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On September 09 2011 15:12 ShootingStars wrote:
Wow, dang I can't watch it since it's not free... maybe when it becomes free someday heh
Which it won't. Your joking right $5 is pretty much free considering the amount of content. Compared to other PPV events in other sports that cost $45+. GomTV wouldn't be sustainable with just ads at this point. It might be possible for destiny to survive from free streaming with ads but not the infrastructure that Gom needs.
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So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What?
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me.
And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme.
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On September 09 2011 15:18 theBizness wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:16 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 15:12 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 15:08 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 15:00 Skipton wrote:On September 09 2011 14:57 Gentso wrote:On September 09 2011 14:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On September 09 2011 14:42 jimchoi11 wrote:
gomtv thinks they are smart but i have my ways to watching it for free bwhahahaha Quit ruining e-Sports. You've got it backwards... giving money to GomTV supports their company, and not so much eSports. I support quality free events like MLG by watching their ads. Paying money and providing more incentive for PPV tournaments is a step backwards. A step backwards? Are you implying that Esports would be better off if nobody paid for subscriptions for any tournaments? WOW can you stop trying to put words into my mouth? I'm implying esports would be better if everything had a free stream. I see MLG is doing just fine and expanding quite quickly with free stream/VODs. Furthermore, $5 isn't a lot but all of these things add up. Especially if you're paying for more than tournament. I want to support esports, but not by having to pay to watch in the first place. The worst thing about these things is that they don't help esports grow so much as they maintain status quo. I got my friends into Starcraft by showing them MLG while it was on. MLG is also doing "just fine" because they have a service in which people pay money. If nobody paid money for MLG passes, they would be in deep shit real quick. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly believe that paying money for a tournament is something that doesn't have a positive effect. Obviously. And they also have sponsors and advertisements. And again, did I say that paying money doesn't yield positive effect? No. If a tournament provides a free stream and you can afford and want to buy the HQ that's great. Personally, I choose to support by watching advertisements. By watching advertisements, you mean muting the stream and watching the other one right?
He doesn't even want to shell out money to see/support something he loves, what are the chances he'll buy the sponsor's product? If you are going to freeload, at least be quiet about it.
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On September 09 2011 15:26 Biane wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote:
With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch".
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up.
I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. What a way to make a statement, making a new TL account just to post and flame GOM. I'm cheap bastard who hasn't paid for any of the GSL vods at all, just watching the free SQ stream, but I don't go around making new accounts on a forum just to attempt to flame GOM for something they have the right to control. I'm not happy that this event isn't free but hey, I'm the one who isn't prepared to shell out money to watch my favorite players play. This is GOM's tournament, they run it, its their money, they decide what to do with it. I have a right to dislike how it will be run but being a dick isn't helping esports. Thanks for being the cancer of esports Suigentoo.
I respect you so much right now. Seriously, that's one of the most intelligent and honest posts I've ever seen.
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I'm missing maybe only 1 or 2 tickets to qualify for free for and some reason I was just about to go pay for those without realizing that this only costs 4.99 zzzzzz
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On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote:
So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What?
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me.
And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme.
Hahahahaha, well played sir.
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MMA, Losira, MVP, and July will win their groups.
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Finally a little reward for loyalty :D
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On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote:
So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What?
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me.
And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme.
They're obviously testing an idea. If this pans out, I'm pretty sure the SQ stream for normal GSL will stay, but they'll have space for special tournaments that charge.
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On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote:
So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What?
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me.
And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme.
The GSL has the best players in the world, and the best production values. They are adding another awesome tournament that fans can choose to buy for a measly $5 if they want to.
How is that not good? i'm definitely in. Gomtv does so much good, why not support them?
I bought a recent MLG and the Homestory cup also because they are providing great entertainment for a great price.
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On September 09 2011 15:23 Ruscour wrote:No free stream  this is seriously printing money for GOM, at least it's cheap
Yeah other than the production costs, opening the studios, paying casters, etc. etc. it's just like printing free money!
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On September 09 2011 15:30 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote:
So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What?
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me.
And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme. They're obviously testing an idea. If this pans out, I'm pretty sure the SQ stream for normal GSL will stay, but they'll have space for special tournaments that charge.
Unless I'm wrong, I think you missed the joke.
