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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 20 2011 19:34 GMT
#81
On September 21 2011 04:21 VPCursed wrote:
im fucking disgusted ur going to have a tourney that requires a buy in on maps that are absurdly imbalanced.


You're going to just slander a map like that without providing any evidence that they're actually imbalanced?


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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
September 20 2011 19:49 GMT
#82
I think the maps are fine but the pool is so big, and with all of them being so unfamiliar it's a lot to ask of the players. Maybe cut the pool in half or something
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 20 2011 19:51 GMT
#83
On September 21 2011 04:33 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 03:53 Boardin wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:46 Xeris wrote:
On September 20 2011 08:39 desrow wrote:
xeris ive started to like you recently so this is nothing personal but this is fucking disgusting there's no way im playing a qualifier with 0 ladder maps/gsl map this is fucking nonsense

i dont see any other player learning 9 new maps. not when they are not in any other tournament


That's fine, then a player who wants to be in the NASL will take the time to play a few games on them before the tournament. Some of these maps will be in Season 3 of NASL.



If you aren't even sure which you will be.using why make them learn them. Test the maps before the tourney not use the tourney to beta test


This tournament is partially to serve as a more official testing ground for these maps. But I'd like to also point out that several of them have won the "map of the month" award and are quite solid.

this is not a good enough excuse. there's an incentive's for players in the season to play/practice on those. for us in the qualifier its plain out non sense
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 20 2011 19:51 GMT
#84
I think the discussion is moot because as of now everyone who signed up is automatically in the next round anyways :D
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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 20 2011 19:51 GMT
#85
On September 21 2011 04:49 floor exercise wrote:
I think the maps are fine but the pool is so big, and with all of them being so unfamiliar it's a lot to ask of the players. Maybe cut the pool in half or something

adding a 2-3 maps would of been fine, an entire map pool is disgusting
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 20 2011 19:52 GMT
#86
On September 21 2011 04:51 desrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 04:33 Xeris wrote:
On September 21 2011 03:53 Boardin wrote:
On September 20 2011 10:46 Xeris wrote:
On September 20 2011 08:39 desrow wrote:
xeris ive started to like you recently so this is nothing personal but this is fucking disgusting there's no way im playing a qualifier with 0 ladder maps/gsl map this is fucking nonsense

i dont see any other player learning 9 new maps. not when they are not in any other tournament


That's fine, then a player who wants to be in the NASL will take the time to play a few games on them before the tournament. Some of these maps will be in Season 3 of NASL.



If you aren't even sure which you will be.using why make them learn them. Test the maps before the tourney not use the tourney to beta test


This tournament is partially to serve as a more official testing ground for these maps. But I'd like to also point out that several of them have won the "map of the month" award and are quite solid.

this is not a good enough excuse. there's an incentive's for players in the season to play/practice on those. for us in the qualifier its plain out non sense


Not really? In fact you'll have an advantage over current NASL players if you qualify since you'll have already practiced on them
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Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
September 20 2011 19:57 GMT
#87
Fuck yes! Finally a bigger organisation decides to include the TPW maps, boostes my personal simpathy for NASL a lot !
§1: Die Units des Hasu sind unantastbar.
Enhancer_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada320 Posts
September 20 2011 19:59 GMT
#88
On September 20 2011 08:59 desrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 08:55 Probe1 wrote:
On September 19 2011 02:21 Barrin wrote:
*fails miserably at containing excitement*
I AM VERY HAPPY YOU ARE CHOOSING TO USE (THESE) COMMUNITY-MADE MAPS!!!

I am absolutely positive that as a whole this was a wise move. While not flawless, these are some of the best maps the foreigner community has come up with in the past few months. I'm actually not a fan of one of them in particular (don't wanna name a name tho ^^):X but for the most part I am sure that at least a few of these maps will become highly regarded in the not-so-distant future.

Barrin got it right. Playing the same old maps ~~ boring and repetitive. If the NASL is putting part of its reputation on the balance of these maps then potential competitors should stop posting and start practicing on them.

