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699 Posts
Sunday, Oct 02 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
EU: Sunday, Oct 02 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1176.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/motbob/vs.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1602.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/flags/tw.png)  Sen < Dual Sight > ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/flags/au.png) mOOnGLaDe Sen < Bel'shir Beach > mOOnGLaDe Sen < The Shattered Temple > mOOnGLaDeResults+ Show Spoiler +Recommended games+ Show Spoiler +Poll: Sen vs Moonglade G1Not worth it.... (5) 83% I like it! (1) 17% If you have time (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Sen vs Moonglade G1 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
Poll: Sen vs Moonglade G2I like it! (4) 80% If you have time (1) 20% Not worth it.... (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Sen vs Moonglade G2 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
Poll: Sen vs Moonglade G3I like it! (8) 100% If you have time (0) 0% Not worth it.... (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Sen vs Moonglade G3 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1152.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1588.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/flags/ua.png)  Strelok < Dual Sight > ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/flags/ro.png)  NightEnD Strelok < Bel'shir Beach > NightEnD Strelok < The Shattered Temple > NightEnDResults+ Show Spoiler +Recommended games+ Show Spoiler +Poll: Strelok vs NightEnD G1I like it! (6) 100% If you have time (0) 0% Not worth it.... (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Strelok vs NightEnD G1 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
Poll: Strelok vs NightEnD G2If you have time (3) 50% I like it! (2) 33% Not worth it.... (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Strelok vs NightEnD G2 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
Poll: Strelok vs NightEnD G3I like it! (7) 70% Not worth it.... (2) 20% If you have time (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Strelok vs NightEnD G3 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1825.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/980.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/flags/kr.png) SeleCT < Dual Sight > ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/flags/nl.png) Ret SeleCT < Bel'shir Beach > Ret SeleCT < The Shattered Temple > RetResults+ Show Spoiler +Recommended games+ Show Spoiler +Poll: Select vs Ret G1Not worth it.... (6) 60% I like it! (3) 30% If you have time (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Select vs Ret G1 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
Poll: Select vs Ret G2Not worth it.... (4) 44% I like it! (3) 33% If you have time (2) 22% 9 total votes Your vote: Select vs Ret G2 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
Poll: Select vs Ret G3I like it! (14) 88% Not worth it.... (2) 13% If you have time (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Select vs Ret G3 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
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Left side sweep today methinks.
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No way. Ret has this I think.
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On October 02 2011 06:13 red4ce wrote:
Left side sweep today methinks.
Sen - yes
Strelok - yes
Select - no
Ret should be able to win vs Select or at least it's an even match that can go both ways.
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United States97276 Posts
On October 02 2011 06:20 Malstriks wrote:
sen, strelok, ret. gg
Same here. Sounds like easy picks. Maybe there will be a surprise... but meh.... doesn't seem like it
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yeah seleCT can't micro for shit in the 'secret' NASL lag.
so ret will make 100 drones, lose 20 instead of 60 to harass cuz of the above and then win.
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Judicator's Picks
Sen < > Moonglade
Strelok < > Nightend
Select < > Ret
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mOOnGLaDe fighting! though he hates ZvZ
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Judging from last week's results, don't see any way Select is beating Ret with latency
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Sen vs Moonglade! Niiice!
Here to hoping moonglade with the upset!
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699 Posts
Poll: Sen vs Moonglade G1Not worth it.... (5) 83% I like it! (1) 17% If you have time (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Sen vs Moonglade G1 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
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Sen strelok and Ret to win
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699 Posts
Poll: Sen vs Moonglade G2I like it! (4) 80% If you have time (1) 20% Not worth it.... (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Sen vs Moonglade G2 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
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I like watching Sen's bane control.
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What an awkward way to say "when you make more units, you need to allocate more minerals and larvae to overlords" xD
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United States97276 Posts
lol Sen bringing his spines forward
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699 Posts
Poll: Sen vs Moonglade G3I like it! (8) 100% If you have time (0) 0% Not worth it.... (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Sen vs Moonglade G3 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
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Watching game 3 I have to wonder why Sen thought it necessary to do that build in game 1, his standard play is just so far above moonglade
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lol sens interviews are always good
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lol sen
The Torp: What were you thinking in g1?
