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On September 09 2011 15:33 Fionn wrote: Am I the only who thought this was going to be a new GOM League of Legends tournament?
I thought so as well when I first saw the title. But hey, it's EVEN BETTER than I expected.
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On September 09 2011 14:22 unoriginalname wrote:Bah, season 1 is the only ticket I haven't bought and after the free GSL weekend I've no reason to see the games again. Group A looks super stacked, hopefully NesTea has worked on his ZvT so he can beat MMA's insane aggression. NaNiWa looks to have a relatively easy group, so who knows, perhaps a foreigner can advance to the play-offs. Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote: StarTale_TricKsteR One of these does not belong... I was thinking the same. Well one bad egg in a fantastic line-up can be forgiven. Though I wish Tastosis was casting. After hearing Moletrap and DOA cast Code S players, it really grates on your nerves that they don't seem to be as hype about their play as Artosis, especially concerning NesTea. NOOOO TRICKSTER IS AWESOME
the real protoss innovator
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so this is pretty obvius Mr Chae wants a good final...
wel... i dont think that is going to happen =(
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On September 09 2011 15:33 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote: So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What?
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me.
And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme. That's your choice and you'll be missing out on some hopefully amazing matches. We're not "idiots eating it up" we're fans and supporters of what GOM is doing in Korea. Combine this with their recent sponsorship of ESV.tv (formerly icCup) and I guess you could say it will balance everything out. Now the stakes in the ESV Monthly Final will be that much higher, and free (not to mention Orb is a great caster) for fans who only watch free events, meanwhile the Arena of Legends balances out the "new blood" of the ESV Monthlies and "Code B" by having a heated short-term tournament for the "Legends" of Starcraft 2. I don't see why so many people are mad at GOM for charging for this event, when a) it's not even a large sum of money, and b) There's no way you WON'T get your moneys worth from this.
I think people are missing that the post you quoted is actually a troll/joke post. If you re-read it carefully you'll see that I hope.
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Who voted for Trickster >,> Slacker who drinks more than he practices getting free rides to these tourneys just to get his ass kicked lol. He sucked at MLG, he'll suck here.
Kinda funny seeing "AOL" being used... funny that anyone can get away with using it now and it not be a big deal, 10+ years ago no way. I remember when everyone that had a computer had America Online.. now no one does lol, man how times have changed.
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group A and C
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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On September 09 2011 15:36 NasKe_ wrote: so this is pretty obvius Mr Chae wants a good final...
wel... i dont think that is going to happen =(
Yeah! MKP! Boxer! MVP! MMA for top 4!
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Nestea and MC in the Same group its a sad day to be a protoss MC fighting.
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Also Trickster is weird. I can tell that most were chosen due to the GOM All-Star voting (plus Naniwa), but Trickster is the weird one. I'm gonna guess that they needed more protoss and he beat out HongUn in the voting?
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On September 09 2011 15:37 darkest44 wrote: Who voted for Trickster >,> Slacker who drink more than they practice getting free rides to these tourneys just to get his ass kicked is kinda annoying. He sucked at MLG, he'll suck here.
No one voted for Trickster. The fan vote was for the All-Star match this weekend before the Code S final.
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There are so many more deserving Protoss than Trickster. If the criteria for Legend is skill then Puzzle and Genius are better, if it is results then Hongun, san and Inca have done more, if it's popularity Alicia has got him beat.
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At first i loved it then i saw that it is only available to premium ticket holders...but hell yes, this is worth more than 3,50€ or something like that.
mfg banana
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On September 09 2011 15:36 Frogsox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:33 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote: So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What?
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me.
And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme. That's your choice and you'll be missing out on some hopefully amazing matches. We're not "idiots eating it up" we're fans and supporters of what GOM is doing in Korea. Combine this with their recent sponsorship of ESV.tv (formerly icCup) and I guess you could say it will balance everything out. Now the stakes in the ESV Monthly Final will be that much higher, and free (not to mention Orb is a great caster) for fans who only watch free events, meanwhile the Arena of Legends balances out the "new blood" of the ESV Monthlies and "Code B" by having a heated short-term tournament for the "Legends" of Starcraft 2. I don't see why so many people are mad at GOM for charging for this event, when a) it's not even a large sum of money, and b) There's no way you WON'T get your moneys worth from this. I think people are missing that the post you quoted is actually a troll/joke post. If you re-read it carefully you'll see that I hope. Oh wow, I see that now, I'm tired, it's late, and I'm watching IPL, give me a break!