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I like the idea of a totally PPV tourney.
I like how GOM is using this to see how much they can get out of a tourney it is important that they find as many ways as possible to monetize their properties and make their model of an SC2 tournament sustainable for the foreseeable future.
Put the biggest names in SC2 in 1 tourney guarantee lots of hyped matches almost anyone in it can win it I'm excited.
I hope for the success of the tournament and future tournaments like it
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On September 09 2011 15:30 Rarak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote:
So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What?
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me.
And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme. The GSL has the best players in the world, and the best production values. They are adding another awesome tournament that fans can choose to buy for a measly $5 if they want to. How is that not good? i'm definitely in. Gomtv does so much good, why not support them? I bought a recent MLG and the Homestory cup also because they are providing great entertainment for a great price.
Top man. I hold subs for ESL, GSL and MLG not just so I can watch all their content at the highest quality, but also to help make sure they survive and continue to grow. :D
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Am I the only who thought this was going to be a new GOM League of Legends tournament?
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On September 09 2011 15:29 xhkz wrote:
I'm missing maybe only 1 or 2 tickets to qualify for free for and some reason I was just about to go pay for those without realizing that this only costs 4.99 zzzzzz
yeah
i'm missing 3/4 tickets, but either way, would be better if in the end of the year we got a fucking great event and some discont by porcen
like, all tickets = free
50% of tickets = 50% the price
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On September 09 2011 15:19 Suigentoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 15:10 thepeonwhocould wrote:On September 09 2011 15:04 Suigentoo wrote:
With-holding events just because I don't pay? What a joke. First they try and force their shitty propriety player on you and now they say "no pay, no watch".
Truly the cancer of "esports" and you morons just eat it up.
I understand I will get flamed and my post most likely nuked but this is the damn truth. Guess I'm just not important enough because I won't fork over all my money to GOM. Actually, paid content is something that is going to keep this industry alive. Basically sounds like you are just upset because you can't afford the price of a cheeseburger in order to watch a 10 hour++ tournament.. If it wasn't for GomTV, the entire korean scene as we know it probably wouldn't exist. Teams formed precicesley because of GomTV's SC2 tournaments... I'm perfectly fine with watching the dirt stream and I was perfectly happy to pay for gold membership to watch MLG because they don't force me to watch it on a crappy, Windows only propriety player. All they are doing is restricting viewership and essentially hurting ESPORTS. Ah, what's the point of arguing anyway, it's not like you'll see my logic with your blind fanboy-ism. Looks like I'll just be downloading the HD VODS from elsewhere as usual then
Well that just threw all your logic out the window, nevermind about blind fanboy-ism, talk about doing something that is actually hurting esports. Or maybe you don't seem to see this similar as to downloading music/movies, not that everyone on the internet is a goody-two-shoes who has ever done anything that is illegal.....have they? You even have the guts to proclaim it.
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On September 09 2011 15:27 seiferoth10 wrote:
So, it's the first ever tournament that has absolutely no free stream, and idiots are eating it up. What?
Isn't this going backwards? No free stream at all? Doesn't that alienate viewers who aren't committed enough to spend money to watch Starcraft? Seems ass backwards to me.
And, guess I'll be watching Dreamhack. I can't support this type of pricing scheme.
That's your choice and you'll be missing out on some hopefully amazing matches. We're not "idiots eating it up" we're fans and supporters of what GOM is doing in Korea. Combine this with their recent sponsorship of ESV.tv (formerly icCup) and I guess you could say it will balance everything out. Now the stakes in the ESV Monthly Final will be that much higher, and free (not to mention Orb is a great caster) for fans who only watch free events, meanwhile the Arena of Legends balances out the "new blood" of the ESV Monthlies and "Code B" by having a heated short-term tournament for the "Legends" of Starcraft 2.
I don't see why so many people are mad at GOM for charging for this event, when a) it's not even a large sum of money, and b) There's no way you WON'T get your moneys worth from this.
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Nestea is going to win this, blizzcon, and GSL Oct. and then will be officially crowned Bonjwa.
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On September 09 2011 15:33 Fionn wrote:
Am I the only who thought this was going to be a new GOM League of Legends tournament?
I thought of that too, especially since NASL did pick up HON.....
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