I like this choice, I like these maps and I will watch the NASL open bracket with more excitement than the NASL!

ok congrats on having an opinion now are you a competitor ? are you putting your money and time on the line ?

thank you

Are you putting your money or time on the line for this tournament?

Clearly not, so what's the problem?
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 20:12:44
September 20 2011 20:11 GMT
#89
On September 21 2011 04:59 Enhancer_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 08:59 desrow wrote:
On September 20 2011 08:55 Probe1 wrote:
On September 19 2011 02:21 Barrin wrote:
*fails miserably at containing excitement*
I AM VERY HAPPY YOU ARE CHOOSING TO USE (THESE) COMMUNITY-MADE MAPS!!!

I am absolutely positive that as a whole this was a wise move. While not flawless, these are some of the best maps the foreigner community has come up with in the past few months. I'm actually not a fan of one of them in particular (don't wanna name a name tho ^^):X but for the most part I am sure that at least a few of these maps will become highly regarded in the not-so-distant future.

Barrin got it right. Playing the same old maps ~~ boring and repetitive. If the NASL is putting part of its reputation on the balance of these maps then potential competitors should stop posting and start practicing on them.

I like this choice, I like these maps and I will watch the NASL open bracket with more excitement than the NASL!

ok congrats on having an opinion now are you a competitor ? are you putting your money and time on the line ?

thank you

Are you putting your money or time on the line for this tournament?

Clearly not, so what's the problem?


I clearly would sign up to both of those if xeris wasn't crazy with the new maps and yea i would put my time and money on the line.

I know it's cool be a hipster and want new maps but if you add a fuck ton of new maps it's really hard for the competitors, if u add a few maps then it's less agressive/ alot better
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 20 2011 20:16 GMT
#90
On September 21 2011 05:11 desrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 04:59 Enhancer_ wrote:
On September 20 2011 08:59 desrow wrote:
On September 20 2011 08:55 Probe1 wrote:
On September 19 2011 02:21 Barrin wrote:
*fails miserably at containing excitement*
I AM VERY HAPPY YOU ARE CHOOSING TO USE (THESE) COMMUNITY-MADE MAPS!!!

I am absolutely positive that as a whole this was a wise move. While not flawless, these are some of the best maps the foreigner community has come up with in the past few months. I'm actually not a fan of one of them in particular (don't wanna name a name tho ^^):X but for the most part I am sure that at least a few of these maps will become highly regarded in the not-so-distant future.

Barrin got it right. Playing the same old maps ~~ boring and repetitive. If the NASL is putting part of its reputation on the balance of these maps then potential competitors should stop posting and start practicing on them.

I like this choice, I like these maps and I will watch the NASL open bracket with more excitement than the NASL!

ok congrats on having an opinion now are you a competitor ? are you putting your money and time on the line ?

thank you

Are you putting your money or time on the line for this tournament?

Clearly not, so what's the problem?


I clearly would sign up to both of those if xeris wasn't crazy with the new maps and yea i would put my time and money on the line.

I know it's cool be a hipster and want new maps but if you add a fuck ton of new maps it's really hard for the competitors, if u add a few maps then it's less agressive/ alot better


You'll never know until you give them a chance.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Enhancer_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada320 Posts
September 20 2011 20:20 GMT
#91
On September 21 2011 05:11 desrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 04:59 Enhancer_ wrote:
On September 20 2011 08:59 desrow wrote:
On September 20 2011 08:55 Probe1 wrote:
On September 19 2011 02:21 Barrin wrote:
*fails miserably at containing excitement*
I AM VERY HAPPY YOU ARE CHOOSING TO USE (THESE) COMMUNITY-MADE MAPS!!!

I am absolutely positive that as a whole this was a wise move. While not flawless, these are some of the best maps the foreigner community has come up with in the past few months. I'm actually not a fan of one of them in particular (don't wanna name a name tho ^^):X but for the most part I am sure that at least a few of these maps will become highly regarded in the not-so-distant future.