Plus, I still stand by everything I said.
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On September 09 2011 15:38 Frogsox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:37 darkest44 wrote: Who voted for Trickster >,> Slacker who drink more than they practice getting free rides to these tourneys just to get his ass kicked is kinda annoying. He sucked at MLG, he'll suck here. No one voted for Trickster. The fan vote was for the All-Star match this weekend before the Code S final.
Oh, list looked pretty similar between the two.
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I dont get why Trickster and Naniwa in there but sounds like a cool tournament
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On September 09 2011 15:40 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:36 Frogsox wrote:On September 09 2011 15:33 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote: So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What?
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me.
And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme. That's your choice and you'll be missing out on some hopefully amazing matches. We're not "idiots eating it up" we're fans and supporters of what GOM is doing in Korea. Combine this with their recent sponsorship of ESV.tv (formerly icCup) and I guess you could say it will balance everything out. Now the stakes in the ESV Monthly Final will be that much higher, and free (not to mention Orb is a great caster) for fans who only watch free events, meanwhile the Arena of Legends balances out the "new blood" of the ESV Monthlies and "Code B" by having a heated short-term tournament for the "Legends" of Starcraft 2. I don't see why so many people are mad at GOM for charging for this event, when a) it's not even a large sum of money, and b) There's no way you WON'T get your moneys worth from this. I think people are missing that the post you quoted is actually a troll/joke post. If you re-read it carefully you'll see that I hope. Oh wow, I see that now, I'm tired, it's late, and I'm watching IPL, give me a break! Plus, I still stand by everything I said.
I'm with you. Enjoy your IPL! And keep fighting the good fight and supporting an Esports world where people aren't all cheap.
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On September 09 2011 15:33 Biane wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:19 Suigentoo wrote:On September 09 2011 15:10 thepeonwhocould wrote:On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote: With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch".
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up.
I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive. Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament.. If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments... I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS. Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then Well that just threw all your logic out the window, nevermind about blind fanboy-ism, talk about doing something that is actually hurting esports. Or maybe you don't seem to see this similar as to downloading music/movies, not that everyone on the internet is a goody-two-shoes who has ever done anything that is illegal.....have they? You even have the guts to proclaim it.
GOM refuse to cater the free market and I'm the one hurting "esports". Sure, good job. I guess your shit is better than mine because you pay.
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On September 09 2011 15:27 ragealot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:18 theBizness wrote:On September 09 2011 15:16 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 15:12 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 14:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote: gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on. MLG is also doing "just fine" because they have a service in which people pay money. If nobody paid money for MLG passes, they would be in deep shit real quick. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly believe that paying money for a tournament is something that doesn't have a positive effect. Obviously. And they also have sponsors and advertisements. And again, did I say that paying money doesn't yield positive effect? No. If a tournament provides a free stream and you can afford and want to buy the HQ that's great. Personally, I choose to support by watching advertisements. By watching advertisements, you mean muting the stream and watching the other one right? He doesn't even want to shell out money to see/support something he loves, what are the chances he'll buy the sponsor's product? If you are going to freeload, at least be quiet about it.
FREELOADING? You're all ridiculous and too strung up in the entire 'support esports' thing its actually sort of sickening. Remember what Geoff said a million times during the NASL? Something like, "The fact that you're watching is supporting us a great deal." I said what I have to say, and it's obvious that there's no point saying anymore on team liquid in this regard. You guys not minding to pay and posting here isn't a coincidence.
I like doing things like buying jerseys, team liquid shirts, and doritos. I'm going to be attending MLG as well for the experience.
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On September 09 2011 15:40 darkest44 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:38 Frogsox wrote:On September 09 2011 15:37 darkest44 wrote: Who voted for Trickster >,> Slacker who drink more than they practice getting free rides to these tourneys just to get his ass kicked is kinda annoying. He sucked at MLG, he'll suck here. No one voted for Trickster. The fan vote was for the All-Star match this weekend before the Code S final. Oh, list looked pretty similar between the two.
That's true. However, that's probably just as much to do with the fact that people voted for the best/most popular players in the game. I wouldn't rule out the votes influencing the invites, I guess.
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On September 09 2011 15:40 MooMooMugi wrote: I dont get why Trickster and Naniwa in there but sounds like a cool tournament Naniwa is there you keep the foreigners interested. No body knows wtf trickster is doing there but at least we dont have to watch TvT intially.
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