Sen: No one drone scouts on that map. It was like "What the fuck! drone coming"
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Lmao epic interview from Sen.
"I defend and then *BLEEP* wtf I see drone coming, so ya I defend."
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sen's mechanics and defensive micro is just so awesome. shame don't get to see much of his play in the international scene =[
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LOL
The Torp: I know you have a tough division what do you think of that?
Sen: Really? I don't know who is in my division.
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United States97276 Posts
Good to see Sen is still looking good even though he's playing weaker competition in the TeSL. GL Sen!
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lol sen doesnt even know who is in his group lol
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Sen is so awesome, i hope he's improved even more from his Taiwanese league to dominate NASL
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From what Sen is saying, TW/CH/KR Zerg players don't seem to drone scout. That's interesting - it's also what Dimaga noticed and exploited against Nestea and yesterday against XiGua.
Anyways, Sen has great talent. Too bad he has to practice on ladder most of the times (it sounds like) because of the lack of comparable competition in Taiwan.
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Strelok ninja hellion build inc  ...oh and NE scouts it
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This is a sick build from strelok, unless he makes a huge mistake this game is probably his
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On October 02 2011 10:39 Azarkon wrote:
From what Sen is saying, TW/CH/KR Zerg players don't seem to drone scout. That's interesting - it's also what Dimaga noticed and exploited against Nestea and yesterday against XiGua.
Anyways, Sen has great talent. Too bad he has to practice on ladder most of the times (it sounds like) because of the lack of comparable competition in Taiwan.
there was an awesome thread in the strategy forum compiling GSL ZvZ matches with details about 15 hatching. in that thread, the guy also posted a pretty awesome conversation he had with DRG about it, and it seemed like they rely entirely on overlord/zergling scouting if they go pool first (ie don't need any info before that), so if they drone scout it reveals that they are going hatch first. so they go 15 hatch blind because they don't want to reveal that they went 15 hatch.
nestea has gotten so many build order wins because of this, not only with cheese, but with fast expand to the gold. the opponent has to react as if nestea is one-basing because they don't know the pool timing and will find the gold base late.
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That's some nasty build. Rofl. Abuse everything in Terran power!
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699 Posts
Poll: Strelok vs NightEnD G1I like it! (6) 100% If you have time (0) 0% Not worth it.... (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Strelok vs NightEnD G1 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
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On October 02 2011 10:47 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 10:39 Azarkon wrote:
From what Sen is saying, TW/CH/KR Zerg players don't seem to drone scout. That's interesting - it's also what Dimaga noticed and exploited against Nestea and yesterday against XiGua.
Anyways, Sen has great talent. Too bad he has to practice on ladder most of the times (it sounds like) because of the lack of comparable competition in Taiwan. there was an awesome thread in the strategy forum compiling GSL ZvZ matches with details about 15 hatching. in that thread, the guy also posted a pretty awesome conversation he had with DRG about it, and it seemed like they rely entirely on overlord/zergling scouting if they go pool first (ie don't need any info before that), so if they drone scout it reveals that they are going hatch first. so they go 15 hatch blind because they don't want to reveal that they went 15 hatch. nestea has gotten so many build order wins because of this, not only with cheese, but with fast expand to the gold. the opponent has to react as if nestea is one-basing because they don't know the pool timing and will find the gold base late.
That seems a pretty rigid meta-game issue alright. Yeah, it can be easily exploited by foreigners since I don't think 15 hatch is safe against drone zergling all-ins if scouted early enough.
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Holy shit Strelok you look like such a beast.
I'm so glad all that hard training have been paying off
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On October 02 2011 10:56 darthfoley wrote:
how did Strelok win g1?
Total domination.
Proxy factory into nightends base. Then Helion together with 2 maureders 1 marine pressure. Did alot of dmg. Then Banshee play followed by a little marine/maureder pressure.
