear Waxangel. would you please add a simple Result section (in spoiler ofc) in OP, or at least one single link to the tourney's liquipedia. much appreciation. thx There is a link to the Liquipedia page in the box below the list of streamed matches http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_New_York | ||
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ssg
United States1779 Posts
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TidusX.Yuna
United States239 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:44 windsupernova wrote: Well but the same can be said about Top(he seemed pretty off in game 1) Players don't always play at their 100% performance. They are humans. That doesn't mean that Top is bad because he lost game 1, and it doesn't mean Mana is bad or got cheesed out when he lost game 2. This is a TL LR thread, though. Here, a player is only good if they won their last televised game or if they're IdrA. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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