EPTHaa it feels good, I need hookers now.
(the hooker part I'm not sure :D)
[GSL] Oct Code S RO16 Day 2 - Page 206
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Haa it feels good, I need hookers now. (the hooker part I'm not sure :D) | ||
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
this day didnt show that anything is op if anything it shows how good terrans can be if they sit back and do nothing aggressive besides drops till max. which is something EVERY race needs to understand... the easiest and most guaranteed way of beating zerg is to actually do as little as possible till max food. | ||
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secretary bird
447 Posts
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:20 epoc wrote: Gsl does have a lot of terrans. Nestea wont win against mvp. Gotta say the balance doesnt look good looking at statistics I don't see what the point of complaining about balance from the latest results. 20 terrans in ro32 is the problem, not the good ones that made ro8. That initial ro32 race distribution more or less mirrors the ro8's. In other words, the appropriate time to complain is when the ro32 is formed, imo, and there was already plenty of that at the beginning of this season, before the patch. DRG should have won but he played mediocre and Supernova played better than anyone was expecting, also countering DRG's 2 base macro hatch style by just turtling. Then in g3 he takes a really smart switch in style and kills DRG with hellions and gold base. | ||
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IM_Megan
Netherlands744 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:25 Sareth wrote: MVP 3-1 Nestea SuperNova 2-2 Ganzi <- Will be Match of the Day, i dont dare to choose a winner ^.^ Clide 3-1 MMA Happy 3-0 Coca Sir, you are not correct on alot of these matches.  NesTea 3-1  MVPv > care?CoCa 3-2 Happy | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:23 Herry wrote: he was still on 2 base, same drone count and 40 supply behind. His GG was warranted. He just choked, didn't build roaches or do any economic damage to him and what happens when a Terran gets a gold base and the zerg does nothing? the zerg loses. not saying you're wrong, just pointing out that supernova had his fair share of terrible positions, but only gged after slugging it out proper. it's a very strange mentality for a progamer and also for the audience to watch. you lose a crucial battle and gg, okay, understandable. you lose said battle and fight to the last man for a potential comeback, big props. But if you play on and then couple minutes later think "eh....fuck it", well, it's just not a winning mentality, or good for the fans to watch. | ||
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:24 Herry wrote: \He had max upgrades, 6 bases, and every tier of tech. and Supernova was still on 4 base and was building marine/maurder toward the end there. and it still took him that long. Zerg just has too few options/fewest units and terran has MULTIPLE ways to hard counter zerg t3. Terran has the most units and abilities in the game by far. Honestly the only thing zerg really has going for it is mobility, which doesnt work so well against turtles unless they make a mistake in defence (if supernova hadn't let those nyduses around the map DRG wouldnt have had a chance in hell in a split map. Look at Puma vs Idra tal'darim g1 IEM GZ, only reason Idra won is because he found some holes in puma's defence. | ||
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:24 Herry wrote: He had max upgrades, 6 bases, and every tier of tech. and Supernova was still on 4 base and was building marine/maurder toward the end there. and it still took him that long. So? That has nothing to do with balance.... It's a function of the race, Terran is supposed to be good at turtleing - just like SC1. Zerg has it's functions that are only applicable to it too. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:27 IM_Megan wrote: NesTea 3-1 MVPMVP has beaten Nestea everytime they met. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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TolEranceNA
Canada434 Posts
 .GSL November: Professor Tea and the Terrans. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Seems they are looking how to reform code S with seeding and I don't know what else. | ||
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IM_Megan
Netherlands744 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:25 MrCon wrote: Haa it feels good, I need hookers now. (the hooker part I'm not sure :D) gimyoungjin oGsSuperNova Oh, that feels good. The Vixen | ||
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Luppy1
