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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
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MosART
United States1899 Posts
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:23 Piledriver wrote: Thats the standard IM zerg build, make evo chamber between 6:30 (for 3 gate expand) or around 7 minutes for forge expand into spore crawlers. Nothing special, once again lack of protoss harass capabilities in full display. We're talking about a Code A winner, MLG runner up and Code S runner up vs a guy who just made it into Code A for the first time. Not a good example of imbalance. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:23 Phayt wrote: What were the overall results tonight? I somehow managed to miss everything but Hero losing, lol MMA 2-0 Boxer MVP 2-0 Puma Bomber 2-0 Coca Losira 2-0 Hero | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:23 oogieogie wrote: How can the P get back in this game? DTs The zerg just knew that so he put down a evo chamber, no way he would get lair, and then just build some spores/spines to prepare. Could the P have used a huge gateway army and just killed the gold or something because idk if that would even work since Z could build so many units. I don't think a Zerg of Losira's level would lose to a huge gateway army with that opening unless P's control was like beyond stellar. At least this map is horrid for zerg vs T so it evens out ^^. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:24 Blasphemi wrote: We're talking about a Code A winner, MLG runner up and Code S runner up vs a guy who just made it into Code A for the first time. Not a good example of imbalance. Sad thing is HerO is Top 5 Protoss in the world right now. | ||
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AWakefield
Canada420 Posts
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:24 Blasphemi wrote: We're talking about a Code A winner, MLG runner up and Code S runner up vs a guy who just made it into Code A for the first time. Not a good example of imbalance. So please enlighten how the world's best protoss could have handled it? Hero supposedly has the best PvZ among all tosses, but he gets rolled without even being close. | ||
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:24 Blasphemi wrote: We're talking about a Code A winner, MLG runner up and Code S runner up vs a guy who just made it into Code A for the first time. Not a good example of imbalance. Wait, you honestly think a different Protoss player could have won this game? Although, he could've thrown down 2 Stargates and hoped the Zerg would never scout. Worked for JYP against Jookto. | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:23 oogieogie wrote: How can the P get back in this game? DTs The zerg just knew that so he put down a evo chamber, no way he would get lair, and then just build some spores/spines to prepare. Could the P have used a huge gateway army and just killed the gold or something because idk if that would even work since Z could build so many units. You aren't forced to forge expand every game. Part of the reason Zerg dominates is because Protoss's forge expands are too predictable and don't allow you to do anything to Zerg. Zergs know this and get a massive econ lead before unit massing to deny the third or Protoss two base push. | ||
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Phayt
Canada346 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:25 VirgilSC2 wrote: Sad thing is HerO is Top 5 Protoss in the world right now. I'm not sure about that. HerO is quite good, but he doesn't really have too much in terms of results yet. He's just kinda gained a huge amount of exposure since joining liquid. Then again, it's hard to say who ARE the top 5 right now. | ||
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dejahu
United States83 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:21 Oboeman wrote: no losira did not look like july. July would do baneling bust off one base. Hero looked like inca. Why? Because he did a coin flip build vs a build that gives you a HUGE..... advantage with little to no risk? | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:25 Alpino wrote: I don't think a Zerg of Losira's level would lose to a huge gateway army with that opening unless P's control was like beyond stellar. At least this map is horrid for zerg vs T so it evens out ^^. Protoss only has 2 options in early game is stargate or dt. So eitherway it's just so easy to blindly put down 1-2 sporecrawlers. Not hurt at all right? That's the problem with protoss early harassment right now. | ||
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:27 Phayt wrote: I'm not sure about that. HerO is quite good, but he doesn't really have too much in terms of results yet. He's just kinda gained a huge amount of exposure since joining liquid. Then again, it's hard to say who ARE the top 5 right now. Well he is one of the 5 protoss left in gsl so yes you kind of can. | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:26 Piledriver wrote: So please enlighten how the world's best protoss could have handled it? Hero supposedly has the best PvZ among all tosses, but he gets rolled without even being close. I don't play Protoss and I'm not anywhere near his level. I just think it's absurd to talk about imbalance in a match where the Zerg is just a far better player. I would expect Losira to destroy Hero with any strategy, he's a much better player. For what it's worth I actually consider Protoss underpowered right now, but this is a terrible example to prove it. | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
 these matches were fun but not terribly exciting. wanted to see more with Puma v MVP | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:23 VirgilSC2 wrote: Gold Bases need some Dustin Browder-ing. I feel gold bases simply need to be removed from the game, or at the very least tournaments need to stop using them. | ||
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