EPTOn September 08 2011 22:25 noddy wrote:
What a dumb comment. He rarely does 1/1/1 and he did the ghost rush twice.
What a dumb comment. He rarely does 1/1/1 and he did the ghost rush twice.
He won CPL basically playing only 1/1/1....
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
He won CPL basically playing only 1/1/1.... | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:22 poorcloud wrote: How? U mean mass marines with medivac? Thats not even viable anymore. If your talking about marine splitting, mvp did it way better and it probably was already on the ladder for a long while. Slayers pioneered the blue flame into marine tank play. MVP was the marine tank solid macro. Someone else did full mech. What did mkp pioneer exactly? 2 rax + scv all in? Before him I don't remember any Terran being able to put so much pressure on a Zerg early game with a 12/14 rax. Also he popularised the 1 rax expand. | ||
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nanoscorp
United States1237 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:21 Raygun wrote: Wasn't MKP taking a second base far earlier than most Terrans later on in opens? He still is, and it seems like a lot of people don't give him credit for it. VS Taeja he got his 2nd CC up earlier (1-rax CC) and had his 3rd on the gold before Taeja grabbed his 3rd. Going for the gold turned out to be a bad idea, as the CC got sniped while the massive marine armies were jockeying for position in the middle of the map. Still, in many games he goes for an early economic advantage. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:24 ForTheDr3am wrote: Tell Blizzard to do something maybe =p GOM can control the maps. They did it to help zergs earlier. Removing Kulas, Steppes, Delta etc. If they are really desperate they can do something as drastic as 3 gas geysers in the main or rich vespene geysers. That will help protoss a lot. But that also will be extremely dumb and short sighted. | ||
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scares
Germany239 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:23 Quintum_ wrote: Even if GOM was dissatisfied what would they do, bar anymore Ts from playing in code S. It is not there game to balance. The thing is even if they would now make Terran Underpowered, it would take a long time for the races to equal out. It can be quite hard to fall out of code S as some players are showing, by always staying in there, and its not only in the latest seasons, that there have been so many terrans, they are just performing even better now. But balancing it will not make the races equal after GSL October, it will take a long time until we see race equality in GSL for now. | ||
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scares
Germany239 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:26 snafoo wrote: He won CPL basically playing only 1/1/1.... no he won by being cheesed and opening 2rax select style nearly every game  | ||
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Raygun
348 Posts
Thanks, I remember him being one of the only Terrans that went for an early expand. Couldn't remember the specifics though. I think he's judged too harshly for showing people how to SCV all-in. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:27 Elthreann wrote: The thing is even if they would now make Terran Underpowered, it would take a long time for the races to equal out. It can be quite hard to fall out of code S as some players are showing, by always staying in there, and its not only in the latest seasons, that there have been so many terrans, they are just performing even better now. But balancing it will not make the races equal after GSL October, it will take a long time until we see race equality in GSL for now. I think if P was balanced we would see terrans drop from GSL left and right because they havent practiced the matchup properly. Also the brackets can be manipulated to expedite the speed at which this happens but, at the moment the tournament is already overclocked. | ||
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:20 wklbishop wrote: The whiners are also paying customers and viewers. When it reaches a point where there are barely any protoss in Code S, the paying customers no longer want to watch and GOM loses money which will probably put pressure on them to do something. What... I can't believe this post actually just happened.... You're blaming GOM for protoss being a weak race? Really?....... | ||
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Akhee
Brazil811 Posts
hahaha incontrol would punch you in the face til death | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:26 snafoo wrote: He won CPL basically playing only 1/1/1.... "basically" you must have a very broad understanding of 1/1/1. It's funny everytime MKP plays people like Ashe come and whine. | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:28 Raygun wrote: Thanks, I remember him being one of the only Terrans that went for an early expand. Couldn't remember the specifics though. I think he's judged too harshly for showing people how to SCV all-in. That was BitByBit. Maybe MKP was better at it though. | ||
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Phats
Australia534 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:29 Akhee wrote: hahaha incontrol would punch you in the face til death Not me right? The other guy? | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:26 Eufouria wrote: Before him I don't remember any Terran being able to put so much pressure on a Zerg early game with a 12/14 rax. Also he popularised the 1 rax expand. I grant you the 2 rax pressure. Even then, his play recently has been really off code S level play and that is why i don't think he deserves to be in code S. God did you watch his code A games this season? Playing T v Z without walling off, struggling with every match but somehow he manages to win. Only thing is that i suppose he will be found out soon and drop if he stays at this level of play. | ||
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quRax
Korea (South)264 Posts
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Navichi
49 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:23 Fionn wrote: He's never used in the GSTL. The coach never uses him in TvP situations. He's 0-2 this season versus Puma (before he ditched TSL) and DongRaeGu. Still think Prime needs to go find a new terran to teach their guys some mech. MKP needs more help than Optimus at the second, but both need to learn some sort of variation if they want a chance at a title. TOP/Optimus showed that Optimus can't depend on splendid micro/splitting/attacking to win a game and needs to learn different builds. Steal Byun. Try to buy Supernova. Anyone. Prime needs a new terran that doesn't like bio. You're wrong on all accounts. Polt doesn't get used the same reason NesTea doesn't, the coach thinks the players have what it takes to win and he wants to show them off. That's probably not the best choice to win GSTL, but that's not always the only goal. PuMa outclassed him with mech (which is to be expected), DRG did a baneling bust, you can't read much into those Bo1's. Prime doesn't need a Terran to teach them Mech lol. First of all Mech will be nerfed out of TvT with the new patch (and understandably because BFH are OP as shit in TvT) and second of all MKP and Polt are friends with the highest caliber of players. Mvp has practiced for months with MKP because they were the best Terrans at the time and Mvp helped Polt extensively to prepare for MMA. If they really wanted to learn mech they would just have to log into Bnet, many Terrans hate Mech and Bomber acknowledged that Mech is OP but he wants to make Bio work because it's more fun. | ||
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Akhee
Brazil811 Posts
yea yea I always do it T_T | ||
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bobwhiz
United States725 Posts
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jinixxx123
543 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:23 Fionn wrote: He's never used in the GSTL. The coach never uses him in TvP situations. He's 0-2 this season versus Puma (before he ditched TSL) and DongRaeGu. Still think Prime needs to go find a new terran to teach their guys some mech. MKP needs more help than Optimus at the second, but both need to learn some sort of variation if they want a chance at a title. TOP/Optimus showed that Optimus can't depend on splendid micro/splitting/attacking to win a game and needs to learn different builds. Steal Byun. Try to buy Supernova. Anyone. Prime needs a new terran that doesn't like bio. actually Polt went mech against MMA and thats how mma was knocked out of the GSL. Alot of the prime players know mech is better, but they hate that sytle and love to go bio ( bomber also has announced he hates mech and only going bio regardless if its an inferior strat) | ||
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