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MrSweetNess
Australia312 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:45 ONEeldthwe wrote: it was over when he decided to take a far away 3rd... such a bad idea Not so much when it was made, but when it was scouted, those transferring drones aren't seen and curious stays in the dark and the game is much different | ||
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Warrice
United States565 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:46 zocktol wrote: So Oz got reactive Pheonix against Mutas? Why not go for Blink and Templar, it just seems so much better to me T_T Am i wrong here? i dont think so.. zerg here, whenever protoss gets storm muta ling has to stop or the zerg will lose. atleast in my experience. | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:46 Teoita wrote: Yeah, but i feel like defending a third vs that is insanely hard, and blink+storm on 2 bases just isn't going to happen. hence why i included "theoretically" it's fragile as fucking hell, but i haven't played it enough to give a definitive consensus on it | ||
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Clefairy
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GGPope
Australia367 Posts
I reckon Oz can win the next two games though, considering they are on more favourable maps. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:46 Teoita wrote: Yeah, but i feel like defending a third vs that is insanely hard, and blink+storm on 2 bases just isn't going to happen. I would quite like to see more upgrades in that sense. We've seen how devestating a double forge is for Creator, it could make a lot of difference in that muta-ling comp, especially considering how quickly lings attack, and the glaives of mutas. | ||
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SC2ShoWTimE
Germany722 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:46 Dragar wrote: Generally you scout it and 6 gate. That's why the style fell out of fashon. It was never a style that was really 'beaten', though teching to blink stallkers and storm archons can work if you can defend well enough. It requires a lot more cannons than most Protoss are willing to make, and is pretty even. The six gate that hits before mutas is usually a sure win. the point is that you dont go ling => muta. you can produce roach/ling like always and transition into mutas so... 6 gate is not working. | ||
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BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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razy
Russian Federation899 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:47 Clefairy wrote: What's up with all these base trades these days no good space control abilities in sc2 + too open maps + no flashed out timing attacks => tons of base trades | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:46 zocktol wrote: So Oz got reactive Pheonix against Mutas? Why not go for Blink and Templar, it just seems so much better to me T_T Am i wrong here? No, I believe that is by far the superior choice. Phoenix are too fragile to be effective against mutas. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:46 Ruscour wrote: I don't think the world's best Protoss could've won that, next map is TDA so he'll lose that too...gonna be a miracle to come back now, Oz needed to win one of these early games to have a chance great play by Curious, credit where credit's due  TDA is not Zerg favored. At the very least not half as much as Bel'Shir Beach | ||
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Fig
United States1324 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:47 Clefairy wrote: What's up with all these base trades these days Protoss armies are a lot more immobile than zerg runbys/muta or terran drops, so they only have that option is those cases | ||
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
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friendbg
Bulgaria576 Posts
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habbey
United States405 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:46 dooraven wrote: Now that Crossfire and Belshir are out I want too see how they do on a non zerg favoured map. And no dual sight to boot, the stage is set for a 'comeback' | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
Don't try and take any balance out of this map, because of the huge amounts of counter attacks you can do and the wide open spaces AND the hard to take third its basically much easier for zerg to win vs protoss and it stings to see it still in the GSL mappool. Makes me wonder if they should just disallow some maps in some match ups I.E. Taldarim or Shakuras and Belshir beach in ZvP. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:47 Warrice wrote: i dont think so.. zerg here, whenever protoss gets storm muta ling has to stop or the zerg will lose. atleast in my experience. The thing is, it doesn't really matter what Protoss has with Muta harass, you need to be transitioning into something else once they have Storm out so you don't outright die but we don't have good static anti-air like Terran does, Muta harass remains effective all game providing you have the multitasking ability to juke storms | ||
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Sanchonator
Australia490 Posts
those force fields... so fucking good, but the constant pressure eventually got him | ||
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