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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 10:49:12
October 03 2011 10:46 GMT
#581
The xelnaga fortress game was clutch play after clutch play after clutch play from Oz.
I rewatched all the protosses code A runs multiple times to take notes for an eventual pimpest play (because there were lot of pimp plays in those games ^^) and in that game he was really on top of everything.
(by the way, making that pimpest play just a day before the last 2 GSTL days was despressing, protoss play in GSTL was so sick that it made some of the clutch plays not so clutch on comparison :D)
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 03 2011 10:46 GMT
#582
On October 03 2011 19:43 Gackt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:41 ScaringKids wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:39 Nibbler89 wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:38 ScaringKids wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:34 Nibbler89 wrote:
Does anyone else feel magic box shouldn't be in the game? It would be cool to see them actually have to split mutas not just move command then press H. Anyone can magic box, not everyone can split vs banes like MKP.


Not sure if serious...

If so then..GET OUT.


Allrighty then.


Im just sayin man, that would be so so hard to do, doesnt make much sense to me. But im just a Gold league noob, and i can be totally wrong.



Then let me explain to you how insane it would be to micro all mutas while microing speedlings and speedbanelings when a terran is spread out.

It is impossible. There. The magic box needs to be there.

Then again, I think this brings up an interesting question.

Would you rather have the BW magic box to stack Mutas for BW muta micro, or would you have SC2 magic box to spread Mutas against spash attacks? Just a thought.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 03 2011 10:47 GMT
#583
On October 03 2011 19:46 Lythis_ wrote:
Think Sage will take it, showed very impressive play vs Genius in terms of metagame knowledge and i feel Oz capitalized too much on the mistakes of JYP in his last PvP series. Mistakes Sage won't make.


Genius would beg to differ that Sage makes no mistakes. =P
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
October 03 2011 10:47 GMT
#584
On October 03 2011 19:46 MrCon wrote:
The xelnaga fortress game was clutch play after clutch play after clutch play from Oz.
I rewatched all the protosses code A runs multiple times to take notes for an eventual pimpest play (because there were lot of pimp plays in those games ^^) and in that game he was really on top of everything.
(by the way, making that pimpest play just a day before the last 2 GSTL days was despressing, protoss play in GSTL was so sick that it made some of the clutch plays not clutch oin comparison :D)


His forcefields in that game on XNF were so on point. Like literally every one was picture perfect.

Didn't realise you'd gone ahead and made a pimpest play video, when will you post it? =)
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
October 03 2011 10:48 GMT
#585
On October 03 2011 19:43 Gackt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:41 ScaringKids wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:39 Nibbler89 wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:38 ScaringKids wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:34 Nibbler89 wrote:
Does anyone else feel magic box shouldn't be in the game? It would be cool to see them actually have to split mutas not just move command then press H. Anyone can magic box, not everyone can split vs banes like MKP.


Not sure if serious...

If so then..GET OUT.


Allrighty then.


Im just sayin man, that would be so so hard to do, doesnt make much sense to me. But im just a Gold league noob, and i can be totally wrong.



Then let me explain to you how insane it would be to micro all mutas while microing speedlings and speedbanelings when a terran is spread out.

It is impossible. There. The magic box needs to be there.


Nothing is impossible. That doesnt sound harder than terran micro at all.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
October 03 2011 10:48 GMT
#586
On October 03 2011 19:46 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:43 Gackt_ wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:41 ScaringKids wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:39 Nibbler89 wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:38 ScaringKids wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:34 Nibbler89 wrote:
Does anyone else feel magic box shouldn't be in the game? It would be cool to see them actually have to split mutas not just move command then press H. Anyone can magic box, not everyone can split vs banes like MKP.


Not sure if serious...

If so then..GET OUT.


Allrighty then.


Im just sayin man, that would be so so hard to do, doesnt make much sense to me. But im just a Gold league noob, and i can be totally wrong.



Then let me explain to you how insane it would be to micro all mutas while microing speedlings and speedbanelings when a terran is spread out.

It is impossible. There. The magic box needs to be there.

Then again, I think this brings up an interesting question.

Would you rather have the BW magic box to stack Mutas for BW muta micro, or would you have SC2 magic box to spread Mutas against spash attacks? Just a thought.



I want both, personally, the more micro opportunities the better

But this isn't really the topic to discuss this really (LR...) t.~
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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 03 2011 10:48 GMT
#587
On October 03 2011 19:42 ToyOmnibus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:38 Philipd122 wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:36 SpunXtain wrote:
Pro tip if you want to be good at starcraft: Pick zerg. Build mutalisks and infestors. You'll win every game and won't have to wory about wasting any apm on micro during battles. Just a-move and go back to macroing atur main.


Pro Tip: A-moving with infestors is always auto win.


No. Infestors require micro just like defilers...... wait wrong game sorry. I mean zerglings...... no thats A-move. Hmmm..... what other Zerg unit requires micro......

Terran on the other hand need a lot of micro to properly control. Every unit needs quick hands and eyes. I wish terran units were a little stronger to compensate for this.


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Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
October 03 2011 10:48 GMT
#588
On October 03 2011 19:39 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:37 Pwere wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:27 Telcontar wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:23 Pwere wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:21 Maghetti wrote:
This strat made nestea look like he could do nothing to it. Lets see how Curious does.
If he goes ultra/mutas, eventually with a sparkle of broodlords, he has a shot. If he can also keep 8 gas. If he can engage in the open. And there are no HSM.

That's all it takes.
On October 03 2011 19:23 Telcontar wrote:
Upgrading vehicle weapons is pretty pointless. Thors already do ridiculous damage, and upgrades don't affect hellion vs ling battle much.
Thors vs Mutas is heavily dependant on upgrades though.

