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Leave off the casterbashing please. ~Nyovne
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
November 04 2011 16:23 GMT
#1681
On November 05 2011 01:20 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:19 templar rage wrote:
Why wouldn't you just assume that pylon blocks are disabled on any non-ladder versions? I mean, that's literally the only difference between some ladder maps and their tournament counterparts.


Why isn't there a supply depot there? Quite ridicolous to be honest, seems obvious that White-ra didn't know it. Losing because of lack of information about their map version is just lame...


He obviously didn't know it, but it's his responsibility to find that stuff out. Besides, like I said, pretty much all tournament-made maps have that disabled, so it doesn't seem bad to just assume that's the case, even if you don't know for sure. It's probably better to eat a not-insurmountable econ disadvantage then lose the game because your cannon rush doesn't actually work.
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
November 04 2011 16:23 GMT
#1682
On November 05 2011 01:20 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:19 Logros wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:14 TT1 wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:08 Logros wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:05 TT1 wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:02 MCDayC wrote:
TT1, what do you do when you see mass muta?


popular belief is phoenixs but i dont like to do that, if u cant hallu scout with phoenixs 24/7 then u should go stargate cus u always have to be ready for a mut switch but if u scout correctly(which ill admit is hard) then u can hold it with blink stalkers + cannons(u need an early 3rd tho) while making an op army(cus mut comps are extremely weak obv), the key is being ready for the transition beforehand.. if u get caught off guard then ur pretty much fucked

I've held it off quite a few times with blink stalkers, archon, cannons etc and built up to a deathball. But the zergs always just go for a basetrade if you move out to take another base or attack. Doesn't matter if your army is stronger than his with zerg bases all over the map there's almost no way to win a basetrade .


theres actually no way to win a basetrade, just gotta mass cannon + sentry to hold the counters but the problem with that is that it puts ur econ so far behind which makes ur 200 200 push sorta allinish, and if the z chooses not to basetrade with u and just engages ur army that makes for alot of wasted mins on static d =/, ur obv gonna win the 200 vs 200 engamgents vs the z but by then hes usually on 4-5 bases and has enought econ to max out 2-3 times so they eventually manage to whittle ur army down

Yeah that's exactly my problem atm. Maybe I'll just have to try 2 stargate phoenix to try and force them out of muta's.


dont worry brothers ur not alone~~


good its not just me a diamond toss TT.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10036 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:24:07
November 04 2011 16:23 GMT
#1683
stargate actually hard counters ret's style, needs to start void production tho
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Nick3
Profile Joined March 2011
513 Posts
November 04 2011 16:24 GMT
#1684
So annoying that the audio is like 10 seconds before the video!
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
November 04 2011 16:24 GMT
#1685
very interesting strategy by ret. I`m really curious how it plays out.
keep it deep! @zulison
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10036 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:25:31
November 04 2011 16:24 GMT
#1686
oh but ret is going for a hyd ling drop.. gonna be hard to hold off tbh, i thought he was gonna go for a ling bane drop

edit: ah but he went for a weak ling drop..
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 04 2011 16:25 GMT
#1687
fail drop ugh
Terran & Potato Salad.
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
November 04 2011 16:25 GMT
#1688
Should've gone nydus ret :\
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
November 04 2011 16:25 GMT
#1689
On November 05 2011 01:21 Telcontar wrote:
Did Apollo just imply HongUn is one of the best protoss in the world? Not sure if I agree. Being in Code S doesn't necessarily make you a great player.


Getting to semifinals at GSL twice does though...

Hongun may not be GSL champion material but he is one of the best GSL Protoss.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2011 16:25 GMT
#1690
Brilliant defensive posture by white-ra.

I don't think the ling drops are a great plan when the mutas in the earlier games would make white-ra want to have a stargate.

Terminus isn't a great zvp map in either case.
irongar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany21 Posts
November 04 2011 16:25 GMT
#1691
On November 05 2011 01:23 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:20 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:18 ThirdEye wrote:
Ret is such a coward going mutas lol. Insta win against almost every protoss, atleast without blink.

Gogo research blink within 5 minutes now Ra, just in case :>


I had no idea using a strategy that is successful is now considered cowardly.


Its abusive, lol.

LR threads:

Attacks early = cheese
Uses the strengths of its race= abusive
Makes a timming attack= all in
etc..

Don't mind those comments


So Terran plays 95% of their games abusive, because they build tanks in 95% of thier games, and use the strength of their race? WTF man? You have to use the strengths of your race, you can't win any other way.
Train Hard Go Pro!
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
November 04 2011 16:25 GMT
#1692
Are these two just taking turns to throw away games?
@followMVT
ShallNoiseUpon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States311 Posts
November 04 2011 16:26 GMT
#1693
Anyone else getting massive screen tearing?
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
November 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#1694
On November 05 2011 01:25 irongar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:23 windsupernova wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:20 Hassybaby wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:18 ThirdEye wrote:
Ret is such a coward going mutas lol. Insta win against almost every protoss, atleast without blink.

Gogo research blink within 5 minutes now Ra, just in case :>


I had no idea using a strategy that is successful is now considered cowardly.


Its abusive, lol.

LR threads:

Attacks early = cheese
Uses the strengths of its race= abusive
Makes a timming attack= all in
etc..

Don't mind those comments


So Terran plays 95% of their games abusive, because they build tanks in 95% of thier games, and use the strength of their race? WTF man? You have to use the strengths of your race, you can't win any other way.


>_>

You realize I was joking, right?
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
November 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#1695
TARSON HOLDS!
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#1696
2 stupid games a row.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
November 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#1697
Lol what was ret doing there? He started attacking with like 5 hydras against all of White-ra's army.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:28:10
November 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#1698
Can't believe these casters thought whitera was actually in danger of losing there...
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
November 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#1699
On November 05 2011 01:26 ShallNoiseUpon wrote:
Anyone else getting massive screen tearing?


same here
"Thats the moment you send the kids outta the room - when you get contained by MarineKing." Tasteless
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
November 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#1700
jeez apollo/TB that was NOT going to work -_-'
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