Now strelok was so fare ahead and he just went and killed him with 1-1 in upgrades
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I remember around 16,000 viewers a night or so in NASL season 1. What happened to everyone?
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On October 02 2011 10:58 Tewks44 wrote:
I remember around 16,000 viewers a night or so in NASL season 1. What happened to everyone?
Less publicity, no koreans, 3 games a day (sometimes). Already made season 1 bias (because of bad production)
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On October 02 2011 11:02 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 10:58 Tewks44 wrote:
I remember around 16,000 viewers a night or so in NASL season 1. What happened to everyone? Less publicity, no koreans, 3 games a day (sometimes). Already made season 1 bias (because of bad production)
That, and there's also day 2 of IEM Guangzhou that's starting up right now. Concurrent tournaments usually tend to eat into NASL viewership quite a bit, I've found.
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also IPL team arena with SlayerS vs Mouz
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Strelok is doing a phenomenal job. I think he could take it this season. Also if Gretorp says "entire" one more time I'm going to snap!
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Did strelok have a proxy starport making banshees? There have been banshees in the production tab for a while, and nightend's army just killed off a floating starport off near strelok's 4th.
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On October 02 2011 11:10 jrdn wrote:
Strelok is doing a phenomenal job. I think he could take it this season. Also if Gretorp says "entire" one more time I'm going to snap!
gretorp and totalbiscuit are the two casters that have this tendeny of repeating the same words/expressions ALL the time, it's really annoying
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On October 02 2011 11:12 Oboeman wrote:
Did strelok have a proxy starport making banshees? There have been banshees in the production tab for a while, and nightend's army just killed off a floating starport off near strelok's 4th.
Yes lol
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699 Posts
Poll: Strelok vs NightEnD G2If you have time (3) 50% I like it! (2) 33% Not worth it.... (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Strelok vs NightEnD G2 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
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Oh wow... NASL is a month behind T_T
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Sept 12 is coming up? How long ago was this recorded lol.
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On October 02 2011 11:04 Wtamer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 11:02 darthfoley wrote:On October 02 2011 10:58 Tewks44 wrote:
I remember around 16,000 viewers a night or so in NASL season 1. What happened to everyone? Less publicity, no koreans, 3 games a day (sometimes). Already made season 1 bias (because of bad production) That, and there's also day 2 of IEM Guangzhou that's starting up right now. Concurrent tournaments usually tend to eat into NASL viewership quite a bit, I've found.
There's over 8k viewers watching Slayers v. Mouz right now as well, and since that event started BEFORE NASL, most people are probably waiting until it ends. I know I was planning on switching to NASL or IEM after it's over. (I just came here to check results lol)
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699 Posts
Poll: Strelok vs NightEnD G3I like it! (7) 70% Not worth it.... (2) 20% If you have time (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Strelok vs NightEnD G3 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
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Sorry to say this but the level of multitasking is so bad between these two players. GSL has spoiled my eyes, I suppose. I hope in the future they show APM tabs in mid battles or harrass (like for 10 secs, not just for a split second) so that who's actually doing more actions when matters.
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On October 02 2011 11:35 usethis2 wrote:
Sorry to say this but the level of multitasking is so bad between these two players. GSL has spoiled my eyes, I suppose. I hope in the future they show APM tabs in mid battles or harrass (like for 10 secs, not just for a split second) so that who's actually doing more actions when matters.
Yea because we all know players with the highest APM always win o.0
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Man, strelok needs some better practice partners. I feel like his play is really strong but he's hindered by his team.
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The Weekly Strelok Interview, yes capitalized, is the best part about NASL
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Hahahaha!
just when you thought strelok interviews couldn't get any better.
well played NASL
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On October 02 2011 11:38 Badfatpanda wrote:
The Weekly Strelok Interview, yes capitalized, is the best part about NASL
This one more epic than normal, idk wtf is going on, but Strelok just keeps smiling lol
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lol...
I would've liked a SCREW IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE
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Russian Federation949 Posts
On October 02 2011 11:38 ZeaL. wrote:
Man, strelok needs some better practice partners. I feel like his play is really strong but he's hindered by his team.
