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Blaec

Australia4289 Posts

September 21 2011 11:26 GMT

#1581

Steelseries headset instead of the razer?

t1mid

United States143 Posts

September 21 2011 11:27 GMT

#1582

....I can tell from the pixels...ok nm that joke is bad

Ansinjunger

United States2451 Posts

September 21 2011 11:27 GMT

#1583

On September 21 2011 20:26 BFD wrote:
EvilLiquid shirt inc

Or liquid geniuses...after our bodily fluids.

ItsMeDomLee

Canada2732 Posts

September 21 2011 11:27 GMT

#1584

Even meat Artosis?

KiNGxXx

7928 Posts

September 21 2011 11:27 GMT

#1585

Pajegetc

United States3158 Posts

September 21 2011 11:27 GMT

#1586

On September 21 2011 20:26 Blaec wrote:
Steelseries headset instead of the razer?

Gotta rep the new sponser.

priste

United States171 Posts

September 21 2011 11:27 GMT

#1587

cannibalistic casters.

gross ;(

marttorn

Norway5211 Posts

September 21 2011 11:27 GMT

#1588

Well they was dancin' and singin', and movin to the grovin, and just when it hit me, some protoss turned around and shouted: "FUCK! 1/1/1 AGAIN?"

BuZZ123

United States262 Posts

September 21 2011 11:27 GMT

#1589

On September 21 2011 20:26 cyclone25 wrote:
lol EG, really? haha

thats not really eg... thats gom ;p. move onto something else now.

Rayansaki

Portugal1266 Posts

September 21 2011 11:28 GMT

#1590

Huk has a realistic chance of beating MMA, just hope he doesn't get 2nd place and gets matched against Nestea McNeverLost2Protoss

Gotmog

Serbia899 Posts

September 21 2011 11:28 GMT

#1591

go huk!!!!

Mise

Finland580 Posts

September 21 2011 11:28 GMT

#1592

I love how Tastosis doesn't speak anything about Virus.

Blaec

Australia4289 Posts

September 21 2011 11:28 GMT

#1593

On September 21 2011 20:27 Pajegetc wrote:

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Gotta rep the new sponser.

I suppose, but Idra never did.
And the headsets are kinda a league thing.

Not sure how I feel about this.

Orcasgt24

Canada3238 Posts

September 21 2011 11:28 GMT

#1594

LOL Virus getting the cold shoulder

Lysanias

Netherlands8351 Posts

September 21 2011 11:29 GMT

#1595

On September 21 2011 20:26 Blaec wrote:
Steelseries headset instead of the razer?

quality before looks i supose ;p

Serelitz

Netherlands2895 Posts

September 21 2011 11:29 GMT

#1596

On September 21 2011 20:28 Rayansaki wrote:
Huk has a realistic chance of beating MMA, just hope he doesn't get 2nd place and gets matched against Nestea McNeverLost2Protoss

Nestea lost in the all-star match when they played before the GSL finals.

Madera

Sweden2672 Posts

September 21 2011 11:29 GMT

#1597

Huk fighting~

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

September 21 2011 11:29 GMT

#1598

On September 21 2011 20:22 roymarthyup wrote:

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On September 21 2011 20:01 roymarthyup wrote:

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On September 21 2011 19:48 roymarthyup wrote:
NADA WOULD HAVE WON if he split his thors

i wouldnt consider nesteas play "unbeatable". nada would have simply won if he didnt make a mistake

TvZ is very unforgivable make 1 mistake you lose. for zerg the real only "mistake" they can make is attacking into a line of sieged tanks before they have broodlords,

for terran the mistakes they can make is nut unclumping units vs banelings and attacking banelings without sieging ur tanks

no actually he wouldn't have won that game even if he survived that. As long as nestea gets rid of the helions his production is so good that he can pump out a billion lings before the thors actually pose a threat to one of his expansions and he just kills him anyway.

wrong. all those banelings would have killed maybe 5 thors if nada had not clumped them up, and the hellions can run back to be safe and kill lings

nestea would have lost that game if nada had split his thors.

