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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 11 2011 11:01 GMT
#2121
This is nail-bitingly close
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
October 11 2011 11:01 GMT
#2122
Starting off close air positions - not looking good for MVP, according to Jinro.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
October 11 2011 11:01 GMT
#2123
Wow close air this is musick to MVP's senses
Support your esport!
RockStarCrft
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey470 Posts
October 11 2011 11:01 GMT
#2124
On October 11 2011 19:59 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 19:57 Telcontar wrote:
On October 11 2011 19:54 Garnet wrote:
How was Nestea supposed to do to win that game? faster broodlords?

As Jinro said, NesTea read MVP's gameplan wrong. He was preparing for a mass thor timing push. That's why he got out a shit ton of roaches, banelings, infestors, and upgrades. It delayed his hive tech by quite a bit. That gave all the time in the world for MVP to take more bases and get a shit ton of vikings out.

I think the more important part is that he stopped droning at 49 drones - he lost like 1 drone total to the drops, and he just never made more until he realized 'oh shit, this isnt a 2 base play/im not gonna be able to bust him'. So while killing no drones, MVP was at 64 scvs vs 49.

Yeah, Nestea then droned hard until 80 or whatever, but if he had made a more standard decision and read MVP correctly (hard), then he'd have had those drones much earlier.


Jinro your analysses are so true.

I hope you were commentating these games at the GOM studio
markz4
Profile Joined March 2011
180 Posts
October 11 2011 11:02 GMT
#2125
pls don't bunker rush
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
October 11 2011 11:02 GMT
#2126
damn metalolpolis, close by air, no good
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
October 11 2011 11:02 GMT
#2127
I would really enjoy a Clide vs. Nestea finals, I think it would be a great series. Plus I am interested in how Artosis would react and who he would end up cheering for. O_o
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 11 2011 11:02 GMT
#2128
On October 11 2011 20:01 RockStarCrft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 19:59 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On October 11 2011 19:57 Telcontar wrote:
On October 11 2011 19:54 Garnet wrote:
How was Nestea supposed to do to win that game? faster broodlords?

As Jinro said, NesTea read MVP's gameplan wrong. He was preparing for a mass thor timing push. That's why he got out a shit ton of roaches, banelings, infestors, and upgrades. It delayed his hive tech by quite a bit. That gave all the time in the world for MVP to take more bases and get a shit ton of vikings out.

I think the more important part is that he stopped droning at 49 drones - he lost like 1 drone total to the drops, and he just never made more until he realized 'oh shit, this isnt a 2 base play/im not gonna be able to bust him'. So while killing no drones, MVP was at 64 scvs vs 49.

Yeah, Nestea then droned hard until 80 or whatever, but if he had made a more standard decision and read MVP correctly (hard), then he'd have had those drones much earlier.


Jinro your analysses are so true.

I hope you were commentating these games at the GOM studio


Wow, this makes so much sense, I really wish people would read this instead of saying that all the players are bad.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
October 11 2011 11:02 GMT
#2129
On October 11 2011 19:56 Gary Oak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 19:55 setzer wrote:
On October 11 2011 19:54 Highways wrote:
This is why GSL needs seeding....

There will always be dud finals because of the stupid format.


There was seeding ...

He means later seeding, like at Ro8 players are reseeded.


Since Code S we have had:

MC vs July
MVP vs MKP
MVP vs MKP2
Nestea vs Losira
Polt vs MMA

You don't need seeding to get good matchups in the finals and having a good format doesn't automatically make the quality of the games in the finals great.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
October 11 2011 11:02 GMT
#2130
fuck these bunker rushes
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 11 2011 11:02 GMT
#2131
On October 11 2011 20:00 iamthedave wrote:
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On October 11 2011 19:59 forsooth wrote:
On October 11 2011 19:52 red4ce wrote:
Ace match incoming. This next game basically determines the GSL champion.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Nestea's ZvT is looking better than ever but he's playing on basically the best set of maps Zerg could ever dream of and there are still some very scary TvZers left in the tournament.


And MMA has roflstomped him in the past. Even if was only one game, we could see that again.


MMA can also lose to Lucky 0-3.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
October 11 2011 11:03 GMT
#2132
wow i think my heart stopped for a second
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
October 11 2011 11:03 GMT
#2133
dat drone micro....
Anhyzer
Profile Joined April 2010
1 Post
October 11 2011 11:03 GMT
#2134
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space for rent
dookudooku
Profile Joined December 2010
255 Posts
October 11 2011 11:03 GMT
#2135
On October 11 2011 19:58 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 19:56 dookudooku wrote:
Tastosis called the last match completely wrong:

1. Losing an overlord in the first five minutes is terrible. Not only does it supply block the Zerg, it slows down the second queen timing by a lot. Losing any sort of supply building/unit this early instantly turns a 5:5 matchup into a 7:3 matchup.

2. MVP killed so many zerglings early on with his hellions that Nestea was never able to build enough drones. MVP started his 3rd base well before Nestea did.


Yeah that really changed the outcome of the maxed battle where either side could pick what units they wanted.

+ Show Spoiler +
Everyone thinks they're right...


A large part of Starcraft is probability and making the correct decisions. Losing an overlord early is a huge disadvantage and forces the Zerg into risks that have low probability of success if they want to catch up.

Of all the high-level TvZ games I've seen, Terran has won at least 90% of the games where an overlord gets picked off in the beginning.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
October 11 2011 11:03 GMT
#2136
Let's go MVP! I do feel bad for any pro gamer with wrist issues, whether minor or as dehabilitating as Flash's. I think MVP should take some time off if he does win his 4th GSL and try to heal up if possible - that is if he can get past NesTea here first.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Nefariously
Profile Joined December 2010
277 Posts
October 11 2011 11:03 GMT
#2137
PIMPEST FUCKING PLAY 2011
now ask me if i care
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12712 Posts
October 11 2011 11:03 GMT
#2138
omg, that micro
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
October 11 2011 11:03 GMT
#2139
LOL damn Nestea is sick
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
October 11 2011 11:03 GMT
#2140
Well that was a dud besides costing NesTea some mining time.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
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