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On September 07 2011 20:41 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:33 dmnum wrote:On September 07 2011 20:32 rareh wrote:On September 07 2011 20:29 pAzand wrote:On September 07 2011 20:28 MrCon wrote:
If losira wins he's 3-1 and jjakji can be 3-1 too and he beat Losira, so jjakji will qualify. No. Check beat jjaki, Losira beat Check and jjaki beat Losira. 3 way tie  check didn't lose a game, so there is no 3 way tie. he said if losira wins, and the last losira's game is versus check But Check has defeated both losira and jjakji so he goes through and then the tie is between losira and jjakji. losira beat jjakji so hes through. Therefore if all are 3-1 losira and check will advance
Is this correct? I'm a little confused about whether it's a 3 way tie or this atm.
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On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match. Why isn't anyone saying this? It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix.. what the... So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden? Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah. What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?
Well for one he had absolutely 0 cannon coverage anywhere near his nat as a result of it so he had to run all his probes to his walls and his nexus were basically free kills. Compounded by the fact that everyone knows MC always goes Stargate and that deals terrible with lings in your base and Check really had completely free reign.
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I don't like the up/down format either. I can understand round robin in group stages to advance in the tournament, but for something that's essentially prelims to be this volatile? It's good entertainment value, but for something like staying in code S/making it into code S it shouldn't be like that.
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On September 07 2011 20:42 b0ngt0ss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:40 jjhchsc2 wrote:
lol if losira wins and jakji beats MC
jackji advances coz he beat losira? ha ha
what about check..
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The question is this. Will MC try if Losira wins?
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Optimism: It's exciting to see new players in Code S, as opposed to the same "set" repeated over and over, with some people just stuck in the system either through barely making it through their group (like that nub nestea, luckily he was pwned by MVP ro16 LOL nub) or "staying in code S" due to Gom's new generous rule.
+ Show Spoiler +Just kidding about nestea
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On September 07 2011 20:41 Omnipresent wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:37 blooblooblahblah wrote:On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match. Why isn't anyone saying this? It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix.. So FFE is apparantly too greedy now? It's fine if you have a small base and can get total vision to stop nydus, or if you can power out some sentries to keep yourself safe. Blocking a huge area like that and then going straight to stargate is pretty greedy. I don't know about you, but I pretty much saw how that game was going to end from the beginning.
I don't disagree with that. But the guy commenting on how little units he had out makes no sense at all. MC would've had the same amount of units if he did the same build more standard on a different map.
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On September 07 2011 20:41 Hopelessnoob wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:40 Gary Oak wrote:On September 07 2011 20:39 chocopaw wrote:
Just checked liquipedia. GSL October already has 17 terrans... I want to puke. More like Code T. well code A looks better...
smh next season is going to be rough code S is going to have lots of TvT code A is going to have to be watched muted (as always) ... entertainment value 
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On September 07 2011 20:39 qazadex wrote:
Is there anyway that MC can go to code S anymore?
Good news - yes, very easy one - going on MLG and winning it.
Bad news - Not for this season tho.
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On September 07 2011 20:44 marttorn wrote:Optimism: It's exciting to see new players in Code S, as opposed to the same "set" repeated over and over, with some people just stuck in the system either through barely making it through their group (like that nub nestea, luckily he was pwned by MVP ro16 LOL nub) or "staying in code S" due to Gom's new generous rule. + Show Spoiler +Just kidding about nestea
good thing i read that spoiler...or you woulda been "FLAME ON"
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On September 07 2011 20:40 jjhchsc2 wrote:
lol if losira wins and jakji beats MC
jackji advances coz he beat losira?
no becomes a 3 way tie for first as they are all 3-1 ?
so check will need a win to secure code S.
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On September 07 2011 20:43 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match. Why isn't anyone saying this? It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix.. what the... So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden? Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah. What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness? Not as much. But it has everything to do with riskiness. You have that forge and cannons next to your base, and you have 1 sentry. That Nydus play will never work.
That must be one hell of a sentry.
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If there is a god let there be a three way tie
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This is really funny.
Losira is kind of fucked here...
If he wins and Jjakji loses, he is in.
If he wins but Jjakji wins he is out.
If he loses and Jjakji loses, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Jjakji wins he is out.
MC.
If he wins and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he wins and Losira wins, he is out.
If he loses he is out.
Jjakji.
If he wins he is through.
If he loses and Check wins, he is in a three way tie.
If he loses and Losira wins he is out.
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On September 07 2011 20:42 JKira wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match. Why isn't anyone saying this? It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix.. Tell us what MC did that game that was so much greedier than a normal standard Forge FE into Stargate.
It's a very greedy opening in fact... Expand + tech + no core army without even trying to scout generally doesn't work.
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On September 07 2011 20:44 Mike15xp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:41 Hopelessnoob wrote:On September 07 2011 20:40 Gary Oak wrote:On September 07 2011 20:39 chocopaw wrote:
Just checked liquipedia. GSL October already has 17 terrans... I want to puke. More like Code T. well code A looks better... smh next season is going to be rough code S is going to have lots of TvT code A is going to have to be watched muted (as always) ... entertainment value
HALF of the terrans are returning codeA players..only 1 terran qualified in the prelims
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On September 07 2011 20:43 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match. Why isn't anyone saying this? It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix.. what the... So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden? Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah. What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness? Well for one he had absolutely 0 cannon coverage anywhere near his nat as a result of it so he had to run all his probes to his walls and his nexus were basically free kills. Compounded by the fact that everyone knows MC always goes Stargate and that deals terrible with lings in your base and Check really had completely free reign.
Fair enough, but honestly once mc saw no third with his scouting probe he should just have patrolled his stargate units and probes and he would have been fine, and that was his big mistake. The point of he wall off he did is -i think- to be safer vs run by's; while rush distance is super long, it's actually quite a wide choke to wall close to your nat.
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On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match. Why isn't anyone saying this? It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix.. what the... So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden? Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah. What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness?
This specific building placement guaranteed an easy 3rd, thats why it was greedy as fuck. Imagine if he built his wall and his natural. MC could have protected his cannons with probes and sentries.
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On September 07 2011 20:43 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:42 Teoita wrote:On September 07 2011 20:41 pdd wrote:On September 07 2011 20:39 sleepingdog wrote:On September 07 2011 20:35 Probe1 wrote:On September 07 2011 20:33 Alvis wrote:
MC deserves to lose because he is too greedy in an important match. Why isn't anyone saying this? It's not like Check had 1 supply roaches. He walled off at the choke of all of his bases, had like 2 gateway units out and a void ray/phoenix.. what the... So a standard forge FE is greedy all of a sudden? Standard? If building your forge ten miles away from your natural is standard then yeah. What the fuck does building placement have to do with greediness? Well for one he had absolutely 0 cannon coverage anywhere near his nat as a result of it so he had to run all his probes to his walls and his nexus were basically free kills. Compounded by the fact that everyone knows MC always goes Stargate and that deals terrible with lings in your base and Check really had completely free reign.
Seriously, he was only gonna have 1 cannon up when the nydus came up regardless of where it was. Check would've just ran all his lings up the ramp to kill the main nexus first instead, which would also have resulted in a win for him.
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On September 07 2011 20:41 Sc2Null wrote:
major edit: to confusing
Dude, you're gonna have to explain how the hell you manage to always be at the bottom of each page, because its amazing
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