His practice partners are Brat-Ok (possibly best tvt in europe), Dimaga (is there a better zerg outside of korea?) and Lowely. the only weakness in his practice is TvP
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On October 02 2011 11:42 Pirat6662001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 11:38 ZeaL. wrote:
Man, strelok needs some better practice partners. I feel like his play is really strong but he's hindered by his team. His practice partners are Brat-Ok (possibly best tvt in europe), Dimaga (is there a better zerg outside of korea?) and Lowely. the only weakness in his practice is TvP
MorroW and Nerchio 
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On October 02 2011 11:42 Pirat6662001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 11:38 ZeaL. wrote:
Man, strelok needs some better practice partners. I feel like his play is really strong but he's hindered by his team. His practice partners are Brat-Ok (possibly best tvt in europe), Dimaga (is there a better zerg outside of korea?) and Lowely. the only weakness in his practice is TvP
He must call Mister Ra to the rescue on this one.
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On October 02 2011 11:42 Pirat6662001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 11:38 ZeaL. wrote:
Man, strelok needs some better practice partners. I feel like his play is really strong but he's hindered by his team. His practice partners are Brat-Ok (possibly best tvt in europe), Dimaga (is there a better zerg outside of korea?) and Lowely. the only weakness in his practice is TvP
Honestly those all are relatively mediocre in the grand shceme of things. There's numerous better Zergs than Dimaga and Brat-Ok is nothing but a midrange terran
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Poll: Select vs Ret G1Not worth it.... (6) 60% I like it! (3) 30% If you have time (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Select vs Ret G1 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
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Russian Federation949 Posts
On October 02 2011 11:44 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 11:42 Pirat6662001 wrote:On October 02 2011 11:38 ZeaL. wrote:
Man, strelok needs some better practice partners. I feel like his play is really strong but he's hindered by his team. His practice partners are Brat-Ok (possibly best tvt in europe), Dimaga (is there a better zerg outside of korea?) and Lowely. the only weakness in his practice is TvP MorroW and Nerchio
What has Morrow acomplished lattely? cause i have just seend dimaga 6-0 his group in IEM with a korean there
Nerchio and Stephano have not been consistent enough yet, give it couple more month
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Russian Federation949 Posts
On October 02 2011 11:44 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 11:42 Pirat6662001 wrote:On October 02 2011 11:38 ZeaL. wrote:
Man, strelok needs some better practice partners. I feel like his play is really strong but he's hindered by his team. His practice partners are Brat-Ok (possibly best tvt in europe), Dimaga (is there a better zerg outside of korea?) and Lowely. the only weakness in his practice is TvP Honestly those all are relatively mediocre in the grand shceme of things. There's numerous better Zergs than Dimaga and Brat-Ok is nothing but a midrange terran
Brat Oks other match ups are nothing special, but his TvT has been amazing lattely (especially if it gets past 40 minutes, never seen him lose a late game air war)
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Fool me once, shame on me.
Fool me twice, not possible.
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Are Gretorp and Gunrun related...? They look very similar.
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Poll: Select vs Ret G2Not worth it.... (4) 44% I like it! (3) 33% If you have time (2) 22% 9 total votes Your vote: Select vs Ret G2 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
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On October 02 2011 11:57 Pirat6662001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 11:44 Badfatpanda wrote:On October 02 2011 11:42 Pirat6662001 wrote:On October 02 2011 11:38 ZeaL. wrote:
Man, strelok needs some better practice partners. I feel like his play is really strong but he's hindered by his team. His practice partners are Brat-Ok (possibly best tvt in europe), Dimaga (is there a better zerg outside of korea?) and Lowely. the only weakness in his practice is TvP MorroW and Nerchio What has Morrow acomplished lattely? cause i have just seend dimaga 6-0 his group in IEM with a korean there Nerchio and Stephano have not been consistent enough yet, give it couple more month
Watch Nerchio's vods from the Grubby Invitational if you think he's inconsistent , Yes Stephano definitely is iffy right now but has potential as I didn't include him, as for MorroW he's been doing work for Mouz in their team leagues, watch the vods of Mouz/SlayerS to see him posting great results against great players, I won't give names as they were just played.