Singapore177 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:20 shadymmj wrote: I seriously had no opinion whatsoever on this "dong" zerg guy (although his name is rather similar to the true king of zerg), but after tuning in for the half of game 2 and all of game 3, he comes off to me as a guy who just...suddenly gives up. And I mean fantasy-esque gg timings right there. Watched supernova hold on for so long on 4 bases for most of the game, think he did a great job although he lost, but he turned it into a great game anyhow. And dong had pull to out the /dance, okay fair enough - we're good sports, but he proceeded to get promptly beaten in the 3rd set without even putting up a fight. I don't blame people for playing badly and losing, but if you drone drilled and lost too much, then maybe you should just gg right there and everyone would understand. If you decide to play on, then play on. Not lose a couple units and then gg...only fantasy is allowed to do that. Supernova played with a sizeable disadvantage in income and still gave it all he got. Dong dude just flat out quit. Not looking forward to him again. Maybe it's the overhype. At least idra is a colourful personality outside the game. Correct me if I'm wrong, please. But, if a terran loses the army he pushed out with but he made sufficient tanks during the engagement and seiged them up nicely behind his structures, he's pretty safe from attacks, even after the zerg destroys his army (Not forgetting that banelings are actually one use and the zerg army isnt much of an army after any engagement). So, it's not really like supernova played on despite being already losing. He was down on supply. But, at no point was he losing. If a zerg loses his army to an engagement just outside his natural, it's pretty much gg. Why wouldnt he gg out? | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:16 snafoo wrote: MVP vs Happy finals, calling it now. Yeah, another boring TvT final where we all know mvp will take it. | ||
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IM_Megan
Netherlands744 Posts
NesTea will use his secret unit this time, the zergling. | ||
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Kitaen
Austria466 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:22 Maghetti wrote: I thought poorly of supernova for seasons now until I saw him get what I think was a 6 kill in a korean KOTH. His play looked crazy good and since then I felt he had just been choking in his code S games. With that said he played like Mvp that game. He read his opponents style, hard countered it with crazy greed and crazy turtling. DRG is with out a doubt the best mechanical zerg in the world and the best zvt player in the world but he does have some weaknesses. He has no Julyzerg in him. He doesn't punish extreme greed very often. Doesn't cheese enough in general to prevent greediness. His mass muta is predictable because he is 10x better than everyone else with mutas. He needs a different style to supplement his normal style to prevent this sortof hard countering. And his ultras I didn't like. There is time for ultras, they are great at suddenly smashing a terran as they spone, but he needed something else if he was to fight multiple battles in a row. Low ultra numbers just sorta die to marauders. SuperNova played the player. He is a lot better than he has looked in code S. absolutely correct supernova played the player, would have lost to july a dozen times playing this style | ||
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Eternalmisfit
United States643 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:23 RedDragon571 wrote: that may say more about game design than anything. Code S terrans are favored against the other races and the maps are particularly good for terran this season. I think even the best zergs in the world are fighting an uphill battle against code S terrans. Leenok lost, Nestea went 2-1 to virus, BARELY winning the last game. DRG played great but really I didn't have the tools to deal with code s terran play. terrans a bit op atm and until a patch or HOTS comes out, baring walking helions  . Maybe things will shape up better, balance and game design wise.The maps used today were Daybreak, Dual Sight, Crossfire, and Metal. Daybreak and Crossfire are mostly zerg favored. All metal games had cross spawns which is neutral/slightly zerg favored. Dual sight is 53-47 which is close to balanced. This season ZvT is 10-11 which is close to 50% Today ZvT was 4-5 which is also close to 50% There were no 2rax (except 1 completely botched attempts), no bunker play, only 2 games had mass BFH (one was lost by T), only 1 game had ghost snipes (which was lost by T). Pretty, none of this considered 'OP' came into play today. Despite all this, people still go about QQing about balance in TvZ matchup. | ||
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
On October 05 2011 23:16 RedDragon571 wrote: supernova got the gold early and couldnt be punished for it, nothing DRG coulda done after that. with mules on the gold your so far behind that all the money banes in the world wont stop that many marine medivac. Hell no, DRG messed scouting up repeatedly. He also messed up drone micro. Everyone knows that you need to pull at least 5 drones to stop bunker, I always pull 6 to be sure. The trick is to chase marines back to terran's base with 6! zerglings before helions come out TO SCOUT. Everyone knows that, yet DRG must have thought something else. | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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