dont expect to counter thors with banelings if the terran is smart and splits his army apart. just warning you zergs out there if you expect to counter thor builds with banelings your going to be depressed when you meet a good terran

So he's gonna have to micro his thors INCREDIBLY well ALL the way across the map? Nestea did a flank, no helion was ever going to survive that. Did you see the creep spread? Nestea had so much room to work with it was ridiculous and Nada still had an ocean to go across to actually do anything to nestea. You can't instant split like marine tank.

the creep spread is meaningless. thors will be spread pre-fight. hellions outrun banelings on creep

its not hard to micro thors. split them apart in a checkerboard formation, a-move them, then press hold position if you want to stop in a location (instead of having all thors bunching up together), and continue. if the enemy engages your thors you attackmove then if you see banelings coming make the back thors move back slightly and you will have a very nice thor-spread

it is NOT have to spread thors vs banelings as you attack-move across the map. its very easy micro to be honest. . very easy micro

the proper thor splitting that would have allowed nada to win that game is very easy micro. i dont know why he didnt do it, probably was stressed and concentrating elsewhere on the map but seriously the micro is so easy it only takes a little bit attention to make it happen

Wtf? Do you even understand how big belshir beach is? That type of micro takes a ton of APM with that many thors trying to get across that map and because you have to wait for the thors to reposition spread out that just means it takes that much longer. If nestea wanted to he could do devastating counterattacks, and tech up to broodlords.

He had like over 10 thors, and EVEN if like 7 of them survived it DOESN'T matter as long as he kills off a good number of the helions because the ling reinforcements will destroy the thors easily.

that type of micro is VERY easy and takes MINIMAL amount of APM

all you do is spread the thors a bit, then A-MOVE to a location far across the map. then scan for banelings and start macroing then press "s" for your thor group which stops them and KEEPS THEM SPLIT

now your thors are STILL SPLIT and you can a-move them again across the map and they STAY IN FORMATION then you can macro more and press S when you want to stop

then, when your enemy engages you, your thors are ALREADY SPLIT so you attack-move and select a couple thors in the back and move them back slightly and that will give you a great thor spread

it is EASY to micro thors and split them across the entire map

im not saying nada is bad, he had his reasons he didnt perform that micro, however

im just letting zergs out there know, nestea would have lost that game if nada didnt make that mistake. i saw no mistakes made by nestea, but a huge engagement mistake by nada

long story short dont expect to counter thors with banelings if you are fighting a terran thats as good as you

Dude, in the end it just DOESN'T MATTER. Nestea probably didn't even come out cost efficiently even though the thors were clumped because he had a billion times better economy and production. The game isn't just about army vs. army and 1 engagement. Nestea would have lost that engagement if nada positioned better, but he wouldn't have lost that game. Seriously, every thor could have survived but as long as 10 helions aren't hanging around there's nothing to protect the thors from mass speedling.

in the end it does matter because nestea would have lost that game if nada didnt make the mistake

zerg normally has more macro. terran must win battles very cost efficiently to win the game, and terran normally has the ability to do it

nestea probably WASNT efficient in his army trade, but he was efficient ENOUGH to let him win

if nada didnt make the mistake, he would have won the battle with much less losses and he would have been able to kill nestea right there definitely

nestea would have lost the GAME if nada split his thors properly, not just the engagement. nada was maxed with hellion/thor and nestea didnt have NP or broodlords anytime soon

if nada didnt make the mistake he could have won the battle and killed nesteas entire army and lost only a fraction of his and coulda pushed and won right there with reinforcing thors

In the amount of time nada actually reaches one of nestea's expansions nestea would have been remaxed on lings. No one has good enough micro to keep those helions alive against that many banelings and when you're on creep they're gonna get surrounded by lings if they even try to splash them.

I've said this like a million times and what you've said has no bearing on the situation so I'm not gonna argue past this point.

Viperzero

Australia70 Posts

September 21 2011 11:29 GMT

#1599

Love the SS siberia's