EPT[GSL] Oct Code S RO8 Day 1 - Page 105
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Scila
Canada1849 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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nofacej
Australia164 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:53 doko100 wrote: Nesta y u no make infestors with broodlords? Seriously ever diamond zerg goes for broodlord infestor corrupter lategame TvZ what made nestea think that he wouldnt need any infestors to kill the vikings? I don't think Nestea expected the engagement between the gold and Mvp's 3rd to go that badly. He used all of his infestor energy on Infested Terrans and the Tanks and Hellions just melted them. From there he switched into Broodlords, but without the Infestor support it wasn't enough, and there wasn't any time to remake them because Mvp had been killing bases with a squad of Tanks, Hellions and Thors on the right side of the map. Mvp simply out multi-tasked him and once he was down on bases, he was always only 1 bad engagement away from gg. | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:56 dookudooku wrote: Tastosis called the last match completely wrong: 1. Losing an overlord in the first five minutes is terrible. Not only does it supply block the Zerg, it slows down the second queen timing by a lot. Losing any sort of supply building/unit this early instantly turns a 5:5 matchup into a 7:3 matchup. 2. MVP killed so many zerglings early on with his hellions that Nestea was never able to build enough drones. MVP started his 3rd base well before Nestea did. Yeah that really changed the outcome of the maxed battle where either side could pick what units they wanted. + Show Spoiler + Everyone thinks they're right... | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:56 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Uhm, close air is way worse for terran imo -.- Thank you Jinro. Creep at your natural is sooo scary to face. In cross, you can play the take 4 bases deny zerg 4th and 5th game. In close air, you have to attack the main/nat, and creep that goes to the watchtower. | ||
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
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kineticSYN
United States909 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:32 chambertin wrote: Nestea is simply better than MVP. MVP has two options to win and he knows them. He must either: 1. Get huge drone kills or 2. Cheese. Otherwise Nestea can just Nestea... oh also, to address this mvp had no drone kills, and didn't cheese and won umad? | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:52 red4ce wrote: Ace match incoming. This next game basically determines the GSL champion. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Nestea's ZvT is looking better than ever but he's playing on basically the best set of maps Zerg could ever dream of and there are still some very scary TvZers left in the tournament. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:54 Garnet wrote: How was Nestea supposed to do to win that game? faster broodlords? He was out of options once the planetaries walled off the map. The only option he could have used would be mass econ broods to break the planetaries down and just throw zerg units at his face until he died. Once MVP started hatch sniping it was over. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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nofacej
Australia164 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:58 below66 wrote: I don't see why you would complain so much about this not being a finals, apart from the money aspect(which they are still competing for), in my mind and as a view I'm spectating this as it if IS a finals. Best of 7 instead of best of 5. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:57 Telcontar wrote: As Jinro said, NesTea read MVP's gameplan wrong. He was preparing for a mass thor timing push. That's why he got out a shit ton of roaches, banelings, infestors, and upgrades. It delayed his hive tech by quite a bit. That gave all the time in the world for MVP to take more bases and get a shit ton of vikings out. I think the more important part is that he stopped droning at 49 drones - he lost like 1 drone total to the drops, and he just never made more until he realized 'oh shit, this isnt a 2 base play/im not gonna be able to bust him'. So while killing no drones, MVP was at 64 scvs vs 49. Yeah, Nestea then droned hard until 80 or whatever, but if he had made a more standard decision and read MVP correctly (hard), then he'd have had those drones much earlier. | ||
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mGMUSE
Singapore112 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:54 Garnet wrote: How was Nestea supposed to do to win that game? faster broodlords? realize mvp sniped all the infestors with his banshees. pretty sure that's why he chose to go vikings instead of ghosts for broodlords. apart from 'winning the engage'.... - not running into siege tank lines, every unit is precious - nyduses -overlord drops - more tech switches(he shouldve switched into mutas as artosis thought because of the relatively low thor count, ultra/ling/infestors when siege tank count decreases) | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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brotlov
Australia128 Posts
Shouldn't it be set up so that the players who are ranked 1 and 2 are in opposite sides of the bracket? | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:59 kineticSYN wrote: oh also, to address this mvp had no drone kills, and didn't cheese and won umad? Maybe he's mad, maybe he doesn't know anything about the game. Probably a bit of both. | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: No I do not Artosis. Only A.I. could beat these two | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:59 forsooth wrote: Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Nestea's ZvT is looking better than ever but he's playing on basically the best set of maps Zerg could ever dream of and there are still some very scary TvZers left in the tournament. And MMA has roflstomped him in the past. Even if was only one game, we could see that again. | ||
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:59 zeru wrote: watch someone crush winner of mvp/nestea in ro4. i want to see artosis reaction to that :p That's what happens when you let the players choose the seeding. | ||
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