Barrin got it right. Playing the same old maps ~~ boring and repetitive. If the NASL is putting part of its reputation on the balance of these maps then potential competitors should stop posting and start practicing on them.

I like this choice, I like these maps and I will watch the NASL open bracket with more excitement than the NASL!

ok congrats on having an opinion now are you a competitor ? are you putting your money and time on the line ?

thank you

Are you putting your money or time on the line for this tournament?

Clearly not, so what's the problem?


I clearly would sign up to both of those if xeris wasn't crazy with the new maps and my time.

Interesting. So you're annoyed that the few tournaments that Xeris facilitates (of the hundreds that exist) don't cater to what you want.

I see it more as a fun tournament that allows those who failed to qualify (or didn't participate) for S2 another chance at making it in while also having great potential in its prizes, especially since you can qualify for S3 through this.
Desert Fox
Profile Joined August 2011
United States352 Posts
September 20 2011 20:31 GMT
#92
Desrow is being nasty about it. Voicing an opinion does not have to include bitterness. And while it is excellent to see good players go head to head on maps they've executed thousands of games on, it can be excellent to see them play on maps they have not figured out. It tests an entirely different skill: adaptability.

Are they able to learn the map pool quick enough? Or is their skill set solely based on rote memorization from a million games played on xel'naga caverns? Definitely not a bad thing. Definitely not a need for name-calling or toeing the line between being an asshole and a contrarian.
And on the pedestal these words appear -- "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 20 2011 20:36 GMT
#93
There's no point debating with people who are not competitors/play in these qualifiers. I hope other notable players rise and complain about this nonsense.
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Desert Fox
Profile Joined August 2011
United States352 Posts
September 20 2011 20:44 GMT
#94
There is a point and a very valuable one. You lost normal people with the words crazy, disgusting and saying fuck repeatedly to an individual who is doing this community and esports a favor by hosting well-prized tournaments. I would let real competitors speak up as well if I couldn't avoid being a jerk in a thread.
And on the pedestal these words appear -- "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
September 20 2011 20:48 GMT
#95
Xeris, will all the same TPW maps be used in the "Semi-Open" Tourney?
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 21 2011 14:54 GMT
#96
On September 21 2011 05:48 Hrrrrm wrote:
Xeris, will all the same TPW maps be used in the "Semi-Open" Tourney?


Some of them definitely will be. Perhaps not all of them.
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
September 21 2011 15:00 GMT
#97
Not one desert/badlands/redsand map? Why are mapmakers so averse to anything that isn't blue/green/black? WHY? Starcraft is desert too!
Apoo
Profile Joined January 2011
413 Posts
September 21 2011 15:48 GMT
#98
YES!!! Thank you so very much NASL!

The new Map Pool will boost the Tournement for me
I gonna watch it definetly, NASL improved so much in season 2 overall!
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 16:32:16
September 21 2011 16:31 GMT
#99
Just think of the maps as a way to give you a big advantage over the Koreans who probably won't have time to play on the maps very much. I wonder if NASL should drop the 10$ charge so they can get more people willing to give the maps a shot and get more data on them.

It would be so much easier to learn them quickly if blizzard let NASL (and other big tournaments) create a NASL map pool with matchmaking based on skill that you could play on instead of the blizzard map pool. Put a map pool selector under race on the front page and enough people should play on it that you could always find a match.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 21 2011 16:41 GMT
#100
On September 22 2011 01:31 coolcor wrote:
Just think of the maps as a way to give you a big advantage over the Koreans who probably won't have time to play on the maps very much. I wonder if NASL should drop the 10$ charge so they can get more people willing to give the maps a shot and get more data on them.

It would be so much easier to learn them quickly if blizzard let NASL (and other big tournaments) create a NASL map pool with matchmaking based on skill that you could play on instead of the blizzard map pool. Put a map pool selector under race on the front page and enough people should play on it that you could always find a match.


The buy in is in place so that only people who are serious about competing will do it. If that means we'll have a 16 player tournament for 8 qualifying spots, I'd rather have that than have 100 people sign up and only 30 actually show.
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