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On October 02 2011 11:44 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 11:42 Pirat6662001 wrote:On October 02 2011 11:38 ZeaL. wrote:
Man, strelok needs some better practice partners. I feel like his play is really strong but he's hindered by his team. His practice partners are Brat-Ok (possibly best tvt in europe), Dimaga (is there a better zerg outside of korea?) and Lowely. the only weakness in his practice is TvP Honestly those all are relatively mediocre in the grand shceme of things. There's numerous better Zergs than Dimaga and Brat-Ok is nothing but a midrange terran
Say what?
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Gretorp and GunRun have an amazing synergy. Gretorp gets a lot more funny with GunRun, and GunRun's voice is erotic.
That game was kinda hilarious too.
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impressive defensive play by ret so far, fending off a hellion runby and a drop witrh hellion support
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That's how you beat bunker rush. Well done Ret. I was so frustrated by Haypro and Darkforce yesterday.
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104/200 supply ret
wtf? Why so many overlords
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I love Select's turret placement.
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why run away 10 mutas from only scvs
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699 Posts
Poll: Select vs Ret G3I like it! (14) 88% Not worth it.... (2) 13% If you have time (0) 0% 16 total votes Your vote: Select vs Ret G3 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
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On October 02 2011 12:12 Silidons wrote:
why run away 10 mutas from only scvs
there were marines in there too. Not many, but enough that it would have been a bad trade for ret.
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On October 02 2011 06:28 nath wrote:
yeah seleCT can't micro for shit in the 'secret' NASL lag.
so ret will make 100 drones, lose 20 instead of 60 to harass cuz of the above and then win.
You understand they are both going to be lagging since it is kr to na and eu to na... No need to post excuses, everyone knows lag exists, but you don't need to be a jerk about it.
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Okay, I think GLaDe can win the rest of his games, except maybe against SeleCT.
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isn't it like if the game lags for one player it also lags the same amount for the other one?
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On October 02 2011 06:13 red4ce wrote:
Left side sweep today methinks.
Well, not sweep, but they still won xD
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On October 02 2011 23:15 r3SpaVVn wrote:
isn't it like if the game lags for one player it also lags the same amount for the other one?
Nope, two players in a same game can experience significantly different levels of lag.
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On October 02 2011 11:32 Fighter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 11:04 Wtamer wrote:On October 02 2011 11:02 darthfoley wrote:On October 02 2011 10:58 Tewks44 wrote:
I remember around 16,000 viewers a night or so in NASL season 1. What happened to everyone? Less publicity, no koreans, 3 games a day (sometimes). Already made season 1 bias (because of bad production) That, and there's also day 2 of IEM Guangzhou that's starting up right now. Concurrent tournaments usually tend to eat into NASL viewership quite a bit, I've found. There's over 8k viewers watching Slayers v. Mouz right now as well, and since that event started BEFORE NASL, most people are probably waiting until it ends. I know I was planning on switching to NASL or IEM after it's over. (I just came here to check results lol)
I think it's several reasons.
1) Season 1 was over summer, Season 2 is during school time, so that cuts into a lot of casual viewership (and I think most people watching SC2 are in high school or college). Even if they don't have classes, they have hw/exams.
2) Korean withdrawal. I and many others don't care, but it's unreasonable to say viewership wouldn't at all be affected. Interestingly, EU rebroadcast viewership has skyrocketed. I would say they lost about 2k viewers per night because of this, which overall is not that bad.
3) I believe last night there was IEM and the Redbull lan (and to a smaller extent IPTL).
Overall though I don't agree with Wtamer; NASL tends to be robust against competing tournaments except for major LAN events (which most daily tournaments suffer).
But, for example, IPL has not been able to even put a dent on NASL (quite the opposite, I watch mornings and IPL rarely breaks 2k viewers).
Even right now, NASL is at 12k and IPTL is at 4k, with SlayerS playing.
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LOL, Sen interview FTW !!
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god dammit strelok rofl :D:D:D
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Who was other caster near gretorp? I quite liked him
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