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On September 09 2011 15:09 movac wrote:
If they're gonna pick players on popularity because they're old school like July and Boxer they might as well replace MMA with NaDa. Also as far as good protoss, they should replace Trickster with Puzzle.
July's not simply old school, he's also the most successful Zerg in GSL after Nestea.
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On September 09 2011 15:10 thepeonwhocould wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote:
With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch".
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up.
I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive. Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament.. If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments...
I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS.
Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then
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On September 09 2011 15:16 Gentso wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:12 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 14:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote:
gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on. MLG is also doing "just fine" because they have a service in which people pay money. If nobody paid money for MLG passes, they would be in deep shit real quick. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly believe that paying money for a tournament is something that doesn't have a positive effect. Obviously. And they also have sponsors and advertisements. And again, did I say that paying money doesn't yield positive effect? No. If a tournament provides a free stream and you can afford and want to buy the HQ that's great. Personally, I choose to support by watching advertisements.
"A step backwards" implies a negative effect. If GOM wants to experiment with something new here by having a CHEAP paid only stream, than they clearly have the right to do so.
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i predict mvp vs. nestea finals... so heck yeah i'm buying ticket!
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On September 09 2011 15:18 VirgilSC2 wrote:
People seem to forget that MLG charges at least $20 to view in person, while GOM lets you into their Mokdong Studio for free.
MLG has much more income from sponsors due to having other games on their lineup, while GOM does not.
Look at NASL, adding HoN to bring in more viewers/money.
GOM is just taking a different path, charging a small amount/rewarding their loyal fans. I for one don't mind shelling out a few $$$ a month for semi-HQ Starcraft, amazing VoDs, and supporting the scene. I bought a NASL Season 2 subscription too, because I <3 e-Sports, and I <3 Starcraft 2.
Not to mention the free pizza, drinks, burgers etc that they routinely hand out to their supporters and the free finals events they hold in large (and not free) locations around South Korea.
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On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 14:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote:
gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on.
Then what do you say to MLG charging for spectator passes when GOM doesn't.
Anyways, GOM has free live streams for the GSTL and GSL. It shouldn't be such a negative thing to support them a little if you are able. MLG has a ton more sponsors anyways, and they only have to broadcast for a single weekend compared to GOM which broadcast all month long.
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That will be a sick weekend with DH Valencia and AOL on the same day!
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hmm group a is way too stacked. MMA wins group b or d pretty much guaranteed if you replace him with any of their 3 players.
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On September 09 2011 15:19 Suigentoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:10 thepeonwhocould wrote:On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote:
With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch".
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up.
I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive. Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament.. If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments... I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS. Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then
I don't think anybody actually gives a shit that you made a new account to tell people that you can download cool HD Vods for free, when clearly you're just upset because you don't want to pay 5 fucking dollars.
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This is like the all star match in NBA, so sick!
go DRG go!
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FINALLY, there's gonna be a Nestea vs MC match. Been waiting for it for ages...
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On September 09 2011 15:19 Suigentoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:10 thepeonwhocould wrote:On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote:
With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch".
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up.
I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive. Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament.. If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments... I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS. Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then
GOM Player now has Mac support, has had it for a while now. (don't understand why you can't open GOM stream links from Firefox in Mac, you have to use Safari but just a minor inconvenience)
Also, you're ruining ESPORTS
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No free stream  this is seriously printing money for GOM, at least it's cheap
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On September 09 2011 15:19 Suigentoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:10 thepeonwhocould wrote:On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote:
With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch".
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up.
I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive. Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament.. If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments... I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS. Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then
I love it that something as small and insignificant as the Gom Player is making you so angry. Also, as soon as someone disagrees with you and has a different opinion to yours they become "fanboys" instead of simply being allowed to disagree with you, that's just disrespectful. QQ
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On September 09 2011 15:22 firehand101 wrote:
This is like the all star match in NBA, so sick!
go DRG go!
Except that the players are going at it 100% and really care about the results of the games...
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On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote:
IMNesTea
SlayerS_BoxeR
oGsMC
IMLosirA
IMMvp
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MVPDongRaeGu
SlayerS_MMA
Dignitas.NaNiwa
StarTaleJuly
MarineKingPrime.WE
StarTale_TricKsteR
One of these does not belong...
I'm pretty sure NaNiwa doesn't belong there either.. we'll have to see ^^
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FUCK YEAH!!!!
i'm so excited about this.
glad to see GOM is throwing new stuff on the way, it was getting to stagnant.
edit: i agree with what some ppl said.
i think NaDa deserves it more than some other people.. and Yes I want Puzzle rather than Trickster T.T
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On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote:
With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch".
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up.
I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM.
What a way to make a statement, making a new TL account just to post and flame GOM.
I'm cheap bastard who hasn't paid for any of the GSL vods at all, just watching the free SQ stream, but I don't go around making new accounts on a forum just to attempt to flame GOM for something they have the right to control.
I'm not happy that this event isn't free but hey, I'm the one who isn't prepared to shell out money to watch my favorite players play. This is GOM's tournament, they run it, its their money, they decide what to do with it. I have a right to dislike how it will be run but being a dick isn't helping esports.
Thanks for being the cancer of esports Suigentoo.
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Mr chae I love you
Should be sick :D
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