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On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 14:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote:
gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments?
WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs.
Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place.
The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on.
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On September 09 2011 15:02 Parapa wrote:
haha if this first our new tournament AOL works well! then it will happen again! and we can invite more players whom you want! support us please!
I will make it better and spread e-sports to all the world!
Something tells me you want us to BUY SOME SHIRTS :D
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If they're gonna pick players on popularity because they're old school like July and Boxer they might as well replace MMA with NaDa. Also as far as good protoss, they should replace Trickster with Puzzle.
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Dunno why Trickster and Naniwa are there.. I guess Naniwa makes sense because hes a foreign fan favorite but Trickster's been riding out his popularity since the BETA and hasn't proven anything since. Its not like there aren't other Protoss players who have produced results, HongUn, (and I guess Genius). Both have better results than Trickster.
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Those groups just smell of nestea vs mvp final
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On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote:
With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch".
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up.
I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM.
Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive.
Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament..
If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments...
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Dawww..., the only season I haven't bought a pass for was Season 1.
This seems interesting though, I'll buy a pass. Not sure about GSL October though ; /
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MMA's weakest matchup is TvP from what I remember, so MC still has a shot
I see
MMA>Nestea
MC> MMA
Nestea>MC
Each player is 1:1... How does that work? If they each play each other again and the same score happens...
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Wow, dang I can't watch it since it's not free... maybe when it becomes free someday heh
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Is it just me or does group D seem particularly weak? I love July, BoxeR, and Nani as much or more than the next guy, and while they're great players, the rest of the lineup (Trickster notwithstanding) seems to be stronger. I'm pumped to watch them play, but I'd not have put that particular group together.
Then again, they are all on about the same level (with July fairly ahead of the other two, but not so much so as to stomp them), so it will produce great games in the group stage. It just seems whoever makes it out of that group isn't making it through the semi's.
Would have loved to see Nada in, shame they only had room for 4 Terrans.
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On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 14:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote:
gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on.
MLG is also doing "just fine" because they have a service in which people pay money. If nobody paid money for MLG passes, they would be in deep shit real quick. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly believe that paying money for a tournament is something that doesn't have a positive effect.
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On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 14:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote:
gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on.
I would be remiss if I didn't mention the TOTALLY FREE World Championship tournament they held as well as all the free streams they've shown over the past year. I don't see a 6 day, short form tournament with a stacked line up being a particularly huge issue in the long run.
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Woot, sweet lineup. And free ticket, awsome! ^_^
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On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 14:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote:
gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on.
It's ONE SMALL tournament. They aren't getting rid of their normal process, you know, the free content that's on 6 days a week. Instead of them "punishing" you for not paying, maybe they're trying to reward loyal customers and *gasp* make a few bucks? Hopes and dreams don't pay the rent.
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On September 09 2011 15:10 thepeonwhocould wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote:
With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch".
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up.
I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive. Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament.. If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments...
I bet if everyone looked at the movies they've gone to the cinema to see they'd realise that this is amazing value. I've seen some horrible movies this year that cost more than the ticket for this season. I happen to think this is great value. I paid more to see The Mechanic, and it was terrible.
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5USDS? thats like 4.80AUD! Hell yeah!
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On September 09 2011 15:12 Skipton wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 14:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote:
gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on. MLG is also doing "just fine" because they have a service in which people pay money. If nobody paid money for MLG passes, they would be in deep shit real quick. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly believe that paying money for a tournament is something that doesn't have a positive effect.
Obviously. And they also have sponsors and advertisements. And again, did I say that paying money doesn't yield positive effect? No. If a tournament provides a free stream and you can afford and want to buy the HQ that's great. Personally, I choose to support by watching advertisements.
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Great tournament , maybe add 4 more players for a total of 4 players in each group .
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People seem to forget that MLG charges at least $20 to view in person, while GOM lets you into their Mokdong Studio for free.
MLG has much more income from sponsors due to having other games on their lineup, while GOM does not.
Look at NASL, adding HoN to bring in more viewers/money.
GOM is just taking a different path, charging a small amount/rewarding their loyal fans. I for one don't mind shelling out a few $$$ a month for semi-HQ Starcraft, amazing VoDs, and supporting the scene. I bought a NASL Season 2 subscription too, because I <3 e-Sports, and I <3 Starcraft 2.
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On September 09 2011 15:16 Gentso wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:12 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 14:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote:
gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on. MLG is also doing "just fine" because they have a service in which people pay money. If nobody paid money for MLG passes, they would be in deep shit real quick. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly believe that paying money for a tournament is something that doesn't have a positive effect. Obviously. And they also have sponsors and advertisements. And again, did I say that paying money doesn't yield positive effect? No. If a tournament provides a free stream and you can afford and want to buy the HQ that's great. Personally, I choose to support by watching advertisements.
By watching advertisements, you mean muting the stream and watching the other one right?
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