Armour upgrades yes. The splash damage means weapons upgrades aren't really necessary.
+2 Thors two shot +0 mutas, and +3 two shot +2 mutas. I'd say that's pretty fucking relevant.

It kinda feels weird that this series was 3-0. It feels like one of the closest series in a long time, yet it's already over.

Sure it helps, but this is the thing: A lot of zergs completely stop muta production as soon as they see mass thors (as Curious did for a while). Getting weapons upgrades because there's a chance that he doesn't, is flimsy and dangerous. It's much safer and smarter to get those armour upgrades.
Except that hellions also benefit from weapon upgrades when BBQing drones or fighting banelings. And once you have a handful of vikings out, he's gonna have to tech switch out of Broodlords. He can go muta or ultra, then weapon upgrades are actually awesome.

Armor upgrades are kinda cool when your thors are in low number with scv repair and infestors are unlikely, but I think the spirit of the mech build lies with the weapon upgrades. Going for the initial +1 armor and then going for weapon upgrades sounds good too, considering the +1 upgrade is fast and cheap, and by the time you start a +2, you usually have decent numbers, at which point weapon upgrades seem better.
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 10:49:33
October 03 2011 10:49 GMT
#589
On October 03 2011 19:46 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:43 Gackt_ wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:41 ScaringKids wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:39 Nibbler89 wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:38 ScaringKids wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:34 Nibbler89 wrote:
Does anyone else feel magic box shouldn't be in the game? It would be cool to see them actually have to split mutas not just move command then press H. Anyone can magic box, not everyone can split vs banes like MKP.


Not sure if serious...

If so then..GET OUT.


Allrighty then.


Im just sayin man, that would be so so hard to do, doesnt make much sense to me. But im just a Gold league noob, and i can be totally wrong.



Then let me explain to you how insane it would be to micro all mutas while microing speedlings and speedbanelings when a terran is spread out.

It is impossible. There. The magic box needs to be there.

Then again, I think this brings up an interesting question.

Would you rather have the BW magic box to stack Mutas for BW muta micro, or would you have SC2 magic box to spread Mutas against spash attacks? Just a thought.


This is similar to what I was originally thinking along with idra mentioning "People think marine splitting is hard I just did that with mutas"(can't remember the situation though) but I think it's just not a discussion that belongs in the thread so I apologize for bringing it up.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
October 03 2011 10:49 GMT
#590
Are the GSTL finals held at another venue instead of Mokdong studio?
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
October 03 2011 10:50 GMT
#591
On October 03 2011 19:49 pdd wrote:
Are the GSTL finals held at another venue instead of Mokdong studio?


Oh god I hope they have them in an actual arena, that will be so much better and the team league really deserves to go cap off its first season in style. Then again whenever things are held outside the studio the finals suck so maybe for the sake of good games it should stay there...

=p
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
October 03 2011 10:50 GMT
#592
On October 03 2011 19:49 pdd wrote:
Are the GSTL finals held at another venue instead of Mokdong studio?

I'm not sure they've announced anything yet, I sure hope so! This GSTL season has been the best SC2 event GOM's done. Hopefully they put on a big show.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 03 2011 10:50 GMT
#593
On October 03 2011 19:47 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:46 MrCon wrote:
The xelnaga fortress game was clutch play after clutch play after clutch play from Oz.
I rewatched all the protosses code A runs multiple times to take notes for an eventual pimpest play (because there were lot of pimp plays in those games ^^) and in that game he was really on top of everything.
(by the way, making that pimpest play just a day before the last 2 GSTL days was despressing, protoss play in GSTL was so sick that it made some of the clutch plays not clutch oin comparison :D)


His forcefields in that game on XNF were so on point. Like literally every one was picture perfect.

Didn't realise you'd gone ahead and made a pimpest play video, when will you post it? =)

I'm too noob in video so it could take a lot of time. For now I watched all the games a lot of times and noted the timestamps.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 03 2011 10:50 GMT
#594
Now let's find out if Daybreak can also make PvPs awesome.
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
October 03 2011 10:50 GMT
#595
This magic box discussion doesn't make any sense. All air units can "magic box", it's just the overall mechanic to keep them from acting like ground units and stacking. You can't just "remove" that from the game, so the discussion *should* be "should Thors have their splash range increased?". The answer of course is "no".
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
October 03 2011 10:51 GMT
#596
On October 03 2011 19:50 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:49 pdd wrote:
Are the GSTL finals held at another venue instead of Mokdong studio?

I'm not sure they've announced anything yet, I sure hope so! This GSTL season has been the best SC2 event GOM's done. Hopefully they put on a big show.

Quite strange that they haven't announced it even though its in less than a week. Will be quite disappointing if it were only held in the studio .
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Lythis_
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands16 Posts
October 03 2011 10:51 GMT
#597
On October 03 2011 19:47 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:46 Lythis_ wrote:
Think Sage will take it, showed very impressive play vs Genius in terms of metagame knowledge and i feel Oz capitalized too much on the mistakes of JYP in his last PvP series. Mistakes Sage won't make.


Genius would beg to differ that Sage makes no mistakes. =P


Yeah if he goes immortal heavy he might have a problem :p Altho JYP was doing voidray openings followed by hidden expo's. Don't see Sage taking those kind of risks vs Oz.
EminentRising
Profile Joined April 2011
United States205 Posts
October 03 2011 10:51 GMT
#598
im liking the racial voices did blizzard have a hand in that?
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anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
October 03 2011 10:51 GMT
#599
Woah that guy w/ the cheerful looks like Doa's brother or something.
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RisingTide
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia769 Posts
October 03 2011 10:51 GMT
#600
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